AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Suspect's jacket: It has a horizontal stripe and no logo. Very generic. Also the zipper looked kind of wide to me.
The horizontal stripe is likely the cheststrap of the backpack
 
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Only reference I’ve seen or heard is cane. Photos on her FB and Today she has a thin wooden cane.

ETA…we call that a walker in the US

Moo

No, this is walker in US.

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I only watched CNN last night and it was an interviewed expert who showed a picture of what appeared to be a partial tatoo. I wish I had taken a picture of the tv screen, but I assumed this was going to be widely mentioned beyond this one expert’s remark. The image the news showed was much more detailed than the only one I can find online now. You’ll just have to take my word for it. I’m a long time WS member and I would never comment on a news report if it didn’t happen. There was a part of Carlos’s tattoo that looked very similar to the image they showed on the news last night. I sure wish I could provide a link. The photo I’m providing is not from a MSM source, but all I could find.

I will keep trying to find a link to the interview, but many experts weighed in last night on CNN’s live broadcast.
Can you post a full image so we have some reference to what we're looking at. Not knowing what body part I'm looking at, that could be a watch band as far as I can tell.
 
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I thought he was saying the email address was attached to the Bitcoin & it had been verified. I honestly don't know how Bitcoins work, so maybe I misunderstood.
Too bad they wouldn’t come forward with the information and collect the $50,000 reward offered by the FBI instead of trying to get Bitcoin
 
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Something like this, perhaps.
I think the one he has on is old navy or something similar. I’ve owned those with reflector strips before.
 
  • #21,887
No. I think entry was made, she was taken, and off they went in a vehicle. This just doesn't make sense to me.
Mass Guy---give us your insights...random or targeted. What are your thoughts on the ransom. Opportunistic or real perp?
 
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I hate thinking it too, but I think you're right. There's a reason LE keeps searching around both residences/neighborhoods over and over. They seem to think she's nearby and so do I. IMO
I don't know. The likelihood of someone burying a body "nearby" seems to be a bit of a stretch. How does someone do that in the dead of night without being detected? I would venture to guess at night out there, one can hear a pin drop. It strikes me as a very quiet neighborhood. We all know the sound of a shovel as it pierces the ground when someone is digging a hole. Couple that with the sandy terrain which would likely produce a noticeable ringing sound. You know, the metal shovel against the sand, which is basically just a bunch of tiny stones. Besides, we've heard that the ground is just too dense. It would take someone a good long while to dig a hole big enough to bury a body. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼 IMO
 
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I think it is because he thought he disabled it by disabling the Internet and then when he walked up to it he saw the light that comes on when it detects motion.
Has something been stated that the internet was disabled?
 
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Has there been a clear match for the backpack? It appears to me to be reasonably new. Haven't heard much about it though.
I am guess all his gear is brand new to avoid any DNA shedding. If we could id the mask, backpack, jacket that could be a start!
 
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I haven’t seen any reports of them bringing dogs back in. If they haven’t, maybe they should.
Did they ever? I mean that would have been reasonable to do initially imo if you are searching septic tanks bank yards etc.
 
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Blood on the porch only proves she was at the house at some point. It doesn’t prove she ‘made it home’ in the sense of being safely dropped off and left there. That’s a big assumption to jump to.
Ita.
It's crazy and sad that it seems we're no further forward in this case.
Omo.
 
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I think the one he has on is old navy or something similar. I’ve owned those with reflector strips before.
IDK. I've checked Addidas, Nike, Patagonia, LL Bean, FILA, even put vintage in my search and haven't been able to come up with that exact one.
 
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I haven’t seen any reports of them bringing dogs back in. If they haven’t, maybe they should.
Burying her in that terrain would take hours. Dogs have already been there a few times and did not find anything. IMO, they are simply looking for things the kidnapped may have dropped like the door camera that was removed.
 
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The tracks just stuck out to me as odd. The wheelchair comment is what sparked me to recall these tracks. Maybe there was a cart of some sort to get her to the road where the vehicle may have been. jmo
Wheels on her trash cans ?
 
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you guys, I don't think it matters if they used something with wheels to remove Nancy.

but:

maybe 1 or 2 other perps were in the house and waiting for drugs to affect Nancy. the guy at the door has a tarp and stuff in his back pack.. they let him in and while they are removing Nancy they hit her head on the side of the door..and carried her to a vehicle.

if they did this there has to be a vehicle in order to remove her.

if no vehicle then she may be on the property this whole time. the perp or perps walked home. mOO
 
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No, this is walker in US.

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That's nearly the same thing as the post they were replying to. A Zimmerman is essentially a walker. And AFAIK, there has been no information to support NG actually using or owning one.
 
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I only watched CNN last night and it was an interviewed expert who showed a picture of what appeared to be a partial tatoo. I wish I had taken a picture of the tv screen, but I assumed this was going to be widely mentioned beyond this one expert’s remark. The image the news showed was much more detailed than the only one I can find online now. You’ll just have to take my word for it. I’m a long time WS member and I would never comment on a news report if it didn’t happen. There was a part of Carlos’s tattoo that looked very similar to the image they showed on the news last night. I sure wish I could provide a link. The photo I’m providing is not from a MSM source, but all I could find.

I will keep trying to find a link to the interview, but many experts weighed in last night on CNN’s live broadcast.
His bulky gloves look like they go up further than his wrists
 
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Too bad they wouldn’t come forward with the information and collect the $50,000 reward offered by the FBI instead of trying to get Bitcoin
I suspect it is because the reward would only be distributed to them if their tip turned out to be accurate. This way someone can get the coin first and THEN divulge their alleged info on the perp.

MOO this newest missive to TMZ is from someone without any knowledge of this case and is simply opportunistically attempting to profit from it without having any real information to provide in return.
 
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