Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[connie9030]

Agreed. So what do you make of it?

If outsider, items to tie the victim up?

If family, how do you explain the backpack? Cleaning supplies?

Maybe the perp had already walked around the house removing camera before he walked up to the porch and his bag was filled with the cameras he removed.

 

[Skigh]

Imo.. I read here her neighbor lost wifi and cameras that night... it was on court tv but they couldn't replay it.
if that proves true the perp may have blocked the wrong wifi. so they thought the door cam was inactive.. so they was testing the lights on the camera.

Or people did not want anything caught on the neighbour's cameras.

 

[Covert Operative]

If the person in the Nest footage is someone close to NG, I would think they would have come better prepared to deal with the front door camera than pulling flowers out of the ground. But who knows. Such bizarre behavior.

I also think that, but they did not look professional for sure. Criminals make mistake most of the time or they would never get caught. Some spray paint or tape to put over the camera would have been an easy fix.

 

[SMK777]

What truly baffles me is that in all the footage I've watched and all the articles I've read, I see almost no mention of detection or cadaver dogs. They are so close to the border and have access to the best dogs available. Have I missed something?

I would like to know this, too!

 

[SMK777]

I'm seeing repeated comments that LE should have done this and that days ago and so on. Perhaps. OR LE revisiting areas is not a failure, it's good investigation work. Just because some rando YouTuber didn't already live stream it doesn't mean it wasn't already done. What was initially searched should be searched again, and sometimes again after that, especially with new and updated information. To me, returning to areas shows continued commitment, not delay .

I cannot even begin to understand the level of manpower behind an investigation like this across multiple agencies. That kind of work requires cooperation so information flows and connects. You have individual investigators putting their blood, sweat, and tears into this case. Probably carrying it home with them, thinking about it off duty with their families. Could some things have been faster or better, maybe. But my gosh, this case has the best investigators being used, with the best technology. The FBI with presumably Google engineers extracted video from a home camera that was thought to be gone. We Joe Public don't know what we don't know and I always assume that is a lot. IMO

Thanks for making these great points!

 

[penguinface]

I'm sure they have this info. Her watch was found in the home and I think it would be connected to an app on her phone too? Also found in the home.

They KNOW if she was home or not. I wish they would do another news conference so these things can get cleared up and people can move on .. or not lol

I don’t think they’d “clear these things up” in a press conference. The police themselves seem satisfied that they know NG made it home, so the only reason for showing some kind of proof publicly would be to attempt to debunk online theories that are upsetting to an already-stressed family or an unhelpful distraction from LE’s investigative work, but even if they did show that, as you quite rightly say, those who have already made up their mind aren’t going to “move on”, they’d just move the goalposts and find a way to make the facts fit their theories.

They’ve got a much more important job to do than to constantly provide evidence that could potentially damage a future case, just to satisfy the whims of some people online. It’d be a never-ending, time-wasting, cat-and-mouse game if law enforcement had to publicly refute every speculative theory in every crime, and nothing would ever get solved.

JMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Now FBI agents are focusing in on specific items of clothing as they attempt to nail down the kidnappers, and finally find Nancy.

According to reports from CNN, investigators are looking at the type of backpack the person was seen to be carrying in Nancy Guthrie’s doorbell camera footage.

The backpack appears to be an Ozark Trail Hiker Pack. Ozark Trail is Walmart’s private-label outdoor brand.

As well as the backpack, they are also trying to trace the initial sale of other items seen in the footage including the gloves and gun, according to additional reports from TMZ.

Verifying Device

 

[SMK777]

Sheriff: More detainments likely in Nancy Guthrie case

Sheriff: More detainments likely in Nancy Guthrie case

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos told 13 News that more detainments are likely as investigators are working through thousands of calls and tips in the Nancy Guthrie case.

www.kold.com

 

[SieSie]

I also think that, but they did not look professional for sure. Criminals make mistake most of the time or they would never get caught. Some spray paint or tape to put over the camera would have been an easy fix.

As prepared as "Lantana Man" appeared to be (mask(s), gloves...), I too wondered why they wouldn't have been prepared for camera by having a piece of tape - but then it dawned on me how tape can be traced and could easily have fingerprints on them, so maybe that's why no tape was used??? JMO

 

[captdj]

A grip for what? Because of the gloves? That could be an option. It just seems like if it was family they already knew what they needed to do so more than likely would have come prepared for the removal of the camera. I just find the pulling up of the lantana to be a strange move in any theory.

Think he needed something light in color to get camera to react..he might have thought his glove was too dark? Hard to really know what he was thinking but that's one theory

 

[Skigh]

If the person in the Nest footage is someone close to NG, I would think they would have come better prepared to deal with the front door camera than pulling flowers out of the ground. But who knows. Such bizarre behavior.

Perhaps the guy had been told the cameras had been disabled and he then realised they weren't.
Maybe they knew Nancy had not renewed her subscription and thought that meant the cameras would be switched off.

 

[PCHS]

And his mouth would be open all the time so saliva could just drool out. I wonder if they have looked on the floors for that? Would be hard to find once dried.

If this is an actual flashlight that is held inside the mouth - I guess knowing what jobs a person would typically use this is in more frequently would be a good place to start and were those workers recently at or near the house? Anyone can buy it, but someone who uses this type of light regularly in say their job would be comfortable using it and likely have it on hand..as this person seemed.

 

[raja]

Maybe someone who knows the perp and wants him found but does not want their ID known threw those gloves out to be found. Far fetched I know. Just a thought. Everything about this case is strange.

 

[m00c0w]

Good point. Defense attorneys would have a field day though. IMO

It all depends on what evidence is ultimately recovered. Finding a burner phone that was around the location and clothes with her blood on it in someone’s trash that also knows her and has motive to do this would be less problematic than, say, relying solely on DNA from a random glove.

JMO

 

[captdj]

Or people did not want anything caught on the neighbour's cameras.

agree.. wifi names gets confusing if you don't use your name or house number. you cant always go by strength..

 

[fridaybaker]

Hesitating to post as I’m so far behind (I went to sleep and am now approximately 3,000 posts behind!) so apologies in advance if I should know this: Do we know the reason for the request for nearby camera footage from a date of a couple of weeks ago?
TIA!

 

[Jade]

Why would the “clean up guy” try to enter by breaking in through the front door instead of going in through the same door as the kidnapper? I swear some of yall need to think your theories through before posting… up next we’ll hear someone’s epiphany about how they’re certain that NG was a drug kingpin, killed by a rival cartel so that they could take over her routes.

Because the inaccessible camera on the back yard roof would record them taking NG out of her home?

Because the front door was closer to the drive where they planned to take her out to a vehicle?

Because, IF that’s a second guy, he was, as suggested on this thread by a poster, trying to ring the doorbell to alert first guy he was out there and the door not opened for him as expected and now he is having to wrestle with a camera still functioning.

Of course I have no idea and neither does anyone else.

Everyone, posting within WS TOS, is welcome to spitball, talk out loud, express themselves with those not interested or with no conversational contribution on the expressed thoughts to scroll and roll by that post.

Making fun of others posters isn’t necessary and not very Websleuths-y, imo.



All imo

 

[maskedwoman]

I am leaning towards 'whoever' didn't actually go in the front door. I think they might have tried, and then moved to the back door to gain access to the home.

I think that's quite possible. The video released is very short, probably to keep from releasing much actual information. The camera and bluetooth activity goes on for around 40 minutes. And we have no idea yet how many people were there that night. We only know what has been shown to us. The back lights were not out for nothing and nothing has been released that would tell us how LE believes they entered the house. MOO

 

[m00c0w]

What truly baffles me is that in all the footage I've watched and all the articles I've read, I see almost no mention of detection or cadaver dogs. They are so close to the border and have access to the best dogs available. Have I missed something?

CBP deploying tracking dogs in search for Nancy Guthrie

Authorities believe Nancy Guthrie may have been forcibly removed from her home, where she was last seen Saturday evening.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[shonyakay]

I'm interested to know if any of Nancy's debit/credit cards were missing from her home. It is possible that someone decided to kidnap her to take her to withdraw money from any of her accounts but she was injured possibly killed in the process.
Then when the case went national this individual decided to write the ransom letter to get money that way.