AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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That looks like it was tossed no more than a few hours ago! I'm sorry....A glove that has been out for 10 days won't look like that!

Heck it's still in the shape of the hand it was on!

Maybe the desert preserves things like that, but they also have dirt and pollen in the desert. They also have gravity. As in: A glove will lose the shape of the hand it was in fairly quickly after it is removed.
BE said they were nitrile gloves and the box he held up as an example were Kinco; Idk if he said they knew that was the brand or he just knew they were nitrile and he picked a random brand as visual aid.

I am familiar with the use of these in the workplace and I agree they would likely not hold their shape for any length of time. They crumple easily, although I'm surprised the glove in the pic has an identifiable shape after being pulled off.
 
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So why would the perpetrator even bother trying to sneak into her home if they knew Nancy wasn't there? And how did her blood get on the front steps?
You don't seem to understand that it could be that the perpetrator needed to stage a crime scene at NG house to try to steer LE away from looking at where she had really been harmed.
 
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Since this guy has a tattoo that is partly visible on his wrist-- does anyone know if Arizona prisons take pictures of inmates tattoos? It's not unlikely this guy has served time before.
 
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I am speculating here but wonder if she could have been carried off in a delivery van and is probably still being held in it? The delivery van could be conveniently out for repair or something and parked in some repair lot. I wonder if they let C go because they wanted to see if he would lead them to NG. He hasn’t been cleared, has he?
Emphasis mine.
Not officially.

Eta : According to the post below and NBC he has been cleared !


They didnt have to move her because she wasn't at the residence as she had been harmed elsewhere?
Keep thinking well she reurned home and then ...
But we don't know if she returned home after the dinner and game night, only other people saying they dropped her off ?
It'd be helpful if LE would say definitively that they know she was home by 9:45 pm or whenever the exact time was ?
I suspect they're not saying as they don't know, even now ?
Imo.
 
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Yea I think they keep just regrouping and going over the same spots. It seems to be they are trying to find something b/c they just don't have much so they start over again I get it they shoud have recanvassed from the start and look again with something new but they look kind of lost..to me
Revise "kind of" to "very."
 
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Thanks for this. I don't know. If there was an unplanned "altercation", or other such event that led to NG's death, why remove the body?
Also, if this is the case, can we assume that the man on the porch in the video had entered the place somewhere else and, at this point, he was simply trying to figure out if the best way to extract her was via the front door? I don't know. That doesn't really work in my book. However, if he's there to "frighten" NG, and approaching the front door to do so, why the back pack? And why the layers? Everyone seems to agree that he's double gloved. Why would he do that if he's only there to frighten her? Hmmm.
I agree. I just found all his "info" interesting and will be very interesting to see if any of it ends up being true.
 
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The delivery van could be conveniently out for repair or something and parked in some repair lot. I wonder if they let C go because they wanted to see if he would lead them to NG. He hasn’t been cleared, has he?
Bolded by me for emphasis.
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I was thinking maybe someone inpersonated a police officer and somehow got her to crack open the door. At this point we just don't know how they got in.
If that's true, it wasn't the person we saw on camera dressed like a burglar. She wouldn't have cracked the door if she could see him.
 
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Since this guy has a tattoo that is partly visible on his wrist-- does anyone know if Arizona prisons take pictures of inmates tattoos? It's not unlikely this guy has served time before.
looked like a watch strap to me.
jmo
 
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You don't seem to understand that it could be that the perpetrator needed to stage a crime scene at NG house to try to steer LE away from looking at where she had really been harmed.
So you really think the perpetrator put Nancy's own blood on her steps after harming her in another location away from her house? Highly unlikely.
 
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It was never there because she had been harmed elsewhere prior to that? The perpetrator may only have been there to try to fake a crime scene to point LE away from where she really had been harmed.
She had to have been abducted from her home; there's no other rational explanation for the liquid blood trail at the front door and down the sidewalk. It wasn't there at the time of the doorbell cam footage released yesterday.
It would be difficult to collect and place blood at a scene later because it would coagulate.
 
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I think the family has lost faith in LE.
I hope this PI is akin to Jack Reacher. Move aside and let the man go through.
 
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She had to have been abducted from her home; there's no other rational explanation for the liquid blood trail at the front door and down the sidewalk. It wasn't there at the time of the doorbell cam footage released yesterday.
It would be difficult to collect and place blood at a scene later because it would coagulate.
Also LE have been using the words "abducted" or "taken" since the very beginning of the investigation which leads me to believe they have other undisclosed evidence that supports that scenario
 
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Since this guy has a tattoo that is partly visible on his wrist-- does anyone know if Arizona prisons take pictures of inmates tattoos? It's not unlikely this guy has served time before.
What tattoo? I haven't seen one in the photos, nor have I seen any official reference to a tattoo? Are you able to cite a source?
 

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