AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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On Tuesday, the FBI released surveillance footage and images showing a masked, armed person approaching Guthrie’s home and deliberately covering her doorbell camera. The footage shows an individual wearing a full face mask, gloves and a backpack walking up to the home with what appears to be a flashlight in their mouth and a gun in a front holster.

The individual is also seen placing a gloved hand over the camera lens, then using a nearby shrub to further conceal the device.

FBI teams found a black glove Wednesday during a search on a roadway about a mile and a half from Guthrie’s home.
 
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If the person in the Nest footage is someone close to NG, I would think they would have come better prepared to deal with the front door camera than pulling flowers out of the ground. But who knows. Such bizarre behavior.

Great point. My thoughts exactly.
 
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As I said elsewhere just now. Unless there is more than one robber. One guy carries the tools of the trade to do the robbery. Others have the empty backpacks.
Or there is an empty duffle in the backpack
 
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I don't see it mentioned.. but they were out searching in the middle of the night:


scroll down to a few hours ago and there is a video.

Fox News observed the team searching around 2:15 a.m. MT/ 4:15 a.m. ET in the area near the intersection of Camino Miraval and Campbell Ave., about 1.3 miles from Nancy’s house.
 
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The black gloves look like disposable 'nitrile disposable gloves'.

Same. They look made of good quality too. Thick not thin.
 
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Day 12 of investigation: As part of a “new timeline,” authorities are asking neighbors of Nancy Guthrie to check any footage from doorbell cameras from about three weeks before the 84-year-old went missing from her Tucson home as well as from the day she was last seen by family members.

• Sifting through tips: Law enforcement officials said they had received thousands of calls in recent days regarding the disappearance of Guthrie after the FBI released footage of an armed person on her front door camera taken the morning she disappeared.

Glove found: During a search near the Tucson home yesterday, a black glove was seen being taken into evidence, though it’s unclear whether authorities believe it was worn by the person in the doorbell footage.

Authorities are asking residents near Nancy Guthrie’s home to check their security camera footage from two days in January as they piece together “a new timeline” in the case, according an alert posted on the Neighbor App by Ring.

Investigators are looking for footage from:

January 11 between 9 p.m. and midnight, more than two weeks before the 84-year-old went missing, and January 31 between 9:30 p.m. and 11 p.m., flagging a suspicious vehicle in the area around 10 a.m., according to the alert.

 
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Great point. My thoughts exactly.

I don't think necessarily, though I think it depends on why you think they used the flowers to begin with.

I think they used them as a "grip" to help remove the camera. Before pulling them up, it looks like they looked around the porch for something else to use. Failing to find anything, the plant became the best option.

If you think they used the flowers to somehow disguise themselves, then maybe? I don't think this is the most likely reason, though, since they were able to mostly shield their face from the camera using their left hand prior to removing it. 🤷‍♀️
 
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New question: my mom's apple watch has an app on it she tracks her steps. Has anyone mentioned a step counter yet from the Apple watch? Do we know if she wore it walking back in the house from AG, etc. Walked around the house doing a few chores, etc. Have they retrieved any 3rd party app data that might have some movement in that watch?? Or on the cell? In the myfitness pal you can even login to the website to look at your stats. Im just wondering if any 3rd party apps on phone ir watch!!
I'm sure they have this info. Her watch was found in the home and I think it would be connected to an app on her phone too? Also found in the home.

They KNOW if she was home or not. I wish they would do another news conference so these things can get cleared up and people can move on .. or not lol
 
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Day 12 of investigation: As part of a “new timeline,” authorities are asking neighbors of Nancy Guthrie to check any footage from doorbell cameras from about three weeks before the 84-year-old went missing from her Tucson home as well as from the day she was last seen by family members.

• Sifting through tips: Law enforcement officials said they had received thousands of calls in recent days regarding the disappearance of Guthrie after the FBI released footage of an armed person on her front door camera taken the morning she disappeared.

Glove found: During a search near the Tucson home yesterday, a black glove was seen being taken into evidence, though it’s unclear whether authorities believe it was worn by the person in the doorbell footage.

Authorities are asking residents near Nancy Guthrie’s home to check their security camera footage from two days in January as they piece together “a new timeline” in the case, according an alert posted on the Neighbor App by Ring.

Investigators are looking for footage from:

January 11 between 9 p.m. and midnight, more than two weeks before the 84-year-old went missing, and January 31 between 9:30 p.m. and 11 p.m., flagging a suspicious vehicle in the area around 10 a.m., according to the alert.
LE found a PAIR of black gloves—not together apparently.
 
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What truly baffles me is that in all the footage I've watched and all the articles I've read, I see almost no mention of detection or cadaver dogs. They are so close to the border and have access to the best dogs available. Have I missed something?
 
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What if the camera is physically tampered with?​

Patel said on Tuesday it appears the front doorbell camera could have been tampered with. Such tampering, like removing the doorbell camera from its post, would likely kill the power. But previously collected data would likely continue being stored, said Jim Jones, director of the digital forensics program at George Mason University.m

"Unplugging or losing power would really just stop the recording. Whatever had been recorded up to that point is actually a little bit safer because it's not going to be overwritten by more recording," he said.

What if a user doesn't pay for a subscription​

Google's Nest cameras offer Google Home Premium subscription plans, which allow users to keep "highlights" of recordings from 30 to 60 days, or 24/7 video history.

But if a user doesn't have a subscription, "That doesn't mean the data doesn't still get pushed up into the cloud, which it likely did," Jones said. "But it does mean that once Google gets it, and they realize there's no subscription, they have no obligation to retain the data."

That data may be moved to a separate storage area within the cloud to free up space, and may be deleted or overwritten eventually, Jones said. NPR has reached out to Google, but has not heard back


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A single black glove found on an Arizona roadside could be the smoking gun investigators desperately need to catch the masked kidnapper who snatched Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie. Former FBI National Academy chief Michael Harrigan is calling the discovery “significant” — and for good reason. This isn’t just another piece of roadside trash.
 
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Right. It means masked man is there to help with the removal of NG, not that he was there as a clean up guy after the fact.

And I hate to say it, but the timeline is what leads me to believe she passed during the home invasion.

It was 40 minutes from camera destruction, to her being out of range of her phone. Seems if you are there for the purpose of kidnapping, you wouldn’t stay in the home with her for 40 minutes. If you are cleaning up a murder scene and burglarizing the home, you would

Nancy's home is 3114 square feet. If it was an outsider they wouldn't necessarily know where her bedroom room was though. Just a thought.
 
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Can a person tell if they're being recorded on a Nest? Maybe the surprise wasn't the camera itself but that it was working, when the guy had reason to believe it had been disabled. That's what the hand-to-the-lens made me think; a test to see if anything activated. When it did, the perp had to come up with a Plan B. Is that something you can tell by viewing the camera from the outside? (I know this is very "conspiracy theory-ish" as it would imply pre-planning with an inside source.)
 
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Does the phone lose connection with the pacemaker if the phones battery goes dead?
I would assume so. All the bluetooth devices I'm aware of work the same way. But it would have to either be the battery or that the device itself was too far away from the phone.
 
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Day 12 of investigation: As part of a “new timeline,” authorities are asking neighbors of Nancy Guthrie to check any footage from doorbell cameras from about three weeks before the 84-year-old went missing from her Tucson home as well as from the day she was last seen by family members.

• Sifting through tips: Law enforcement officials said they had received thousands of calls in recent days regarding the disappearance of Guthrie after the FBI released footage of an armed person on her front door camera taken the morning she disappeared.

Glove found: During a search near the Tucson home yesterday, a black glove was seen being taken into evidence, though it’s unclear whether authorities believe it was worn by the person in the doorbell footage.

Authorities are asking residents near Nancy Guthrie’s home to check their security camera footage from two days in January as they piece together “a new timeline” in the case, according an alert posted on the Neighbor App by Ring.

Investigators are looking for footage from:

January 11 between 9 p.m. and midnight, more than two weeks before the 84-year-old went missing, and January 31 between 9:30 p.m. and 11 p.m., flagging a suspicious vehicle in the area around 10 a.m., according to the alert.

Ahh, so a suspicious vehicle. I hadn't heard that in relation to the new request for footage. I wonder if it was the white van?
 
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On Tuesday, the FBI released surveillance footage and images showing a masked, armed person approaching Guthrie’s home and deliberately covering her doorbell camera. The footage shows an individual wearing a full face mask, gloves and a backpack walking up to the home with what appears to be a flashlight in their mouth and a gun in a front holster.

The individual is also seen placing a gloved hand over the camera lens, then using a nearby shrub to further conceal the device.

FBI teams found a black glove Wednesday during a search on a roadway about a mile and a half from Guthrie’s home.
I really hope the glove is connected to this case.

The timing of it appearing just after the video footage seems very odd, though.

But maybe it was missed as they weren't searching there and hadn't seen the footage yet.

Thoughts?
 
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Apologies if this has already been posted.

Authorities are requesting footage from Jan. 11 between 9 p.m. and midnight, which dates to three weeks before Guthrie disappeared. Police are also requesting footage from January 31st between 9:30 and 11 a.m.


I wonder why?
It would make sense to review footage in advance if someone was targeting the break in to her to see any sort of odd behavior at her house or neighboring homes. And it would of course make sense to review footage up to the time LE first came to the scene, to validate what AG/SIL said and just any other activity either. I would hope this was pulled early on..
 
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If the person in the Nest footage is someone close to NG, I would think they would have come better prepared to deal with the front door camera than pulling flowers out of the ground. But who knows. Such bizarre behavior.
Imo.. I read here her neighbor lost wifi and cameras that night... it was on court tv but they couldn't replay it.
if that proves true the perp may have blocked the wrong wifi. so they thought the door cam was inactive.. so they was testing the lights on the camera.
 
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I'm seeing repeated comments that LE should have done this and that days ago and so on. Perhaps. OR LE revisiting areas is not a failure, it's good investigation work. Just because some rando YouTuber didn't already live stream it doesn't mean it wasn't already done. What was initially searched should be searched again, and sometimes again after that, especially with new and updated information. To me, returning to areas shows continued commitment, not delay .

I cannot even begin to understand the level of manpower behind an investigation like this across multiple agencies. That kind of work requires cooperation so information flows and connects. You have individual investigators putting their blood, sweat, and tears into this case. Probably carrying it home with them, thinking about it off duty with their families. Could some things have been faster or better, maybe. But my gosh, this case has the best investigators being used, with the best technology. The FBI with presumably Google engineers extracted video from a home camera that was thought to be gone. We Joe Public don't know what we don't know and I always assume that is a lot. IMO
 
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Camera tampering at least shows us that this person had an awareness of consequences. This person expected the crime to occur indicating it was pre meditated to some degree. This person didn’t knock or smash blindly at things at the door or wander around. They appear to go straight to surveillance atop the door ( and apparently other areas of the property so that points to someone with at least some familiarly of the home. Disabling the camera took time and increased risk so this person was either highly confident of low traffic and or knew she was alone. This person is displaying at least some behaviors of tech knowledge and avoiding detection. They’re somewhat comfortable moving on foot in the dark, also they have at least some impulse control because they didn’t appear to get too flustered when disabling that camera.


To me this indicates a couple of things. There’s planned concealment with the gloves and mask specifically, night time approach to further conceal themselves, forensic awareness( gloves), disabling the cameras. This person(s) totally planned this and 100 percent an intentional crime took place. Nothing about this screams random intruder to me. MOO
 

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