Obese cat to trip over hereI always had a big watch dog.
Obese cat to trip over hereI always had a big watch dog.
I ask again, could it be that the back pack(s) were brought to store their own evidence, like cameras they remove, etc..... Not necessarily for stolen goodsIn this recently released video, that robber seemed smart enough (!!) to bring TWO backpacks. Meaning he was actually planning to do a robbery and have room to stash his loot. Like us, going on vacation, and bringing an extra travel bag to bring home all our shopping! The Nancy suspect appears to have come with a fully loaded abduction kit backpack that didn't have room for any stolen goods. (Assuming that video capture was before he ever entered the home, which it appears to be.)
tucson.com
The importance of this, if this is true, is that Walmart can look across their entire network for anyone, anywhere, at any time, who bought those items at the same time. They may then be able to pull video from that transaction, and of course card data if the perp used one.No. The DM article just points out they are available at Walmart. Excerpt:
"To many observers, the entire outfit appears newly purchased. Generic. Budget. Cobbled together from big-box or online retailers in an effort to avoid standing out.
The Daily Mail found several of these items in a Walmart just miles from Guthrie's home.
Vecchi said that is consistent with offenders attempting stealth. They avoid wearing their own clothes. They buy disposable items. They assume anonymity lies in being ordinary.
But ordinary leaves a paper trail.
'No matter what it was, it's going to generate some sort of retail transaction, digital transaction, and distribution trail,' Vecchi said.
That is where the real grind begins. According to Leising, agents will first work to identify the precise make and model of every visible item – backpack, gloves, holster, jacket, weapon attachment.
Even seemingly bland products can often be narrowed down through stitching patterns, strap geometry, zipper pulls and the way fabric drapes on a body.
'Somebody knows that strap. Somebody knows that holster,' Leising said.
Once identified, investigators trace where those products are sold."
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Outfit clues that can unmask Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper
The Daily Mail spoke with retired FBI agents to break down how clothing and gear - even generic, big-box items - could leave a trail of breadcrumbs leading straight to an arrest.www.dailymail.co.uk
I think the shoes are differentDoes both of these pictures look like the same person to you all? Apparenlty, Meghan Kelly was saying this onelooks like the person is wearing a different jacket, and that it's camo. It's too blurry for me to be sure of that. What do you all think?
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Images show masked person on Nancy Guthrie's porch the night she went missing
Authorities investigating the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie released the first surveillance images Tuesday, showing a masked person on her porch the night she went missing.www.pbs.org
I don't know if those are actually porch lights or not, but I do know from personal experience that infrared cameras show anything at all reflective as a very bright spot -- so bright that it looks for sure like it's lit up. In my case, I assumed they were indeed lights until a yard camera appeared to repeatedly show lights on at my home during the night when I knew they were not. I eventually figured out it was merely a reflective spot on the porch that the camera showed as a big bright spot looking for all the world like I had left my living room lights blazing. MOOI’ve been thinking about porch lights too. In images fbi released we see lights behind masked man. Initially I saw folks comment maybe car lights. That’s frequently corrected to be porch lights from house across from Nancy. So, they could use porch lights?
Boy they didn't try real hard, because that jacket is not right IMO. Cuffs totally different and would be obvious if it was this. Holster appeared to me to have a contrasting trim either in color or material by IR. Gloves didnt have the knit. Disappointing.No direct sources on why they think these items are the brand listed, but grabbed larger images for anyone that wants them.
They think the jacket is 2XU brand, the gun holster Uncle Mike's, the nitrite gloves Hyper Tough, and the backpack Ozark Trail. I know there's been some chatter about Ozark Trail. All four of the items I just listed appear to be sold at Walmart. They think the ski mask is Rothco, which they've found online.
I dont see it. I think the mask just frames the eyes in a way that covers some of the eyebrows making them looked groomed. They could, in fact, be big and bushy.When I look at this photo of the kidnapper, the shapped and thin eyebrows and the eyes make me wonder if this is a female? IMO
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FBI images in Nancy Guthrie case suggest burglary gone wrong, crime experts say
Crime experts say FBI images of a masked, armed person at Nancy Guthrie’s home suggest a planned burglary that may have escalated into an abduction.tucson.com
I agree it gives important information. Was a good catch by them.The zoom in provided useful information on a potential reason they were there. It appears they are carrying a cell phone and the phone showed agent had height app on phone. Photo of phone from Fox Digital. Not confirmed, but possible the mounting bracket for the ring camera was taken.
I am hundreds of posts behind, but I saw this and wanted to bring it forward because it's a new theory, and it makes great sense!<Snipped by me> Per Megyn Kelly there was blood going all the way down Nancy's walkway up to the driveway area and stops at the driveway area that extends across her front yard.
Early reports that we all were hearing was that the blood didn't go past the doorway nook.
There doesn't appear to be a vehicle parked there though in the door nest cam.
Maybe the purpose of disconnecting the door cam was to remove it because the perp(s) planned to bring their vehicle up to the driveway to bring Nancy out that way and they didn't want the camera to capture their vehicle.
An outsider, after disconnecting the door cam, could have brought their vehicle up to the front driveway area with a plan to take Nancy out to it.
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Ohhh, like this. True. He's use to doing that.Ok, here are my thoughts. The flashlight in his mouth thing. It could be a habit that someone will recognize that he does around the house, or if he's on another video doing it! Its a very unusual feature imo.
A person yesterday posted that both that mouth flashlight and the gloves are habitually used by mechanics.Ok, here are my thoughts. The flashlight in his mouth thing. It could be a habit that someone will recognize that he does around the house, or if he's on another video doing it! Its a very unusual feature imo.
Ski mask is not right either. The perp's mask had lighter stitching around the eyes (and possibly mouth).Boy they didn't try real hard, because that jacket is not right IMO. Cuffs totally different and would be obvious if it was this. Holster appeared to me to have a contrasting trim either in color or material by IR. Gloves didnt have the knit. Disappointing.
TMZ is reporting that the video of the guy dismantling NG's Nest camera took place at 2:12 a.m.Not sure about the blue shirt.
The video is around the same time as NG's kidnapping, but it was 5 miles south. Impossible to go 5 miles in 5 minutes.
When it became obvious they'll report on it.When did TMZ become the ransom letter capital of the world?
Maybe for privacy from the media?But why the white tent though? I’ve usually only seen this in cases where they are trying to hide remains or protect from the elements (which doesn’t seem to be an issue today).
Maybe a recreation of the video to attempt to get height or other things they may have missed?
Totally agree. You can see the other, unrelated guy’s face/bald head and no gloves. That happened in a really bad area of Tucson too, with a high population of drug users. IMO it’s just a guy on drugs looking to steal something and is definitely not related to NG. MOO though.You can literally see his bald head there is no mask. Both the video by TMZ and the ring footage showing another guy checking for unlocked cars are unmasked and not wearing gloves. Just opportunistic burglar imo. The guy on NG front porch was masked and probably double gloved meaning what crime he was about to commit was a lot more sinister and had some degree of preplanning
JMO