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They’ve also offered a $50k reward. One bitcoin is roughly $67k. They aren’t going to do the right thing over $17k?! Honestly, tell what you know and then get a reward, period. If they start giving money to any random person, who claims they know something about a case, it will set a huge precedent for the future.

Also, I’m somewhat surprised that the family hasn’t added to the reward. It’s only at $50k. You would think they would, but that’s just my two cents.
I think the latest two notes may be the real perps last ditch effort to get paid? Or, just a farce.
 
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I don't think this is about a ransom anymore. I don't know if it ever was. With Savannah's salary and the family openly saying they were willing to pay, if this were truly about a ransom, Nancy would have been returned and back safe at home a week ago. Just feels like chasing ghosts at this point.
 
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I don't think this is about a ransom anymore. I don't know if it ever was. With Savannah's salary and the family openly saying they were willing to pay, if this were truly about a ransom, Nancy would have been returned and back safe at home a week ago. Just feels like chasing ghosts at this point.
I can't even imagine what it must look like behind the scenes with family and LE and ransom vs no ransom. A nightmare to be sure.
 
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And theoretically if this location is correct, and this tabloid has that info, it stands to reason others may as well, which makes the note that much less credible imo.
My understanding is that Levin contacted the FBI, who (Levin felt) were interested in the original note because of what it said about the location of the watch. I don’t think LE ever confirmed the real location, which would have been known to the family and investigators. It could have leaked, of course.

What the tabloid has here is information from the original note. I don’t know whether the note is genuine but I don’t think this article and what it reveals reduces its credibility.
 
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The alert was sent out to all users of the Neighbors App within a two-mile radius of Nancy’s home in the Catalina Foothills neighborhood north of Tucson, Arizona.


From your article:
[...]
In a subsequent alert, authorities requested all footage from vehicles, people, and houses taken between Jan. 1 and Feb. 2, the day after Nancy was announced missing.
[...]

JMO
 
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I doubt that it's the same guy, partly because of my understanding of the distance between the two locations and the time that the Nest camera was removed and the time that the guy with the two backpacks was videotaped. (Of course, my understanding or the timestamps could be wrong.)

That said, apparently NG's Nest camera is infrared and changes the apparent colors of objects. The guy with the two backpacks may have been photographed with a conventional camera, which shows the true (or almost true) colors of objects.

JMO
In his video, Levin said the camera was removed at I think 2.12, not 1.48 or thereabouts as previously has been reported.
 
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True, though less likely especially considering the watch was somewhere most people would not keep one. MOO
I meant that (in addition to the other categories of people mentioned in an earlier post) someone who worked inside the house might have noticed the (slightly unusual) location of her smartwatch. That wouldn't mean they were responsible for the abduction, but they -- or someone they spoke with -- might have been behind the ransom note. (Assuming the flood lights were also damaged prior to the night of the abduction.)

JMO
 
  • #24,971
They’ve also offered a $50k reward. One bitcoin is roughly $67k. They aren’t going to do the right thing over $17k?! Honestly, tell what you know and then get a reward, period. If they start giving money to any random person, who claims they know something about a case, it will set a huge precedent for the future.

Also, I’m somewhat surprised that the family hasn’t added to the reward. It’s only at $50k. You would think they would, but that’s just my two cents.

I fear the family may already have been scammed out of millions. I hope that I am wrong. This is so depressing on every level.
 
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I wonder what lead them there? I haven't seen any activity near that location at all. Google Maps

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Almost ALL of the activity is in that area. It's the nearest major intersection and they said a 2-mile radius.

Combined with the map showing the search area yesterday which was mostly along Campbell, I'd say they think the exit route was turning north on Campbell out of the neighborhood then left or right on Skyline. I think turning left is most likely because Skyline turns into Ina and leads straight to I-10.
 
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A thought came to me and I haven’t seen this idea discussed anywhere else.

What if this whole thing did in fact start as a regular old random robbery/break in? Perhaps the guy knew an old lady lived there but nothing more. Then in the process, the bad guy learned about the “rich and famous” daughter and he pivoted to a stupid spur of the moment kidnap/ransom idea.

Say he comes in, finds Nancy, and starts demanding cash but she doesn’t have any to give him. He has a gun and Nancy panics. What if she says hey don’t hurt me, my daughter is on tv and can get you money. We can work this out.

Then the wheels start turning and this fool thinks hey, I could do a kidnap/ransom and get big $$$ 🤑 He’s a bumbling fool though and didn’t think any of it through. He has no idea how to contact the family with his ransom demand so he contacts the news.
 
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I think the FBI isn't publicly confirming because even though the likelihood of AG/SIL being involved is slim, it's not impossible. They don't want to say the family is cleared, because they aren't. It doesn't mean they're guilty, just that until an arrest is made, everything is still on the table. I would assume in any investigation, suspects move up and down the list based on information coming in.
Yes this is the best way to conduct research, formulate theories based on data, then move them up and down the probability list as new facts come in.
 
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I am not finding any NBC article stating that gloves found AT the home are being tested. Source?
 
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• Multiple gloves found: Evidence recovered by investigators looking into Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance included multiple gloves. It’s unclear whether authorities believe they were worn by the person in the doorbell footage.

• Day 12 of investigation: Guthrie’s Tucson neighbors have been asked to submit any footage from doorbell cameras that includes cars and people from about four weeks before the 84-year-old went missing.

Tribute to mom: Savannah Guthrie shared a home video with her mother, saying the family “will never give up on her.
 
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Does the guy in the NG ring cam video have a hood on his jacket? I have tried to find the video again for ages to no avail.
 
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All those weird quotes from "Silence of the Lambs" and other serial killer movies in the Guthries' pleas to the kidnappers make me wonder if this isn't actually some twisted movie copycat crime.
 
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I am not finding any NBC article stating that gloves found AT the home are being tested. Source?

Does not say when they were found in the home however. I’m posting this for the last time, as I don’t want to contribute to the volume in this thread. But here is the link.
 
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If she wore hearing aides and did not have them in at night, perhaps she would not hear the AC shutting off. My mom wears them (not at night) and no way would she hear the AC was not running. I tease her that a marching band could come through and she'd be oblivious.
Likewise, she would not have heard any intruders since she wasn't wearing her hearing aids. The article below confirms that. "Nancy Guthrie’s personal belongings, including her cellphone, watch, wallet, hearing aid, medication and car, were left behind, authorities said."

 
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