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It was reported here at WS a couple hundred posts back that she attended virtual church services at SG's church in NY. A group of local friends would get together to watch at one person's house. One of this group was supposed to pick NG up to attend this group viewing. I will look for the OP.

ETA: link to original post AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026
Yes, she did not go to a physical church building. With a group of friends. They watched an online mass via the Internet.
 
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It does seem strange that many of their lights are on at such a late hour. The lights stand out.
Why is that strange? 1.) some people keep an outside light(s) on all night… not just motion lights. 2.) some people are night owls. 3.) it was a Saturday night, perhaps they were entertaining.
 
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When did we find out about more blood?
Someone on twitter posted a video walking around. I wasn’t sure if it wasn’t posted if we are allowed.
 
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There has been some discussion on the time stamp today. Apparently Kash Patel has narrowed the video the the 2-amish point (anyone have a link pls?) so the larger time window has also been narrowed down. Strange they never gave a timestamp or just announced the time up front but it seems they didn't know exactly so maybe a corruption on the server they dug deep to get to (remember that was mentioned in the initial press release).
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash
 
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I am curious as to why they would luminol AG's property, but not NG's property (as far as we know, though media would have seen the blue lights and flashing)
Just in case, who knows if the perp's own blood could be in the house along with NG's. Long shot but he could have had a minor injury himself if NG fought back or hit him with an object.
 
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Yes, as I said. She attended Online Mass via the internet. Not going to a physical church building, with the altar and priest and congregants.
Yes, but a neighbor/friend was supposed to pick her up to bring her to that "group" viewing. And when she didn't answer the door, the neighbor/friend called her family. I'm sorry, I thought that's what you were questioning.
 
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Hopefully we don’t get into in depth discussions about a white poodle in a coat before some major break in this case.🙏
 
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Just wrote something similar.. I agree. For example, have they searched the other sibling's house like this? MOO
Other sibling lives in Vermont.
 
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I wish we knew what exactly is leading them towards AG or SIL. So, so much time spent searching and photographing her house and her neighborhood. Maybe they’re just trying to cover all their bases, but it still seems like so much? Is this level of scrutiny and searching standard? Hours spent every day 😕

I hope they’re not involved, so I hope it is just standard…
It IS interesting and more interesting that they keep popping up in recent searches but the media glosses over why. Harvey Levin was on Fox this morning discussing the new tip email he received and this came up. So he said quiet part out loud--about the rumors of AG and TC online.

Then there is the fact that they were the last ones with her, and it was the last place she left, TC dropped her off, etc. etc. Maybe they even knew or recommended some of the workers that worked on NG's house and were DNA-swabbed.

But yeah, the neighborhood and brush searches around AG's have not been adequately explained to the public IMO.
 
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Someone on twitter posted a video walking around. I wasn’t sure if it wasn’t posted if we are allowed.

If it’s the Fox News video they held back on releasing that was posted pages and pages back. That was allowed I believe.
 
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Just got off the phone with the FBI...here is a Nancy Guthrie status update as of Weds afternoon:

-Despite Bitcoin deadlines passing days ago in original ransom note, it has not been ruled in or out as legitimate and still part of overall investigation

-They are still operating off Kash Patel's latest statement that there are "persons of interest" aka more than one

-They are following up on "tons of leads"

-will not comment on Carlos Palazuelos detainment/release





Here is the full text of the above for anyone who does not have X/Twitter:

Just got off the phone with the FBI...here is a Nancy Guthrie status update as of Weds afternoon:

-Despite Bitcoin deadlines passing days ago in original ransom note, it has not been ruled in or out as legitimate and still part of overall investigation

-They are still operating off Kash Patel's latest statement that there are "persons of interest" aka more than one

-They are following up on "tons of leads"

-will not comment on Carlos Palazuelos detainment/release
 
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so many vehicles at that residence across the street. Was it being remodeled, etc
Perhaps they were having party, or had out-of-town guests staying over???
 
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Does anybody know roughly when Nancy's bedtime usually was?

It was said she might have been asleep at 2am with her hearing aids out. Could she have been watching TV at this time?
 
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Why would the Perp have driven to AG's neighborhood to toss evidence? That makes absolutely zero sense to me.

I would expect that to be done in the vicinity of NG house or major roads leading away from the crime, but not in the residential neighborhood of the victims family. So odd
-Perhaps someone has an ax to grind against AG/SIL?
-Or perps can see that SIL is a suspect and wants to add fuel to that fire in order to distract LE?

-For whatever reason it is very risky for the perp to travel to the scene of the crime.
-Or perhaps they live in the area?
 
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Sorry if this has been posted before and sad to write this. I think the SIL is involved. I think she was taken and killed and hidden in.the desert. Why not in.the house? So the house would not be a murder/crime scene. Perhaps done for an early inheritance. MOO of course any thoughts?
The inheritance without a body would take years in AZ. MOO
 
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Honestly, that should probably tell you that there was more to it than the person’s speculation about being tipped in because of his eyes…
When a SWAT team is deployed like yesterday, that's a really big deal.
 
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It's insane that Pima County Sheriff’s Department says they’ve received more than 4,000 calls to tip lines and they decide to target some random guy in Rio Rico that was called in because he had similar eyes?? WTF. Doesn't give much confidence in these Fed agents so far...

They did not target this man b/c of his eyes. IMO

Maybe just think a little about how ridiculous it is to say that. They had a warrant and investigated a tip. Then questioned and released a poi. Nothing to do with his eyes. IMO
 
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