AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[nycpizzaparty]

this is what I posted this morning from Forbes magazine.

 

[pulchra73]

Things LE haven't told us MOO
* which is the most likely way the guy entered
* was anything in the house disturbed
* did there seem to be a struggle in the bedroom
* was NGs nightie/pj's left behind on the bed; did she change before leaving
* was there blood in the house
* was there a coat missing
* was there an alarm system
* was the front door locked; how did AG get into the house, was the back door open
* what was in the ransom letters
*do they think they are genuine
*why did SG say "we will pay" then didn't
*did dogs pick up a scent
* if the kidnapper wanted to keep her alive for money, why didn't he let her take her hearing aid, medications
*is her cane in the house
*Are there any shoes missing
*when did she have her roof fixed
*did the family know she had a camera fixed on the roof
*did they find DNA in the house that doesnt belong to the family or NG
Just some thoughts.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Dbm

 

[slueth1111]

IMO

Is it possible this is just a random crime. All siblings saw the video and didn't recognize the person. Of course it's not a great video but enough to recognize I think. They are not getting caught because everyone is looking in the wrong direction because of SG. CNN said backpack was identified.

 

[UsernameRequired]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021739414402347411

Heading to another basketball game?

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021737183359512816

 

[ghettovet]

I just cant believe that this is a kidnap or kidnap for ransom. After this much time has elapsed, i cant make that make sense in my head. This looks like a murder to me. The blood in the residence is intresting but i dont believe the final act happened in the house. I think she was taken, murdered and disposed of. There may have been some violence in the home but based on the image of the blood i saw perhaps it was to gain compliance. No mention of cleanup effort has been mentioned that i am aware of.

I keep thinking about the last time i remember a potential ransom situation this strange. Jon Benet is who brought me to this site as i imagine it did for many other old timers on here. In my own opinion, much like that case, so long ago, the answers are closer to home.

I have this scenario where someone did some work at the house. Told the story later. Youll never guss whos house i was in today. It was gorgeous! she was so nice! Completely innocent. Anyone would do that. But maybe someone else overheard. maybe even asked a few follow ups. like where the house was. what it looked like. seemingly innocent. most folks are facinated by stars or the wealthy.

 

[MollyHarps]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021746493267619882

The gloves looked pretty bulky and distinctive on the camera so fingers crossed this can be a lead and lead to dna evidence.

Have to say @MassGuy your posts are ever so useful on this thread - you’re always a fountain of knowledge!

 

[Wsimm]

this is what I posted this morning from Forbes magazine.

I think it looks like a strap maybe from a 1st set of gloves? Heck, it could be the piece of tape the suspect was supposed to use to cover the camera? JK

 

[cady]

well the amateur has proven to be smarter then LE and the FBI - so far...

But he soooo enjoyed dressing up for the event.

 

[mimi56]

GAn apparent ransom note for Nancy Guthrie demanded payment in bitcoin. While authorities have not confirmed if the ransom demand is legitimate, they have previously said they are taking the note seriously. Ben Weiss, a crypto reporter

"Internal storage uses a very lazy deletion mechanism, so the data wouldn't be available to users who didn't pay," Stamos said. "The video for non-subscribers wo

 

[Chainspell]

I wonder if there's a some sort of evidence that the person recorded at the door at NG's was near AG and TC's house at some point, and that's why we keep seeing LE go back out there. Spotted on camera earlier in the evening around their place, or after, for example? I don't subscribe to the idea that AG and TC were involved, but might explain why LE went back out there yesterday. Know it's possible they're just dotting the i's and crossing the t's in what appears to be a messy investigation, but was just a thought. JMO.

 

[Vaderman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021746493267619882

Probably mincing words here...but is "one set of gloves" two gloves? Left and right hand?

 

[lonetraveler]

Do these eyes look similar?

No

 

[stmichael]

well the amateur has proven to be smarter then LE and the FBI - so far...

There have been many opportunistic whackos that have gotten away with things for some time. The Kohberger case took some time and he drove his own car to the crime scene (arrest took nearly 2 months).

The Keystone cop approach here has also been criticized. The security was lax and target was a single living 84 year old lady with a pacemaker in a dark, secluded neighborhood. The cam didn't have subscription and took Google a week to dig it off the servers, had he not taken it the footage would be likely re-written over.

Sometimes its better to be lucky than good.

In any case the things I listed above are quite atypical and downright weird.

 

[Cassie P]

My opinion is they are focusing on them b/c they were the last to see her alive + close relatives and so they keep returning to the usual answer. But now there is so much more that makes it appear less likely. Why would they need to do all of this to kill her for money? She is 84 time is on their side here in terms of getting an inheritance. ETA: Originally the main scenario I had though of was if the SIL did it was something along the lines of there was some non publicized acrimony or issue that NG confronted him about on the ride home and he accidentally killed her b/c she said she was going to disclose the issue to her daughter (his wife) - but I really think the masked man pretty much removes that theory.

I agree, the SIL theory is lower probability at this point given the more recent evidence.

But just to answer your question about why an adult child/grandchild might kill a parent over money issues:

1. They don't want to split the inheritance with other siblings.
2. Parent has already lent them large sums of money and turned off the spigot. Or threatening to deduct loaned money from inheritance.
3. $6 million might be a great deal more than their share of the inheritance.
4. Pressing and serious need for a large sum of money immediately.

 

[lonetraveler]

Probably mincing words here...but is "one set of gloves" two gloves? Left and right hand?

I would say, yes, a set is two gloves.

 

[Monepone]

this is what I posted this morning from Forbes magazine.

I see nothing that even closely resembles a tattoo. This is reaching pretty far. He has long sleeves and gloves that go past the wrist. That part of his arm was not visible.

 

[lonetraveler]

I agree, the SIL theory is lower probability at this point given the more recent evidence.

But just to answer your question about why an adult child/grandchild might kill a parent over money issues:

1. They don't want to split the inheritance with other siblings.
2. Parent has already lent them large sums of money and turned off the spigot. Or threatening to deduct loaned money from inheritance.
3. $6 million might be a great deal more than their share of the inheritance.
4. Pressing and serious need for a large sum of money immediately.

I go with No. 2.

 

[tcrockett]

this is what I posted this morning from Forbes magazine.

Thanks for these pictures. I agree with you. That is what it looks like to me too