AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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With regards to the cameras, it's weird. The suspect walks up to the house hunched over, deliberately hiding his face, indicating he knows a camera is present.
He’s not “deliberately hiding his face”. He’s looking down to see where the step is so he doesn’t trip over it. That’s why the flashlight is briefly switched on.
 
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What about her zimmerframe? I’m not sure if you use this word in the US but it’s one of these:
Can you cite a source for assertions that she uses a walker?
 
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Agreed but I have been unable to find the exact style. LOL My first inclination was to go to LL Bean.

So around the cuffs---is that a different color on the inside cuff, like a sherpa fleece ?
Something like this, perhaps.
 

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With regards to the cameras, it's weird. The suspect walks up to the house hunched over, deliberately hiding his face, indicating he knows a camera is present. However he then straightens up, looks directly at it, thinks "oh, 🤬🤬🤬🤬" and realizes he's potentially being recorded, after which he grabs the brush to cover the lense. So on one hand, he's prepared but on the other, he isn't.

None of this makes sense.
I think it is because he thought he disabled it by disabling the Internet and then when he walked up to it he saw the light that comes on when it detects motion.
 
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New topic. Has anyone heard any leads on suspect's outfit? Has any sleuthing been done on jacket he was wearing to match brand, company? Anyone done an image search on jacket?
There have been a few posted, but none with an exact match.
 
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My mom has several outdoor security cameras, none of which are Nest or Ring cameras. She says that whenever she has looked at the recordings and she’s in the frame of the camera she appears to be moving much slower than in real-time….sort of a delay. Is there a similar delay with Nest cameras and this could account for the suspect moving slow or unconcerned with being discovered?
 
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Snipped for focus - I saw the photos and watched the video of "Lantana Guy" - they looked to me to be completely covered with clothing/mask/gloves - where do you see a "partial tattoo" that was visible to the camera??? TIA
I only watched CNN last night and it was an interviewed expert who showed a picture of what appeared to be a partial tatoo. I wish I had taken a picture of the tv screen, but I assumed this was going to be widely mentioned beyond this one expert’s remark. The image the news showed was much more detailed than the only one I can find online now. You’ll just have to take my word for it. I’m a long time WS member and I would never comment on a news report if it didn’t happen. There was a part of Carlos’s tattoo that looked very similar to the image they showed on the news last night. I sure wish I could provide a link. The photo I’m providing is not from a MSM source, but all I could find.

I will keep trying to find a link to the interview, but many experts weighed in last night on CNN’s live broadcast.

Edited to add I am going to delete my post, as I don’t think this was good information that was reported.
 

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What led them to C last night? Have they said?
I believe FOX News said it was a tip from someone claiming his eyes look like the guy on video and his van.
 
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Something like this, perhaps.
Suspect's jacket: It has a horizontal stripe and no logo. Very generic. Also the zipper looked kind of wide to me.
 
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Only reference I’ve seen or heard is cane. Photos on her FB and Today she has a thin wooden cane.

Moo
Law would know if she had a wheelchair etc., so it really doesn't help to speculate that. I am wondering if there was one person going thru the front, and one thru the back and together took her w/them.
 
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People who are discouraged about the competency of the investigators based on last night's catch-and-release:

Remember, in most investigations, police bring in POIs for questioning and follow up on tips all the time. 99% of them end up being worthless and the general public never finds out about them unless the full case file is released some day in the future (e.g. discovery for a trial).

This case is different because there is CONSTANT media scrutiny that, IMO, is unhelpful and unnecessary. Police did not release the info about the 'subject' detained until nearly every news station was reporting it already based on their 'anonymous sources'. I doubt police even wanted to publicize this guy's detainment but were probably forced to after it leaked. Hopefully police have already questioned MANY others that the media (thankfully) didn't catch onto.

Don't assume what you see on the news is all that's going on.
I'm not just basing it on this guy's detainment it is a myriad of factors that are putting together a picture based on what we can see that presents as though they are lost..again they could be keeping something really close to the vest but they keep repeating the same searches over/over finding things like cameras they missed, it took 10 days they said to get those images from Google, and then they just now pick up a door dash guy based on info it seems they should have had earlier to question him about...
 
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This just makes me wonder:
When the crime occurred, was there really the time or means to hide her, or weapons, on neighbors' property? Wouldn't they have feared detection? What do you think, @MassGuy?
No. I think entry was made, she was taken, and off they went in a vehicle. This just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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New topic. Has anyone heard any leads on suspect's outfit? Has any sleuthing been done on jacket he was wearing to match brand, company? Anyone done an image search on jacket?
Haven't heard, but hoping FBI is using all their technology to investigate these items.
 
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New topic. Has anyone heard any leads on suspect's outfit? Has any sleuthing been done on jacket he was wearing to match brand, company? Anyone done an image search on jacket?
Yes, several pages back.
 
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No. I think entry was made, she was taken, and off they went in a vehicle. This just doesn't make sense to me.
Agreed. Thank you!
 
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I hate thinking it too, but I think you're right. There's a reason LE keeps searching around both residences/neighborhoods over and over. They seem to think she's nearby and so do I. IMO
I haven’t seen any reports of them bringing dogs back in. If they haven’t, maybe they should.
 
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I think it is because he thought he disabled it by disabling the Internet and then when he walked up to it he saw the light that comes on when it detects motion.
That's possible..
 
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Id want to know if the neighborhood had recent burglaries previously.


Retired FBI agent Lee Fabrizio said the gloves look like the Neoprene gloves commonly worn by restaurant workers and people working in agriculture. He also noted that the person’s actions, including pulling vegetation from a plant at the entryway arch and walking up to the Nest camera at the doorway, showed it wasn’t planned.

“If I was planning to kidnap somebody I would make sure I wasn’t coming up on that camera at all,” said Fabrizio, who spent 27 years with the agency, including as lead investigator of Timothy McVeigh’s Kingman associates following the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. “It seems to me it might be a burglary gone wrong.”


2/11/2026

“Kidnappings for ransom are very unusual in the United States and we don’t have a lot of other cases to compare it to,” said Schweit. “But if we look at the facts and circumstances of this case and look at it from the more broad perspective of an investigation, if somebody engaged in kidnapping Miss Guthrie, why is that individual not doing a better job of getting their money and getting her back to us?
Kidnappings for ransom might be unusual or handled quickly, more privately and never make MSM. WHY? Copy cat abductions escalate. IF the ransom request was from perp, they were made through a bitcoin account. RANSOM WAS NOT PAID. What better job could the perp do? Set up a go fund me page? Request for ransom was made and wasnt paid. JMO
 

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