Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[PCHS]

does it? if you did it, wouldn't you want to create a visual of an armed person at the other property - so folks, like you are, think oh, it couldn't be THAT person...

Yes b/c people don't accidentally go around killing people in the middle of the night carefully hid the body and in the same night put together an elaborate disguise as a kidnapper for the camera. Is it possible - sure anything is possible but it is most definitely contrived imo.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021746493267619882

 

[Lebowski]

He seemed anything but professional and indeed even a bit bumbling. He was staring down and walking slowly so as not to trip coming up to the porch and when confronted with the camera he incompetently just held his fist partially in front of it. He could have just placed his thumb over the lens while he examined how to remove it. Then backtracks to look for something, finally a plant, to cover the lens.

Someone said that the holster was not the correct size for the gun either, so it’s not clear he knew what he was doing with that either.

i said it earlier, but his actions look careful and deliberate to me. but that's not to say they all make sense or that he knew what he was doing.

IMO, the staring down and walking slowly is because he is being careful to walk on the cracks. i speculate he's doing this because stepping on the flat, smooth portion of the tiles might leave better shoe/foot prints. once he gets to the doormat, it's not an issue, because it wouldn't hold prints.

i struggle to settle on a theory for why he puts the bottom of his fist up to the camera, and then the flowers. if all that was just to block the camera while he messed with it, it was some strange decisionmaking. maybe he's just dumb? or nervous? or maybe he has weird ideas about what forensics can catch? ("if i just blocked the camera with my open hand like normal, it could see through the gloves and the police could get my fingerprints from the video!")

 

[LarryLujack]

The whole outfit was rag-tag, not professional and "off". It seemed cheap and makeshift, so maybe a desperate person, poor, very inexperienced, or whacko.

--Cheap $5 bin holster that profiled for a longer revolver, yet he had dark what looks like late gen poly semi auto in it.
--Awkward open-carry low handing version of appendix carry when he approached the door.
--$15 Ozark trail backpack from Walmart with reflective strips that glow on IR night cameras!!
---Thick nitrile or butyl gloves that made him fumble when picking up the latanas/disabling doorbell cam and would be useless if he had to quickly use his gun.
--Mouth light that transfers saliva


Some experts have insinuated this is all amateurish and off cause, well, the guy is probably off.

well the amateur has proven to be smarter then LE and the FBI - so far...

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021739414402347411

 

[UsernameRequired]

Very interesting interviews by Brian Entin of a former homicide detective of Pima county aswell as a retired under sheriff of Pima county, who also worked with sheriff Nanos.
They give their professional view on the case.
Worth to watch IMO

Another great interview by Brian Entin. This former homicide detective described Sheriff Nanos has having an "exorbitant ego". He is very critical of Nanos past and present handling of this case (and his former cases).

 

[nycpizzaparty]

this is what I posted this morning from Forbes magazine.

 

[pulchra73]

Things LE haven't told us MOO
* which is the most likely way the guy entered
* was anything in the house disturbed
* did there seem to be a struggle in the bedroom
* was NGs nightie/pj's left behind on the bed; did she change before leaving
* was there blood in the house
* was there a coat missing
* was there an alarm system
* was the front door locked; how did AG get into the house, was the back door open
* what was in the ransom letters
*do they think they are genuine
*why did SG say "we will pay" then didn't
*did dogs pick up a scent
* if the kidnapper wanted to keep her alive for money, why didn't he let her take her hearing aid, medications
*is her cane in the house
*Are there any shoes missing
*when did she have her roof fixed
*did the family know she had a camera fixed on the roof
*did they find DNA in the house that doesnt belong to the family or NG
Just some thoughts.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Dbm

 

[slueth1111]

IMO

Is it possible this is just a random crime. All siblings saw the video and didn't recognize the person. Of course it's not a great video but enough to recognize I think. They are not getting caught because everyone is looking in the wrong direction because of SG. CNN said backpack was identified.

 

[UsernameRequired]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021739414402347411

Heading to another basketball game?

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021737183359512816

 

[ghettovet]

I just cant believe that this is a kidnap or kidnap for ransom. After this much time has elapsed, i cant make that make sense in my head. This looks like a murder to me. The blood in the residence is intresting but i dont believe the final act happened in the house. I think she was taken, murdered and disposed of. There may have been some violence in the home but based on the image of the blood i saw perhaps it was to gain compliance. No mention of cleanup effort has been mentioned that i am aware of.

I keep thinking about the last time i remember a potential ransom situation this strange. Jon Benet is who brought me to this site as i imagine it did for many other old timers on here. In my own opinion, much like that case, so long ago, the answers are closer to home.

I have this scenario where someone did some work at the house. Told the story later. Youll never guss whos house i was in today. It was gorgeous! she was so nice! Completely innocent. Anyone would do that. But maybe someone else overheard. maybe even asked a few follow ups. like where the house was. what it looked like. seemingly innocent. most folks are facinated by stars or the wealthy.

 

[MollyHarps]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021746493267619882

The gloves looked pretty bulky and distinctive on the camera so fingers crossed this can be a lead and lead to dna evidence.

Have to say @MassGuy your posts are ever so useful on this thread - you’re always a fountain of knowledge!

 

[Wsimm]

this is what I posted this morning from Forbes magazine.

I think it looks like a strap maybe from a 1st set of gloves? Heck, it could be the piece of tape the suspect was supposed to use to cover the camera? JK

 

[cady]

well the amateur has proven to be smarter then LE and the FBI - so far...

But he soooo enjoyed dressing up for the event.

 

[mimi56]

GAn apparent ransom note for Nancy Guthrie demanded payment in bitcoin. While authorities have not confirmed if the ransom demand is legitimate, they have previously said they are taking the note seriously. Ben Weiss, a crypto reporter

"Internal storage uses a very lazy deletion mechanism, so the data wouldn't be available to users who didn't pay," Stamos said. "The video for non-subscribers wo

 

[Chainspell]

I wonder if there's a some sort of evidence that the person recorded at the door at NG's was near AG and TC's house at some point, and that's why we keep seeing LE go back out there. Spotted on camera earlier in the evening around their place, or after, for example? I don't subscribe to the idea that AG and TC were involved, but might explain why LE went back out there yesterday. Know it's possible they're just dotting the i's and crossing the t's in what appears to be a messy investigation, but was just a thought. JMO.

 

[Vaderman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021746493267619882

Probably mincing words here...but is "one set of gloves" two gloves? Left and right hand?

 

[lonetraveler]

Do these eyes look similar?

No