AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[su5ie]

From what I’ve heard experts say is if an image were attached to the emailed ransom notes, that’s supplying “extra” digital information, which is more easily trtraced

Polaroid cameras have been used in the snuff film industry for decades and also in multiple kidnappings

They also don't require the chemicals or darkroom need for developing camera roll photos which are identifiable and fully traceable

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

It will disconnect, generally speaking, within 10-33ft or so depending on the environment (walls, etc).

Excellent article in NYT about pacemakers as related to NG's case.

Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Shows Limits of Tracking Pacemakers in Police Work

The heart devices do not track location, nor do they transmit across large distances.

www.nytimes.com

 

[LAhiker]

Or there was a ruse to get her to open the door. "I'm law enforcement, there is a dangerous suspect on the lose around here" "I'm from the utility company. There is a dangerous gas leak, we need to turn off your gas". Something like that.....

While a ruse might've been used, I'm not convinced that she opened the door. I also can't imagine her believing any ruse attempted by the masked and gloved man. I guess an accomplice dressed in a more conventional fashion might've tried such a thing once the doorbell camera was disabled.

My feeling is still that someone probably broke into the back of the house and then later took NG out of the front, probably to a waiting car.

JMO

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

Thank you. So it doesn’t have to do with time? Like he was in those for 40 minutes because the pacemaker disconnected? He could have just walked 30 feet away from her bedroom.

Perp could have turned Bluetooth off, Nancy could have accidentally turned it off, it could have randomly dropped connection for unknown reasons. The disconnect doesn’t mean for certain she wasn’t still near the device but we do know she must have been with the device at 2.28am when it last showed a connection.

 

[nao]

I didn't know such a thing existed. I figured it would be too awkward to turn a mini flashlight in your mouth on and off as quickly as the kidnapper does. It definitely looks like a bite light to me.

Moo..I just picked up a rechargeable small but powerful lite you can clip on ..I could put clip part in my mouth..it has a sensor so I can turn on and off with out touching. Dollar store $15.
I am starting to wonder if another journalists ego is part of this....moo

 

[kspoon45]

Does the amount of ransom $$ seem strange to anyone else? $6 million just seems... like a weird number. Why not $5m or $10m?

 

[cait2007]

From what I’ve heard experts say is if an image were attached to the emailed ransom notes, that’s supplying “extra” digital information, which is more easily traced.

Yes, but typical kidnap for ransom cases don’t wait 3 days to make a request. Someone posted a prior FBI agent that said this case doesn’t line up with a typical kidnap for ransom case. If it did they would have medicine on hand, make a clear request right away, and want the transaction done quickly. They usually send via mail a lock of hair or anything that would show confirmation that they have the person. It’s exceptionally uncommon to kidnap someone and expect someone to fund an account without any proof or confirmation. MO

 

[Walela]

without encouraging sluething anyone who shouldn't be, I believe the couple have minor children, so perhaps games, toys or other items they just decided were needed.

Yes. I can totally see that as reasonable and by placing it in a brown paper sack, the mediaeyes can't comment that LE is favoring the family by running errands for them and thus avoiding the all probable what-a-waste-of-resources backlash. Plus, if they were picking up clean clothes, etc I'm sure AG would be uncomfortable having the public view her undies....I know I would be. moo

 

[Diddian]

No, I didn't see any LE taking photos outside the home.

Thank you. If they didn’t, they should have. We know that both a moving vehicle and the victim were likely in that driveway that night, and the victim has now disappeared.

I think of an incident involving Jennifer Dulos’ elderly mother-in-law (Kleopatra Dulos) a few years before Jennifer disappeared. Jennifer and the children and nanny were visiting Kleopatra and she asked the nanny to move the car from where it was in the driveway up closer to the front door to facilitate loading the children. Then for some unknown reason, Kleopatra stepped off the curve into the driveway and bent down. Not seeing her there, the nanny pulled forward and hit her with the front end of the vehicle. Kleopatra did not survive the injuries she suffered.

It was daylight, the nanny at the wheel of the car was both properly licensed and unimpaired, and emergency medical services were immediately summoned. LE also responded, but the nanny was not charged. It was just a tragic accident.

Seems LE should gather the evidence that addresses such a possibility.

 

[birdbox]

Does the amount of ransom $$ seem strange to anyone else? $6 million just seems... like a weird number. Why not $5m or $10m?

For this guy, im surprised he didn't ask for $5,999,999

 

[TheDinks]

BBM
They likely "knew" her. Knew she was older. Slower etc. He could have shined a light in her face. All she had to do was crack the door and he was in. With a younger home occupant, they would meet more resistance, but with her I think all she had to do was crack the door. With the camera disabled, maybe all she heard was a voice. She may not have thought to look out the side windows. All it would take is a split second lapse of judgement on NG's part and the guy was in.

The front door has burglar bars according to Maureen exFBI O'Connell

 

[korncrasy]

exactly. so approached door with neither backpack or weapon, presumably sees camera. Then returns with both backpack and weapon, rather ineffectively attempts to cover the camera with stray foliage plucked from nearby and then later disables it.

JMO Doesn't seem well planned or necessarily targeted to me when viewed in that light.

Maybe the two photos are from entirely different nights..A dry run so to speak.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Yes, but typical kidnap for ransom cases don’t wait 3 days to make a request.

They did not take 3 days. The first ransom note came on Monday, the day after the crime.

Source: What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

 

[Cblewife]

I can only respond how

I don’t know the layout of her house but if her phone/watch was at one end of the house and she walked to the other end then it could disconnect. If you’ve ever used a Bluetooth speaker then it’s the same principle. Once you get out of range then it stops playing music and immediately disconnects. In this case it would have disconnected when she was taken outside.

My experience is only with my Bluetooth, but I wouldn't think it would disconnect within the house. If I leave my phone at home, I get an alert on my car screen saying my phone is disconnected. I'm usually several houses away before that happens. I have no clue if a more expensive phone handles it better or if it's even possible, but I just have a little Android.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Law enforcement agents check vegetation areas around Nancy Guthrie’s home in Tucson, Ariz., Wednesday, Feb. 11, 2026

Savannah Guthrie-Mom Missing

Law enforcement agents check vegetation areas around Nancy Guthrie’s home in Tucson, Ariz., Wednesday, Feb. 11, 2026. (AP Photo/Ty ONeil)

www.rutlandherald.com

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[SMK777]

They did not take 3 days. The first ransom note came on Monday, the day after the crime.

Source: What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

That makes a big difference.

 

[allboys]

Polaroid cameras have been used in the snuff film industry for decades and also in multiple kidnappings

They also don't require the chemicals or darkroom need for developing camera roll photos which are identifiable and fully traceable

I’m not sure what you mean. How would they be sending that Polaroid photo? If as an attachment, that still goes back to what I’m saying.. giving additional digital information makes the email source easier to trace. By digital information, I’m not referring to digital camera’s photo information.

If you mean sending the Polaroid by snail mail etc, there are various other reasons it would be traceable. As far as I know, the best proof of life they can do via the channels they are using is to answer a question that only Nancy would know. Ie, if SG asked the question in a IG post, and the next email note gave the answer. We haven’t seen SG do that. Maybe there are reasons unbeknownst to us, that SG knows for a fact now that the random note sender(s) do not have a live Nancy.

 

[Data Sleuth]

Sometimes the motive is "just because."

It might be as unimaginable as that.

jmo

Like when Todd Kohlhepp killed 4 motorcycle cycle shop employees in Chester, SC after they made fun of him when he was having difficulty going on a test ride.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/us/south-carolina-kohlhepp-cold-case-killings

 

[LRinCA]

New Nancy Guthrie Note, Sender Demands 1 Bitcoin for Info On Kidnapping Suspect

There's a new note in the Nancy Guthrie case, but this one doesn't seem to be from the kidnapper ... instead, it's from someone offering to give up information on the kidnapper.

www.tmz.com

I assume anyone who demands payment of any kind for information is considered a criminal. At least I hope that's the case.

IMO/MOO

 

[citizen_sleuth]

JMO but I would imagine LE hasn't been able to ID a vehicle of interest yet, as I think they would have been able to trace it relatively quickly (in the Brown shooting case, for example, a suspect was ID'd shortly after a witness provided a vehicle description).

Yesterday it was reported that police were requesting surveillance footage from a business from 9:30pm on Jan. 31 to 11:30am on Feb. 1 (the reporter does not specify the business's location but it was presumably on Oracle Road as he says the business was "on the main road" near AG's home). While the 9:30pm to 11:30am timeframe would also enable LE to verify NG was indeed taken back home after dinner at AG's prior to the garage door opening at 9:48pm, it would also account for an unknown perpetrator arriving early to the area.

Given the resources being devoted to this case, I would assume that LE has combed through the footage obtained from nearby businesses looking for cars entering the area prior to the doorbell camera being disconnected at 1:47am and leaving the area around 2:12 - 3am (based on the camera detecting movement at 2:12am and NG's pacemaker failing to connect with the app at 2:28am). I have to wonder whether the perpetrator arrived to the area even earlier than the timeframe LE is requesting video for -- perhaps in the afternoon or evening of Jan. 31. MOO.