Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tbgo]

Could it a bunch of weirdo teens/young group of people working together, not in unison, explaining the stupidity of the ransom (seems like an afterthought if genuine) and trying to get in/dealing with the door cam? If so, then one of them will probably crack. People are still leaning towards this being a one-on-one personal attack.

Someone brought up the Zizian cult. That’s an interesting theory.

 

[maskedwoman]

I think if you are afraid then 66K isn't worth it either. I would think if you are afraid you say nothing and certainly not for 66K

Or you quietly submit a tip without drawing attention to yourself. You would get the tip and no one would ever know who did it.

 

[Sessiebo]

Both of these suggestions

Thank you! Those suggestions are just ageist and ridiculous

I don't think it's ageist to say someone wakes up groggy if you consider she takes some kind of medication.
I take medication because of a blocked nerve in my neck and that makes me wake up like i'm very drunk. I'm a 42 yo.
Doesn't mean i agree with the rest of these suggestions in the post you are referring too tho.
I just wanted to clarify if waking up groggy, it has nothing to do with age but more likely with medication.
Just my experience

 

[jtfolden]

Thank you. So it doesn’t have to do with time? Like he was in those for 40 minutes because the pacemaker disconnected? He could have just walked 30 feet away from her bedroom.

I don’t know the layout of her house but if her phone/watch was at one end of the house and she walked to the other end then it could disconnect. If you’ve ever used a Bluetooth speaker then it’s the same principle. Once you get out of range then it stops playing music and immediately disconnects. In this case it would have disconnected when she was taken outside.

 

[Vaderman]

It's getting close to the time of day that news starts breaking in this case. I wonder what wild ride tonight will bring.

 

[Chimera]

I thought it was a video that was posted here yesterday but apparently I am days behind on some of this lol. Here is a video that shows it. Blood trail found outside home of Savannah Guthrie’s mom

Thanks for the link, @Skagirl !

Scrolling down to the next video; I fully agree the crime scene was released too early ?
Wonder whose decision that was.
Unless.... it was intentional for some reason.
Jmo.

 

[su5ie]

From what I’ve heard experts say is if an image were attached to the emailed ransom notes, that’s supplying “extra” digital information, which is more easily trtraced

Polaroid cameras have been used in the snuff film industry for decades and also in multiple kidnappings

They also don't require the chemicals or darkroom need for developing camera roll photos which are identifiable and fully traceable

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

It will disconnect, generally speaking, within 10-33ft or so depending on the environment (walls, etc).

Excellent article in NYT about pacemakers as related to NG's case.

Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Shows Limits of Tracking Pacemakers in Police Work

The heart devices do not track location, nor do they transmit across large distances.

www.nytimes.com

 

[LAhiker]

Or there was a ruse to get her to open the door. "I'm law enforcement, there is a dangerous suspect on the lose around here" "I'm from the utility company. There is a dangerous gas leak, we need to turn off your gas". Something like that.....

While a ruse might've been used, I'm not convinced that she opened the door. I also can't imagine her believing any ruse attempted by the masked and gloved man. I guess an accomplice dressed in a more conventional fashion might've tried such a thing once the doorbell camera was disabled.

My feeling is still that someone probably broke into the back of the house and then later took NG out of the front, probably to a waiting car.

JMO

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

Thank you. So it doesn’t have to do with time? Like he was in those for 40 minutes because the pacemaker disconnected? He could have just walked 30 feet away from her bedroom.

Perp could have turned Bluetooth off, Nancy could have accidentally turned it off, it could have randomly dropped connection for unknown reasons. The disconnect doesn’t mean for certain she wasn’t still near the device but we do know she must have been with the device at 2.28am when it last showed a connection.

 

[nao]

I didn't know such a thing existed. I figured it would be too awkward to turn a mini flashlight in your mouth on and off as quickly as the kidnapper does. It definitely looks like a bite light to me.

Moo..I just picked up a rechargeable small but powerful lite you can clip on ..I could put clip part in my mouth..it has a sensor so I can turn on and off with out touching. Dollar store $15.
I am starting to wonder if another journalists ego is part of this....moo

 

[kspoon45]

Does the amount of ransom $$ seem strange to anyone else? $6 million just seems... like a weird number. Why not $5m or $10m?

 

[cait2007]

From what I’ve heard experts say is if an image were attached to the emailed ransom notes, that’s supplying “extra” digital information, which is more easily traced.

Yes, but typical kidnap for ransom cases don’t wait 3 days to make a request. Someone posted a prior FBI agent that said this case doesn’t line up with a typical kidnap for ransom case. If it did they would have medicine on hand, make a clear request right away, and want the transaction done quickly. They usually send via mail a lock of hair or anything that would show confirmation that they have the person. It’s exceptionally uncommon to kidnap someone and expect someone to fund an account without any proof or confirmation. MO

 

[Walela]

without encouraging sluething anyone who shouldn't be, I believe the couple have minor children, so perhaps games, toys or other items they just decided were needed.

Yes. I can totally see that as reasonable and by placing it in a brown paper sack, the mediaeyes can't comment that LE is favoring the family by running errands for them and thus avoiding the all probable what-a-waste-of-resources backlash. Plus, if they were picking up clean clothes, etc I'm sure AG would be uncomfortable having the public view her undies....I know I would be. moo

 

[Diddian]

No, I didn't see any LE taking photos outside the home.

Thank you. If they didn’t, they should have. We know that both a moving vehicle and the victim were likely in that driveway that night, and the victim has now disappeared.

I think of an incident involving Jennifer Dulos’ elderly mother-in-law (Kleopatra Dulos) a few years before Jennifer disappeared. Jennifer and the children and nanny were visiting Kleopatra and she asked the nanny to move the car from where it was in the driveway up closer to the front door to facilitate loading the children. Then for some unknown reason, Kleopatra stepped off the curve into the driveway and bent down. Not seeing her there, the nanny pulled forward and hit her with the front end of the vehicle. Kleopatra did not survive the injuries she suffered.

It was daylight, the nanny at the wheel of the car was both properly licensed and unimpaired, and emergency medical services were immediately summoned. LE also responded, but the nanny was not charged. It was just a tragic accident.

Seems LE should gather the evidence that addresses such a possibility.

 

[birdbox]

Does the amount of ransom $$ seem strange to anyone else? $6 million just seems... like a weird number. Why not $5m or $10m?

For this guy, im surprised he didn't ask for $5,999,999

 

[TheDinks]

BBM
They likely "knew" her. Knew she was older. Slower etc. He could have shined a light in her face. All she had to do was crack the door and he was in. With a younger home occupant, they would meet more resistance, but with her I think all she had to do was crack the door. With the camera disabled, maybe all she heard was a voice. She may not have thought to look out the side windows. All it would take is a split second lapse of judgement on NG's part and the guy was in.

The front door has burglar bars according to Maureen exFBI O'Connell

 

[korncrasy]

exactly. so approached door with neither backpack or weapon, presumably sees camera. Then returns with both backpack and weapon, rather ineffectively attempts to cover the camera with stray foliage plucked from nearby and then later disables it.

JMO Doesn't seem well planned or necessarily targeted to me when viewed in that light.

Maybe the two photos are from entirely different nights..A dry run so to speak.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Yes, but typical kidnap for ransom cases don’t wait 3 days to make a request.

They did not take 3 days. The first ransom note came on Monday, the day after the crime.

Source: What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

 

[Cblewife]

I can only respond how

I don’t know the layout of her house but if her phone/watch was at one end of the house and she walked to the other end then it could disconnect. If you’ve ever used a Bluetooth speaker then it’s the same principle. Once you get out of range then it stops playing music and immediately disconnects. In this case it would have disconnected when she was taken outside.

My experience is only with my Bluetooth, but I wouldn't think it would disconnect within the house. If I leave my phone at home, I get an alert on my car screen saying my phone is disconnected. I'm usually several houses away before that happens. I have no clue if a more expensive phone handles it better or if it's even possible, but I just have a little Android.