AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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If, as many have speculated, the person on camera was wearing multiple gloves, unsure how helpful this glove will be. Any thoughts? Also seems odd to dispose of it so relatively close to the scene. Wonder how they knew to look at roadsides. Is that typical?
It was mentioned earlier that they would be searching along multiple roadways so maybe something/someone pointed them there
 

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Criminals that don't tend to get caught and leave little to no trace tend to be professionals, IMO. They have no connection to the victim, and ensure that they don't leave one. In this day and age, they'd also know how to research, navigate, and circumvent the digital world, and perhaps even contributed to its development and/or enforced its security protocols at one time. If they wanted to setup a digital crypto account that is untraceable, they could. If they wanted to spoof an IP and swat an unsuspecting immigrant delivering food 40 miles to the South, they could.

Indeed, they may not just be criminals. They may be agents of some kind and from some place. Either way, the arrogance is palpable.

And the silence, deafening.

JMO.
 
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Agree 100%. I've been trying to wrap my head around the possible motivators for kidnapping NG:

Money - always a possibility

Revenge - against something SG reported on, probably fairly recently but possibly long ago

Threat - (SG) Keep your mouth shut, we can get you

I keep coming back to this having to do with SG's celebrity. I'm not familiar with her work but I'm not aware of any recent reporting on anything terribly controversial. But she could also be a proxy for any national reporter if it was meant as a threat.

I'm fairly confident this will be solved. It's a question of when. And after almost two weeks I don't think it is looking good for NG.
Super far-fetched thought, but another motive -- maybe NG/SG is supposed to be an example to other reporters..."watch out, or what happened to NG will happen to your loved one." National reporters have potentially been put on notice. Will they not pursue certain stories now? Will they back down if threatened? Of course, the abductor has not (yet) drawn any such link, but that could happen down the road.
 
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"Investigators have recovered a black glove from a roadside near Nancy Guthrie’s house — potentially a major clue in the search for the masked 🤬🤬🤬🤬 who is suspected of abducting the 84-year-old woman, The Post can reveal.

Detectives recovered the clothing item, which resembles the pair worn by the armed perpetrator caught on video, about one and a half miles from Guthrie’s home."
Has LE used dogs much yet?
There was likely scent on items: in NG's home, the "flowers" picked up by the Nest camera, the camera itself, etc. that would have enough scent - even if cloaked or related to the clothing/gloves as opposed to the perp - to locate any clues in either NG's or AG's neighborhood.

I just don't understand what LE would be looking for on in those neighborhoods (other than the general canvassing they've been doing talking to people) that a dog wouldn't do a better job with.
 
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Wondering if anyone can think of a case where hiring a private investigator helped more than it added to the confusion.
I really can't think of any off the top of my head.
I don't know, but it's interesting they hired their own given that most of law enforcement in country is already working on this. i don't understand any of this.
 
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"Investigators have recovered a black glove from a roadside near Nancy Guthrie’s house — potentially a major clue in the search for the masked 🤬🤬🤬🤬 who is suspected of abducting the 84-year-old woman, The Post can reveal.

Detectives recovered the clothing item, which resembles the pair worn by the armed perpetrator caught on video, about one and a half miles from Guthrie’s home."
Wow. If that’s legit, I’m shocked it was only 1.5 miles away. That doesn’t seem far at all. How was that not found sooner?
 
  • #22,627
Those are extremely common screen doors. I'm a neigbhorhood volunteer and see them all of the time. The door doesn't prevent a homeowner from opening it. There does not appear any forced entry. Yes, she could talk through the screen door, but he either accessed through the front door that was cracked open or entered the home another way.
I am leaning towards 'whoever' didn't actually go in the front door. I think they might have tried, and then moved to the back door to gain access to the home.
 
  • #22,628
The FBI shared these photos, and specifically says they are all from the morning she went missing. Unless the FBI is being intentionally misleading, it's unlikely that they are from a different night or a dry run. They specifically state "the morning of her disappearance."

And these "photos" are simply stills from the video that was recovered.
 
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A caveat for sheriff Nanos, though; What if the fbi advised him to do this and they placed hidden cams to observe what the family did once back inside ?
I think this is very likely. In the Jayme Closs kidnapping case, they ended up arrested an unrelated creep who'd broken into the house to steal her underwear.

Edited to clean up my typo
 
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Last night my friend Strangeworld made the following comment... I was about to reply when my 'net dropped out!



Anyway, unable to comment I thought about it... what if when Feds were geofencing and found Carlos' phone exactly at Ms Guthrie's house. I mean, it could've been day after abduction, Monday morning... the package was noticed sitting out there fairly early on.

With an investigation underway, I don't see how he'd be able to get to front door but even if he handed it to an officer on the driveway, it still puts him effectively on the property... just not early hours Sun morn.

Hiya Dinks!

I think its plausible, if he was delivering parcels in Nancy's area it could explain if his phone registered in the vicinity of her home
 
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Disagree, why would there be a glove on the side of the road? Explain to me how it would get there, specifically relating it to this case.
Take a look when you drive around. There are random clothing items everywhere.
 
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Odd that a glove would be found on side of road...
I just posted that I saw 15 gloves (yes, I count things as I am diagnosed as OCD) by the side of the road in a one mile stretch alongside the parkway near our house.

I assumed they were discarded by workers or perhaps blew off the backs of trucks of lawn maintenance workers.
 
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Disagree, why would there be a glove on the side of the road? Explain to me how it would get there, specifically relating it to this case.
Took it off to drive away? Threw it out of the car window? MOO
 
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Yes, but a neighbor/friend was supposed to pick her up to bring her to that "group" viewing. And when she didn't answer the door, the neighbor/friend called her family. I'm sorry, I thought that's what you were questioning.

NG being picked up by someone to go to the group church gathering was, iirc, a poster surmising that might be the case.

I’ve not seen that confirmed anywhere.

Do you have a link?
 
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I am leaning towards 'whoever' didn't actually go in the front door. I think they might have tried, and then moved to the back door to gain access to the home.
I’m thinking this as well and then used the front door to take her to a vehicle - they knew the camera was disconnected and could make their exit unseen

Imo
 
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Re: the masked man's clothes - isn't it MORE risky to buy new clothes at a store where he could be seen on camera/there is possibly a credit card trail? I know a lot of LE have been saying on tv that the clothes are important and have helped find perps before, which I know is true, but it seems like it could so easily be impossible to trace. Maybe the perp bought them on eBay or Poshmark, or online in general and had them mailed to a friend or family member (who didn't open the package). Maybe they've had them unopened for years in bottom of their closet (been there). Maybe they were purchased at a thrift store in another country. I just am... doubtful the clothing speculation is super helpful
The clothing could have been bought in a niche store which is only within a certain town this narrows down the area a perp frequents or lives . So clothing speculation is highly important imo
 
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Take a look when you drive around. There are random clothing items everywhere.
It's really amazing. I'm an avid walker and the things you see can boggle the mind. One time, a bra. And of course, the mind goes to all kinds of dark places with an item like that.
 
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If, as many have speculated, the person on camera was wearing multiple gloves, unsure how helpful this glove will be. Any thoughts? Also seems odd to dispose of it so relatively close to the scene. Wonder how they knew to look at roadsides. Is that typical?
If they tossed it, there could be trace DNA on it even if they double gloved - say if they handled the outer gloves directly. Could be a tiny hair transferred from the inner glove to the outer, maybe they sucked their fingers, maybe they wrote their address inside...

Who could say one random glove is different from another - it's all litter until it isn't.

Me thinks if you're sending out teams to comb gutters for gloves after 11 days, this ain't looking too good as per leads.

Don't know the circumstances here, but I'd personally opt some rando trash can vs. just tossing it in the open.
 
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I sure hope this is the real deal (!!!); however, one time my husband and I walked along the parkway near our house and in the space of a mile I counted 15 gloves on the side of the road, among other things. I was amazed that there were many gloves in such a short distance.
Was it during Covid lockdowns by chance? Good grief it was masks and gloves just all over the place in the area I worked at that time.
 
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Where things stand​

• Day 11 of the search: Arizona law enforcement officials say they’ve received more than 4,000 calls in the past 24 hours regarding the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. The calls came after the FBI released doorbell camera footage yesterday from Guthrie’s front door taken the morning she disappeared.

• Detained person speaks out: A man who said he was detained yesterday for questioning and later released says he wants to clear his name. A search warrant connected to man’s property is sealed.

• New letter: TMZ reported it received a “bizarre letter” via email this morning from someone purporting to know who Guthrie’s kidnapper is and demanding a single Bitcoin in exchange for the information. The email was handed over to the FBI, the media outlet said.
 

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