Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SaraSmile]

I found another photo. It's hard to find one with an active link because it's an older style:

Vintage Nautica Jacket (S/BIG)

Please check measurements before purchase. #534 A little shorter length fit - 68cm Recommended Size S/BIG (Wider chest / A little shorter length and sleeves) Tag Size S Measurements Shoulder 53cm / Chest 61cm / Body Length 68cm / Sleeves 57cm Model - Condition Vintage fades / A minor stain on...

www.vintageland.co.nz

I like it but where are the iridescent strips on either side of the zipper? The images show an exposed zipper with this feature.

The jacket shown has a flap over zipper.

Close but not it.

JMO

 

[Aqua]

What a flipping circus. Moo

 

[VTHOMM]

I would be willing to entertain the "Nancy never made it home" scenario except that her garage door went up and then down at the exact time the family said they took her home. I guess they could have driven over and entered the house at that time but why?

To make it look like they took her home. However, I think they took her home. IDK

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I found another photo. It's hard to find one with an active link because it's an older style:

Vintage Nautica Jacket (S/BIG)

Please check measurements before purchase. #534 A little shorter length fit - 68cm Recommended Size S/BIG (Wider chest / A little shorter length and sleeves) Tag Size S Measurements Shoulder 53cm / Chest 61cm / Body Length 68cm / Sleeves 57cm Model - Condition Vintage fades / A minor stain on...

www.vintageland.co.nz

But the zipper is visible in the photos LE released. This one the zipper is NOT visible.

 

[Elley Mae]

New Nancy Guthrie Note, Sender Demands 1 Bitcoin for Info On Kidnapping Suspect

There's a new note in the Nancy Guthrie case, but this one doesn't seem to be from the kidnapper ... instead, it's from someone offering to give up information on the kidnapper.

www.tmz.com

 

[Monepone]

So in theory if a member of the G family paid today for a subscription they could potentially retrieve the last 60 days? I think this is FBI tip line worthy. Seriously.

ETA
Or maybe they already did and that's how the recent footage showed up. Still, worth a call JMO

I had a subscription to nest for 60 day cloud storage for over 3 years. Cancelled my subscription to nest for over 6 months. A neighbor had their house broken into. So I renewed my subscription. As soon as I re-subscribed 60 days of past feed showed back up automatically. My next door neighbor at the time was a police officer. They used the feed to apprehend the suspect. Caught his truck on my camera. I didn’t know at the time the past 60 days would be restored like that. And that was about 4 years ago. Not saying they still do this. My camera played out about 2 years ago and opted to install a better security camera system. I thought I read above it was a Ring camera and not Nest. Either way I’m sure if google has the ability to do that with nest. Amazon with Ring should have the same capability (IMO). What I’m not sure of is. I originally had the 60 day subscription. And that’s why it loaded the past 60 days. If I had had like a 30 day or less if it would have gone back to that instead of the 60 days. If that makes any sense at all. On the other hand I was great full I could help my neighbor although that wasn’t the reason for re-subscribing. Didn’t know at the time that would happen. Just a surprising added bonus. But was honestly weirded out by the fact it was still recording to the cloud after subscription was cancelled.

Good tip. I sure hope Google would have already turned over all the video they had instead of making the family jump through hoops and setup a subscription to get it. Seems like it would be illegal for them to withhold video if there was a court order for that data to be turned over.

 

[maskedwoman]

Are they somehow flying by CBP rules of being within 100 miles of the border not needing a warrant? Or whatever that legal caveat is?

I don't know about the CBP rules but there is also Exigent Circumstances, that allows immediate, no warrant entry if the police reasonably believe someone is in immediate danger of being harmed, evidence could be being destroyed, or a suspect is fleeing.

 

[shadowsc]

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I've been impressed with all your comments here.

I hope that we all can be better, including the news people who are responding to all of us wanting all of the details. But, what happened last night with the many news people interviewing the MIL and getting a lot of information was wrong. I know so many of us were horrified when BE interviewed the MIL, asked for her SIL's name and she said the full name plus many, many other things that she likely said in shock and likely didn't know were better not said. Their family will likely never be the same. MO

The CNN guy, sorry I forget his name, was talking to the person detained last night, and he asked the guy his name and the guy answered, and news guy sort of asked last name or if he wanted to give his last name, and the guy said, no, just first name. And news guy instantly dropped it. I am sure the full name would have been put out there by someone as soon as they figured it out, but a lot of real news journalists will just report on first name unless they receive the name from law enforcement. In this case, MIL said it herself because she wasn't thinking, and then that blasted it out. I don't think that's really the journalist's fault.

I also think MIL was in a no win situation. If she had avoided press, said "we're not talking" or "no comment" or asked for a lawyer, she would have been slammed and devoured for acting suspicious and like she had something to hide. As much as it sucks, her speaking unfiltered and in shock and not showing any indication of knowledge or guilt, I think the public will largely move on from them. The guy and his vehicle were also released very quickly, which I don't think it the norm. It is a traumatic situation to experience, but in terms of attention, I don't think this is going to follow him. He gave the most off the cuff responses possible. The reporter asked him what was going through his mind and he was like, "Oh God, I'm gonna get put away for life" or something along those lines. The media quickly lost interest in him.

 

[VioletBoxcar]

Just wondering what everyone is thinking about that jacket. Has anyone ever seen one like that before? It doesn't appear to be a current fashion from what I can see on Google. In fact, I haven't been able to track down one similar. However, I do recall seeing my Polish friend's husband wear something like this.

Maybe if we can help LE identify the jacket--and the jacket is on the rare side--but it will lead to identification when it was purchased?

It looks like a fleece jacket. The up close screen grab from the doorbell camera shows the fabric and slim cuff. I have several that look like that. To me it looks like a very common jacket style. Columbia, LL Bean, Cotopaxi make jackets like that. I’m in Tucson and see this style a lot.

Similar to this style of jacket

 

[Fargo]

Yes, I thought the jacket looked very retro 80s tracksuit, with iridescent strips along sides of zipper and shoulders( visible for night jogging).

Maybe Goodwill, so it couldn’t be researched, may not be available new today. FBI could look through eBay and some other resale sites, they sell old clothes. If found, search warrant, who they sold to.
JMO

Might not be a bad idea for LE to visit the Salvation Army Thrift Store around the corner from AG/TC's house.

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.

maps.app.goo.gl

 

[madprincess65]

From presser - says he believes she lives alone.
Couldn't walk 50 yards by herself.

IMO.

I wonder if she actually left the house at all. Could she be buried or hidden someone in her house or on her property

 

[Napoli]

Agreed.
Someone very familiar with Nancy's routines was involved in this.
I still do not think at this time it was someone employed by Nancy ?
Jmo.

I think it was a celebrity stalker. If, SG had an unknown stalker, he would be well versed on SG and the family. Most elderly people are home at 1-2 AM. He may even have been watching NG for awhile, saw she went out and came home that evening and decided to abduct her. There is NO QUESTION she was abducted. That guy was not there to trick or treat and NG is gone. It's very simple really. She was home until she wasnt and an armed and disguised person was seen at her door. MOO

 

[EyeCandy]

You're definitely right that these battery-powered wifi cameras will detect stuff even when they are off of their mounts, as long as they're still in wifi range.

However, the problem I have with this theory is that LE have a very specific "disconnected" time for the doorbell camera, and have had that time for a week now (it was on the sheriff timeline in the Thursday press conference, at least). While we've been assuming that when they said "disconnected" they meant that it shut off, was destroyed, or was otherwise disconnected from the network (in which case it would not have been continuing to detect motion and sending alerts), they theoretically could have meant it was physically disconnected from the wall. But the only way I can see them knowing that is if they had pictures or video of it being disconnected from the wall, and they didn't get pictures until this week. Without pictures, they'd know it was removed (because it was obviously gone), but they would not know what time.

Because they didn't have pictures at the time they provided the timestamp of disconnection, IMO the only reasonable explanation is that that's the time the camera disconnected from the network, and it could not have continued detecting after that (ok, it could have reconnected but I feel like they would have mentioned that). So I think the most straightforward conclusion is that the detection was from a different camera. We already know from other statements and from pictures on the scene that there were other cameras; we just don't know what, if anything, the other cameras detected, and which triggered this supposed later notification.

JMO — there's obviously still a ton we don't actually know here, so we're all guessing.

and I am not sure if my notifications will show when I removed the camera to bring it in to charge it. I will look when it's charged all the way up...both on the app and my notifications.

 

[LRinCA]

I like it but where are the iridescent strips on either side of the zipper? The images show an exposed zipper with this feature.

The jacket shown has a flap over zipper.

Close but not it.

JMO

I found another Nautica that was closer and posted it (less additional "decoration"), but I'm too weary to retrace my steps to find it again. I do have the screenshot, but not the accompanying link.

The way I found these jackets was by taking one of the photos of the perpetrator and doing a very specific Google image search on the jacket alone.

 

[SMK777]

I still do not think at this time it was someone employed by Nancy ?
Jmo.

Just curious: why not?

 

[madprincess65]

Is it true it's a gated community?

Manned gate?

How would someone drive her out?

Smuggled out in a vehicle that had reason to be there? Delivery vehicle for instance...

Why her?

Someone obsessed with Savannah but couldn't get access to her?

Kidnapping for ransom seems almost hopeful... because at least she's still alive in the scenario... but where's the ransom request?

Botched abduction?

JMO

Maybe she didn't leave at all. Maybe someone buried her or has hidden her in the home or on her property

 

[PCHS]

To make it look like they took her home. However, I think they took her home. IDK

Yes I think the 'they never took her home theory esp given the new doorbell camera footage is looking to be more and more unlikely and the steps for them to do a cover up seem, to me, to be contrived. For their sakes I wish LE would provide something more definitive in a statement b/c if they really had nothing to do with this, which imo it seems more likely they didn't have involvement, then they don't deserve to have their reputations damaged like this. JMO

 

[DizzyB]

Amazon has been known to deliver at some strange times.

Totally. I heard a car racing down my block at 4am, it screeched to a halt sideways in the middle of the street with its headlights shining into my windows. Guy hopped out and was striding across the lawn to my door. I thought it was a home invasion. I realized it was Amazon only when I heard the package get tossed on my porch and he turned around.

 

[smileyface516]

If LE had enough info on C (who did not live near either AG or NG) to detain him, why were LE searching the brush near AG's home just a couple hours before that?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021335265940472165

 

[jtfolden]

You're definitely right that these battery-powered wifi cameras will detect stuff even when they are off of their mounts, as long as they're still in wifi range.

However, the problem I have with this theory is that LE have a very specific "disconnected" time for the doorbell camera, and have had that time for a week now (it was on the sheriff timeline in the Thursday press conference, at least). While we've been assuming that when they said "disconnected" they meant that it shut off, was destroyed, or was otherwise disconnected from the network (in which case it would not have been continuing to detect motion and sending alerts), they theoretically could have meant it was physically disconnected from the wall. But the only way I can see them knowing that is if they had pictures or video of it being disconnected from the wall, and they didn't get pictures until this week. Without pictures, they'd know it was removed (because it was obviously gone), but they would not know what time.

Because they didn't have pictures at the time they provided the timestamp of disconnection, IMO the only reasonable explanation is that that's the time the camera disconnected from the network, and it could not have continued detecting after that (ok, it could have reconnected but I feel like they would have mentioned that). So I think the most straightforward conclusion is that the detection was from a different camera. We already know from other statements and from pictures on the scene that there were other cameras; we just don't know what, if anything, the other cameras detected, and which triggered this supposed later notification.

JMO — there's obviously still a ton we don't actually know here, so we're all guessing.

I thought it was established that the doorbell camera was disconnected from the network and that it was a different camera that later registered movement.

However, my doorbell does indeed have the ability to alert if it is removed from its mount. It can even be set to play loud alarm if it’s tampered with in that manner.

I don’t think that’s what happened here though. I think it’s two different cameras.