AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I feel like anything they have on that porch cannot be used at this point for how open they’ve left it so hopefully it leads them to something useable
It may lead to Nancy, but any trial will be frought.
 
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This may have been shared already, tent going up outside her front door/porch area.
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Love to see this. Dislike how every (or almost every) movement of LE is visible to the public. While we can infer what they are doing here, we don’t need to see it.
 
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It's just that Walmart carries them.

I agree but it doesn’t mean he did not get them at Walmart. I would even say it’s pretty likely he did.
Walmart keeps very good sales records that have time of purchase so they can synch with security cameras.
It’s not a given but I sure hope he did go to Walmart.

Edit: typo
 
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Not sure about the blue shirt.

The video is around the same time as NG's kidnapping, but it was 5 miles south. Impossible to go 5 miles in 5 minutes.
Gang activity? Like a group goes out and splits up to perform their activities for the evening.

Just speculating as I am thinking of initiation crimes gangs may require. But, then again, it doesn’t seem random overall.
 
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In this recently released video, that robber seemed smart enough (!!) to bring TWO backpacks. Meaning he was actually planning to do a robbery and have room to stash his loot. Like us, going on vacation, and bringing an extra travel bag to bring home all our shopping! The Nancy suspect appears to have come with a fully loaded abduction kit backpack that didn't have room for any stolen goods. (Assuming that video capture was before he ever entered the home, which it appears to be.)
 
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Typical click bait. Wonder how many people are subscribing to the pay wall
You can still read the comments on the paywalled articles which often give a clue to any pertinent parts. I don't subscribe. FWIW
MOO
 
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Suspect's distinctive backpack, gloves and holster traced to Tucson Walmart

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No direct sources on why they think these items are the brand listed, but grabbed larger images for anyone that wants them.

They think the jacket is 2XU brand, the gun holster Uncle Mike's, the nitrite gloves Hyper Tough, and the backpack Ozark Trail. I know there's been some chatter about Ozark Trail. All four of the items I just listed appear to be sold at Walmart. They think the ski mask is Rothco, which they've found online.
 

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I’ve lived in 2 states, many homes and have never had a system or a camera currently either
Old and live alone now, still don’t
I always had a big watch dog.
 
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Walmart seems to be the criminal magnet for supplies, LOL.
It seems to be the place where dumb criminals shop. Thank goodness for that! ETA: No offense to Walmart. I love Walmart!
 
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In this recently released video, that robber seemed smart enough (!!) to bring TWO backpacks. Meaning he was actually planning to do a robbery and have room to stash his loot. Like us, going on vacation, and bringing an extra travel bag to bring home all our shopping! The Nancy suspect appears to have come with a fully loaded abduction kit backpack that didn't have room for any stolen goods. (Assuming that video capture was before he ever entered the home, which it appears to be.)
I ask again, could it be that the back pack(s) were brought to store their own evidence, like cameras they remove, etc..... Not necessarily for stolen goods
 
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Ok, here are my thoughts. The flashlight in his mouth thing. It could be a habit that someone will recognize that he does around the house, or if he's on another video doing it! Its a very unusual feature imo.
 
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No. The DM article just points out they are available at Walmart. Excerpt:

"To many observers, the entire outfit appears newly purchased. Generic. Budget. Cobbled together from big-box or online retailers in an effort to avoid standing out.

The Daily Mail found several of these items in a Walmart just miles from Guthrie's home.

Vecchi said that is consistent with offenders attempting stealth. They avoid wearing their own clothes. They buy disposable items. They assume anonymity lies in being ordinary.

But ordinary leaves a paper trail.

'No matter what it was, it's going to generate some sort of retail transaction, digital transaction, and distribution trail,' Vecchi said.

That is where the real grind begins. According to Leising, agents will first work to identify the precise make and model of every visible item – backpack, gloves, holster, jacket, weapon attachment.

Even seemingly bland products can often be narrowed down through stitching patterns, strap geometry, zipper pulls and the way fabric drapes on a body.

'Somebody knows that strap. Somebody knows that holster,' Leising said.

Once identified, investigators trace where those products are sold."

The importance of this, if this is true, is that Walmart can look across their entire network for anyone, anywhere, at any time, who bought those items at the same time. They may then be able to pull video from that transaction, and of course card data if the perp used one.
 
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Does both of these pictures look like the same person to you all? Apparenlty, Meghan Kelly was saying this onelooks like the person is wearing a different jacket, and that it's camo. It's too blurry for me to be sure of that. What do you all think?

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I think the shoes are different
 
  • #24,318
I’ve been thinking about porch lights too. In images fbi released we see lights behind masked man. Initially I saw folks comment maybe car lights. That’s frequently corrected to be porch lights from house across from Nancy. So, they could use porch lights?
I don't know if those are actually porch lights or not, but I do know from personal experience that infrared cameras show anything at all reflective as a very bright spot -- so bright that it looks for sure like it's lit up. In my case, I assumed they were indeed lights until a yard camera appeared to repeatedly show lights on at my home during the night when I knew they were not. I eventually figured out it was merely a reflective spot on the porch that the camera showed as a big bright spot looking for all the world like I had left my living room lights blazing. MOO
 
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No direct sources on why they think these items are the brand listed, but grabbed larger images for anyone that wants them.

They think the jacket is 2XU brand, the gun holster Uncle Mike's, the nitrite gloves Hyper Tough, and the backpack Ozark Trail. I know there's been some chatter about Ozark Trail. All four of the items I just listed appear to be sold at Walmart. They think the ski mask is Rothco, which they've found online.
Boy they didn't try real hard, because that jacket is not right IMO. Cuffs totally different and would be obvious if it was this. Holster appeared to me to have a contrasting trim either in color or material by IR. Gloves didnt have the knit. Disappointing.
 
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When I look at this photo of the kidnapper, the shapped and thin eyebrows and the eyes make me wonder if this is a female? IMO
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I dont see it. I think the mask just frames the eyes in a way that covers some of the eyebrows making them looked groomed. They could, in fact, be big and bushy.
 

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