AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[MorningDove]

Somebody mentioned a wheelchair upthread somewhere. It sparked a thought I had upon seeing first images of NG home. Toward the right side of the driveway it looks like tracks from a wheel chair or cart of some type to me. I think it was in a couple images that a drone took but have not been able to find them. Jmo
Edit to add the drone photos showed a clearer view that appeared to go right to the steps iirc.

 

[allboys]

I think this is a thread that no one can keep up with, so please forgive me if any or all of this has been posted previously:

1. The eyebrows. I don’t believe they are as thin as they appear. There’s a light colored outline (stitching) around the eye cut outs of the mask that gives the illusion that that is where the top of the eye brows end. I believe the tops of the eyebrows are covered by the mask.

2. Has anyone posted about the partial view of the tattoo that was visible to the camera? From the news report I saw last night of the partial tattoo (of what the interviewee believes is a tattoo), it did seem that Carlos’s tattoo could be a visual match, so I’m wondering if that factored into him being tipped. He kept rubbing his arms during the interview. Are we thinking that was because of his arms being irritated by handcuffs?

3. Interesting that LE is no longer specifying the more specific times of the camera captures. I wonder if there is question that the time stamps may not be accurate for whatever reason.

4. I don’t understand if what Carlos said is true, that he wasn’t asked ANY questions. That makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for what he and his family went through. I would have thought it would have been an extremely strong lead for him to be detained and his home to have been searched. One more confusing piece to this puzzle.

Thoughts on any of this? If all of this has been discussed, please feel to scroll and roll.

 

[Luna20]

Does anyone else

I noticed the "bulk" too. And I can't stop thinking the eyes are a woman's.

If you look closely at his eyes and mask you can see that the mask covers most of the eyebrows. That is what is making his eyebrows look so thin. Plus the mask has a tiny white border that goes right up to the eye.

 

[PCHS]

To me this looks like they are following all avenues of investigation simultaneously.

When they start to get a solid trail to follow you will see convergence.

They are spending an awful lot of time in an around AG's home however. If familial involvement had been proven to be off the table... well, they have better things they could be doing. This tells me they haven't been able to do that yet.

IMO I am starting to feel like like LE keep familial involvement on the table b/c they are more lost then anything on what else to follow up on and typically one would go back to family or last seen. JMO but if this is correct, I think it is really awful. Again JMO

 

[justme11]

Do we have any official or mainstream sources saying that this person has been determined to be not connected to the case?

Which person are you referring to?

 

[SMK777]

The musical artist Prince would appear the same way.Maybe not common?

I thought of Prince, too.

 

[allboys]

I would be willing to entertain the "Nancy never made it home" scenario except that her garage door went up and then down at the exact time the family said they took her home. I guess they could have driven over and entered the house at that time but why?

And how would that be able to explain the blood splatter on the front porch?

 

[mom2tee]

Just my .02 but it DOES seem like there were not community wide searches that you often see in cases like this. I think about all the prior missing person cases where the community rallied and literally helped with searches (in neighborhood, public spaces, etc.). That seems absent to me here (unless I missed something). Is that because LE didn't feel like that would be fruitful? They knew something else? I just find that odd.

 

[Chimera]

I think he delivered something to that house recently. That is all. There were probably other deliveries so I would think they are checking on all of them. FedEx,UPS, DoorDash, Prime etc will have that info.

Yes that's possible.
Although he was delivering DoorDash when pulled over so I doubt it would be that, as he's over an hour from Nancy's ?
But at least LE investigated and cleared him so he's good.
Imo.

 

[Hopefulcat]

I don’t find it strange at all. She’s an independent woman, not a child or an invalid who needs supervision.

“Ten minutes away” is 20 min round trip for someone picking her up, plus time to stop what one is doing, get ready, etc. and perhaps she was just being considerate of their time.

We don’t know what other tasks and responsibilities AG and TC have on weekends - maybe a child’s activities, errands, DIY - and even a lost 45 minutes on a Saturday afternoon can eat into a working person’s precious weekend. Why NOT take a quick Uber instead?

Second this. Keep hearing how strange this is and its common place in our family. My mom lives ten minutes away and often ubers to my house to save me the 20 minute round trip drive as a busy mom. Then later in the day when she is ready to go home my husband usually drives her. Nothing weird about a son in law who has been part of the family for years to drive their MIL home.

 

[Van Helsing]

Somebody mentioned a wheelchair upthread somewhere. It sparked a thought I had upon seeing first images of NG home. Toward the right side of the driveway it looks like tracks from a wheel chair or cart of some type to me. I think it was in a couple images that a drone took but have not been able to find them. Jmo

Good catch!

 

[PCHS]

And how would that be able to explain the blood splatter on the front porch?

Exactly I think the idea that she never made it home is less than likely at this point given the info we have...imo

 

[Aqua]

Somebody mentioned a wheelchair upthread somewhere. It sparked a thought I had upon seeing first images of NG home. Toward the right side of the driveway it looks like tracks from a wheel chair or cart of some type to me. I think it was in a couple images that a drone took but have not been able to find them. Jmo

There is no wheel chair. NG uses a cane only.

 

[PCHS]

Second this. Keep hearing how strange this is and its common place in our family. My mom lives ten minutes away and often ubers to my house to save me the 20 minute round trip drive as a busy mom. Then later in the day when she is ready to go home my husband usually drives her. Nothing weird about a son in law who has been part of the family for years to drive their MIL home.

Yes there is absolutely nothing weird about this practice.

 

[iamshadow21]

Somebody mentioned a wheelchair upthread somewhere. It sparked a thought I had upon seeing first images of NG home. Toward the right side of the driveway it looks like tracks from a wheel chair or cart of some type to me. I think it was in a couple images that a drone took but have not been able to find them. Jmo

That looks like a single tyre tread from a car to me. The scale is all wrong for it to be a wheelchair, which would have two large but thin wheels plus two casters at the front. And those grooves would be DEEP. No one pushes or wheels a wheelchair through gravel unless they have to. Or sand, or grass. It's a nightmare, very heavy going, and it digs right in the surface.

Source: partner is an ambulatory wheelchair user.

MOO

 

[Lamima]

If NG had and app on her phone to open garage, it could be done from anywhere...opened and then closed and she may never have actually been at home walking through that garage door. Since they know exact times it opened and closed, I think she had the app.

 

[allboys]

I had heard someone say on a YT livestream yesterday that the car of the person detained was a Nissan. It was an SUV, so I'm assuming something like a Nissan Rogue or similar.

It was stated as a Nissan Murano. That stuck in my memory because I used to have one.

 

[Napoli]

But why? Why take an 84 yr old woman? Why?

For attention from SG. To insert himself into the family..CRAZY people do crazy things. I also believe ransom was real. A way to gain attention and have SG twist and beg. Power and control. "SG, you never answered my instagram posts..you ignored me. NOW, I am making you acknowledge me." Think like a wacko, everyone.. and my theory will be plausible. JMO and BTW. I dont know what a sophisticated kidnaping looks like but he has managed to avoid apprehension for 10 days. Clearly, he had most of his ducks in a row. OCD type personality with rejection/ abandonment issues and need for acknowledgement from his fantasy girlfriend SG. JMO Think JODI FOSTER AND HINKLEY type nutty. MOO

 

[SaraSmile]

I don't know about the CBP rules but there is also Exigent Circumstances, that allows immediate, no warrant entry if the police reasonably believe someone is in immediate danger of being harmed, evidence could be being destroyed, or a suspect is fleeing.

That’s a great thought! I bet they do have some extra rights to stop someone to interview, detain.

At the border, of course, sometimes they stop cars for “ secondary screening”, this can take 20 min to hours if they take vehicle apart. No warrant, just they “ thought” there “ might” be something hidden. Perfectly legal.

In CA, there are CBP checkpoints about 20-30 miles N of the border, so I know CBP has “ rights “ to search that far away.

Good question how far N the CBP “ rights” go?

JMO

 

[SlimPickens]

Feeling fairly dejected today after yesterday, but back to the video. I hope this isn't misconstrued as a race assumption or stereotype because that is certainly not my intention - the gait and movements of the man in the video don't align with my (primarily anecdotal) observations of and interactions with (especially first or second generation immigrant) central American Latino working-class men. My experiences have been that since their upper torsos tend to be equal to or greater than their lower torso (or their oft-stocky builds often give the illusion of such), that they appear more "jerky" (lack of a better word) in their movements, with a bit more 'side to side' sway in their gaits. Their typical build, to me at least, also gives the impression that they are shorter than they often are. The man in the video seems taller, more relaxed and confident in terms of gait and general movement, proportion appears skewed to his legs (shorter upper torso), and gives a more upper-middle class Caucasian/Middle Eastern/Mediterranean vibe to me, whether American or not. Perhaps even has a military or law enforcement background.

As always, could be wrong on this, but those were my initial impressions of the video. I suppose I will stick to them unless or until further information changes it.

JMO.