• #23,941
I’m still curious as to what they were looking for on the roof. That we’re looking around all over it. Just looking for Nancy’s camera?
 
  • #23,942
I'm interested to know if any of Nancy's debit/credit cards were missing from her home. It is possible that someone decided to kidnap her to take her to withdraw money from any of her accounts but she was injured possibly killed in the process.
Then when the case went national this individual decided to write the ransom letter to get money that way.

To me this is unlikely. With the way the suspect was dressed, with the full backpack and firearm, if he was there with the intent to steal her debt/credit cards he could have just demanded them along with pin numbers. Having her along for that ride to a bank doesn't fit for me. She's more of a problem in this scenario to deal with afterward. Also, I think there's a limit to how much can be withdrawn. Also, those 🤬🤬🤬 or withdrawals would be easy to track.

At this moment, subject to change, I think this person(s) was there to specifically murder NG. The distracting ransom demands are not connected at all. I say person(s) because the suspect in the video might not be the mastermind behind this tragic event. I also don't think this suspect is some professional assassin either. While they look silly to me with a firearm hanging above their crotch w/ a holster that's likely meant for the inside of your waistband, and grabs flowers from her beds, this person likely showed extreme violence towards NG in just removing her from the home. IMO
 
  • #23,943
As prepared as "Lantana Man" appeared to be (mask(s), gloves...), I too wondered why they wouldn't have been prepared for camera by having a piece of tape - but then it dawned on me how tape can be traced and could easily have fingerprints on them, so maybe that's why no tape was used??? JMO
I'm no criminal mastermind, but even I've seen the movies where the masked bad guy sprays the security camera with shaving cream.

So while this creep had the foresight to mask/glove up and load up a backpack, said backpack contained nothing to blind a security camera.

Not the sharpest crayon in the box, our mystery Crayola.

Which is what makes it a real stretch for me to believe that he's the one who authored the emails demanding the Bitcoin.

JMO.
 
  • #23,944
It is not a date range. It’s a range of times on two specific dates.


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My mistake, perhaps this was prompted by reviews of video in the date range that cased them to hone in on person(s)..which would make sense imo.
 
  • #23,945
I've got a security storm door on both my front and garage side door. No crime here. I just like it because you can leave it open, let air in and it feels secure.
It’s interesting because since 1972 I have always had a security system (burglar alarm) where I lived. It’s set at night and if someone breaks in, it blasts sirens and calls the police. I wonder if in this area of AZ residents don’t use security systems?
 
  • #23,946
Just a random thought on the backpack. Do we know if other cameras were missing? perhaps that was this guys job, sweeping the property. Perhaps other cameras he took down in his backpack
 
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  • #23,948
It is not a date range. It’s a range of times on two specific dates.


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They are also asking neighbors what cars they drive and specifically asking about a truck.


The FBI and the Pima County Sheriff’s Department have also been questioning neighbors about “what cars [they] drive and if [they] have a truck.”

Neighbor David Romano confirmed to NBC on Thursday, “They’ve been asking for a truck.”

 
  • #23,949
I think there are plenty of people, though, who are willing to abandon their theories when new evidence seems to refute them. I know I certainly have in the past several days...
Totally agree that there’d be people who would change their minds, but it’s not LE’s job to change people’s minds about online theories, it’s to focus on the investigation. I just can’t see them addressing such things publicly in a press conference unless they thought it was actually relevant to their case to do so.

JMO
 
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Totally agree that there’d be people who would change their minds, but it’s not LE’s job to change people’s minds about online theories, it’s to focus on the investigation. I just can’t see them addressing online theories publicly in a press conference unless they thought it was actually relevant to their case to do so.

JMO
Agreed.
 
  • #23,951
I like your analysis. So this could imply that the person has some telecoms/I.T. expertise possibly, or can one glean this off the internet?
Anyone familiar with IT would know the data is recoverable until overwritten. If this was his thinking it indicates he is less familiar with how these are networked than many lay people, not more.
 
  • #23,952
The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?
CP is very clearly lying about this as he's clearly in the driver's seat when they pull him over. Lying very, very well. I imagine he lied that his wife was driving because she's probably the DoorDasher, but if he's lying so easily about this what else is he lying about? Timestamp: 00:38.

 
  • #23,953
Yes, if they had ever touched the tape with their bare hands, it could be and possibly traced. Spray paint seems much easier, and you just take it with you. Not sure if you are familiar with the Idaho case but Kohberger apparently had touched the knife sheath at some point in a very small spot and they were able to get his DNA from that. I am sure he did not intend to leave that at the scene but may have forgotten or did not even realize he had touched it with his bare hands.
Yes and it kinda looks like a roll of duct tape on his left wrist. Think he wasnt prepared to see that camera active I'm.guessing more transfer evidence so he removes it completely . I don't have that exact doorbell camera but since it was battery...my battery ones are easier to remove from the base cause of battery changes and the wired ones more difficult (if no wifi blocker is used.)
 
  • #23,954
I think this is a good theory and the only one that makes much sense to me for why the perp bothered to pick the flowers out of the ground and hold them up against the camera. It's a poor strategy for obstructing the camera view and I don't think would really fool anyone. It's interesting the perp did not have a better strategy for dealing with the Nest camera from the get-go. Like shaving cream for instance.

Maybe perp had info the camera subscription was off, but didn't account for the fact that someone could still watch the live feed if they got an alert. Is there anything on the camera that indicates it is active? A red light? A shutter movement? Something that would alert the perp that the camera is, indeed, on?
 
  • #23,955
CP is very clearly lying about this as he's clearly in the driver's seat when they pull him over. Lying very, very well. I imagine he lied that his wife was driving because she's probably the DoorDasher, but if he's lying so easily about this what else is he lying about? Timestamp: 00:38.

And I’m sorry to bring this up in the case he’s truly innocent, but the first time I saw him on camera I thought his head was the exact shape of the perp in the mask. MOO
 
  • #23,956
s pre meditated to some degree. This pers

They are also asking neighbors what cars they drive and specifically asking about a truck.




My guess is that have surveillance and this is trying to rule out vehicles they see on surveillance---so they are not chasing their tail. An effort to rule out the ones they can, leaving the ones they cannot as potential persons of interest. Of course, JMO.
 
  • #23,957
CP is very clearly lying about this as he's clearly in the driver's seat when they pull him over. Lying very, very well. I imagine he lied that his wife was driving because she's probably the DoorDasher, but if he's lying so easily about this what else is he lying about? Timestamp: 00:38.


Something about this guy is off. His body language is too extra. Too exaggerated.
 
  • #23,958
CNN 02/12/26 Steve Moore, a retired FBI supervisory special agent, quote: “What this strikes me as is somebody who doesn’t know what he doesn’t know,” Moore said.

What this strikes me is the FBI does not know what they don't know.
 
  • #23,959
And I’m sorry to bring this up in the case he’s truly innocent, but the first time I saw him on camera I thought his head was the exact shape of the perp in the mask. MOO

For me, the mouth matches.
 
  • #23,960
It’s interesting because since 1972 I have always had a security system (burglar alarm) where I lived. It’s set at night and if someone breaks in, it blasts sirens and calls the police. I wonder if in this area of AZ residents don’t use security systems?
I think ime that for some people/families tend to do it more than others even those not necessarily wealthy. In my circle I have known some people who everyone in their family has an alarm setting in their home. It wasn't a thing for anyone in my family and I honestly wish my parents would as they get older and do have people come to do wok on the home :(
 
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