AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Authorities now have the upper hand against Nancy Guthrie’s purported kidnapper, according to a cryptocurrency expert.

Bezalel Eithan Raviv, the CEO and founder of Lionsgate Network — a crypto recovery service with expertise in Blockchain forensics — spoke with Page Six after a deposit was made into a Bitcoin wallet related to Guthrie’s ransom note late Tuesday.

“If the reported $150 transaction to the alleged ransom Bitcoin wallet is accurate, it aligns with a known investigative tactic,” Raviv said. “A small ‘test’ transfer can sometimes be used to confirm that the wallet is active and to trigger blockchain monitoring tools.”

The Israeli tech entrepreneur noted that, despite misconceptions, Bitcoin is “not anonymous” and is very much traceable.
These experts. Once again, if there has been activity in the bitcoin account, we don't know where LE is with that, so maybe stop advertising that you believe it's not anonymous and is traceable in the middle of an active kidnapping for ransom.

I want to know the same thing. Do they have video (traffic cam) of him taking her home and him returning home? (This board does move fast!)
Regarding if Nancy ever made it home or not, considering the fact that LE called in a homicide unit on day one after apparently seeing the crime scene (page 1 in this thread), I think it's safe to assume that she made it home. in terms of video, nothing has been released or said.
 
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What does the content of this post have to do with Nancy Guthrie?
Everything after the first sentence is totally off topic.
I hope this Forum can recover after this.
I don’t mean recover after this one off-topic post,
I mean recover after all of the wild speculation and off-topic posts, as a whole.
 
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Yes, criminals are generally pretty dumb, even those who think they’re smart. And, everybody makes mistakes (except for maybe DB Cooper). :)
Evidence suggests he did not survive his jump.
 
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If you could ask LE/FBI any question about this case and receive an answer,
What would you ask?
I'd like to know what the ransom note said or what the house looked like inside.
I want to know if that front security door was locked when LE (or the family) arrived at the scene on Sunday. MOO the small area of blood droplets close together looks like she was stationary for a moment (why? someone holding her there while locking up?) If that door was locked, who has a key???
 
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Regarding if Nancy ever made it home or not, considering the fact that LE called in a homicide unit on day one after apparently seeing the crime scene (page 1 in this thread), I think it's safe to assume that she made it home. in terms of video, nothing has been released or said.
That doesn't really make any sense to claim as a fact, just because they called in a homicide unit day 1 doesn't mean they actually believed she ever made it home, in fact by day 2 they had already begun searches in and around AG's home.
 
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Not necessarily true. A Texas homeowner recently won under Texas ‘State’ Law. https://ij.org/press-release/victor...m-destroyed-her-home-while-pursuing-fugitive/

There are other cases out there of LE entering the wrong address, destroying property that homeowners are filing cases. Trina Martin, Atlanta, GA home was raided in 2017. The case went to the Supreme Court challenging governments responsibility in ‘honest mistakes’ in wrong-house raids. The court ruled last summer that they are entitled to compensation under the Federal Tort Claims Act.
Sure, but this was in Texas. And it took her FIVE years of battling with the courts to win the $59,656.59 in damages + interest. But most people don't live in TX (Texas has strong protections for private property rights) and have the means to fight it, especially lower income.

“It took five years, but Vicki is finally going to be made whole,” added IJ Senior Attorney Jeffrey Redfern. “She’s fortunate that Texas has such strong protections for private property rights, but people in much of the rest of the country aren’t so lucky.

I only know this because this happened to my own elderly FIL. A SWAT team broke down his door in the middle of the night with a battering ram looking for someone who didn't even live at his residence. They threw him down on the ground from his bed (he is disabled and elderly). They ended up leaving a mess after they realized he wasn't who they were looking for. He had a major bill to fix his own front door that had been torn down. I was shocked when I found out it had to come out of his own pocket.
 
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Are there smaller or private threads for cases?
 
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BE said they were nitrile gloves and the box he held up as an example were Kinco; Idk if he said they knew that was the brand or he just knew they were nitrile and he picked a random brand as visual aid.

I am familiar with the use of these in the workplace and I agree they would likely not hold their shape for any length of time. They crumple easily, although I'm surprised the glove in the pic has an identifiable shape after being pulled off.
I wear disposable vinyl gloves for everything. I'm a serial hair dyer. I wear gloves whenever I dust or clean. We have nitrile gloves too. Nitrile is recommended when handling paint thinner or solvents and are a bit sturdier than vinyl and cost a bit more. Hubby prefers nitrile. My hair dresser wears nitrile.
 
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Going back to the theory of someone just wanting to hurt SG, I think at this point that has been... accomplished. I'm just wondering given all the resources, the public focus, the likely charges for any perp(s) involved at this point, that someone, if a group of perps, would come forward with information. Maybe for a plea deal for themselves.
Or, alternatively, the perp(s) would provide NG back to her family (hopefully alive, but that's unlikely IMO now).

I'm still just trying to understand what the motive/reasons could be at this point with likelihood of no ransom paid. Are LE in high stakes/detailed negotiations on a ransom and they're just not sharing it publicly? Or... what?
I think the possibility of a political motive can't be ruled out. The fact that SG called Senator Mark Kelly before anyone raises some questions with me. He's currently under political attack of his own and being made an example of by the current administration. His wife was also violently targeted by a deranged individual who killed several others. It could just be because they are close and she trusts him. But, on the other hand, could there have been something left in the house that indicated to her that this was a politically motivated crime? Was she seeking his advice? Fearful of who to trust?
 
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Has anyone considered that the images they released from the door camera are NOT THE ONLY IMAGES they have from the camera? It is likely the battery operated on the camera long after it was removed from the mount. I'm guessing that LE has pictures from that camera showing it in scrub somewhere and THAT is why they were looking in Folks yards yesterday and in NG's yard today. They would know the camera was discarded, in scrub, and how soon after it was removed from the mount, so that narrows the distance it could be significantly. Just a thought, fwiw, IMHO.
CNN announced yesterday when the images were released that they were not the only images.
 
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A law enforcement source close to the Guthrie investigation says they are familiar with the brand of backpack the suspect was wearing, possibly an Ozark Trail Hiker, and are looking into it and other brands.

 

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