AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I was wondering how they traced the gear to the Walmart. I don't think it's only because Walmart sells those things.
It's possible that Walmart checked their sales and inventory, and it was discovered that the three items were sold at the same time, and that they have the date they were sold. If so, hopefully they still have the surveillance video of that exact date.
 
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So in theory if a member of the G family paid today for a subscription they could potentially retrieve the last 60 days? I think this is FBI tip line worthy. Seriously.

ETA
Or maybe they already did and that's how the recent footage showed up. Still, worth a call JMO
I can only speak of my experience. Other factors could definitely play in, I had the premium subscription at that time. My subscription had only been lapsed for roughly 6 months. And you have to factor in the lawsuits google has gone through with data storage. This happened 4 years ago. Their storage practices may have changed since then. Either way I’m glad they could get something from them. And I’m sure LE got everything they could. And I’m assuming google would be decent enough to tell them how far they could take the footage back in this case and give them the footage. If not give at least the knowledge so they could get an additional warrant for footage farther back to see if the suspect actually monitored the address. And as you stated, that maybe exactly how they got the footage to begin with. If I read correctly from posts above it was obtained from residual data my whole post might be moot. Because they no longer store the data like they use to.
 
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I don't think they have integrity but someone is giving them the video to post I think and if they found it on their own what would that say?
I saw it was posted on the neigborhood app, so maybe LE already saw it and deemed it not credible. Up thread it was said that the timing is off. It just screams to me they are releasing things without investigating if they are even viably related to the crime, just for clicks. But it could also be strategic from LE for whatever reason, which I hope is the case.
 
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I've been trying to locate the photo I posted earlier showing what might be a second person shown in the ring doorbell camera. The Megan Kelly Show was discussing this very same thing in this episode.
Yes I think it is not clear if it is a 2nd person, a different shot provided or if LE altered it to try and give a different view ETA I sincerely hope LE is NOT using AI as a dependable resource- I don't think AI systems are developed enough to be reliable yet imo
 
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This isn't even at NG's house or neighborhood. It's 5 miles south of NG's.
Yes but the time stamp shows a 5 minute gap and or the time stamp could be off. I guess it would be hard to get 5 miles away in 5 minutes. It still seems very strange to me.
 
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Lets hope there is a purchase with a traceable card and not cash.
Hopefully they were positive they wouldn't get caught and used a card. Considering they went to Walmart to buy the clothing, not to brite.
 
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It’s interesting because since 1972 I have always had a security system (burglar alarm) where I lived. It’s set at night and if someone breaks in, it blasts sirens and calls the police. I wonder if in this area of AZ residents don’t use security systems?
I’ve lived in 2 states, many homes and have never had a system or a camera currently either
Old and live alone now, still don’t
 
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Yes but the time stamp shows a 5 minute gap and or the time stamp could be off. I guess it would be hard to get 5 mikes away in 5 minutes. It still seems very strange to me.
Shame on TMZ for posting this. Probably for clicks.
 
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Hopefully they were positive they wouldn't get caught and used a card. Considering they went to Walmart to buy the clothing, not to brite.
is it verified these items were bought at the walmart? Or is it just that Walmart carries them? The DM article is paywalled.
 
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Yes I think it is not clear if it is a 2nd person, a different shot provided or if LE altered it to try and give a different view
I know it's not clearly defining a second person. I saw this photo early in the beginning of the release of the videos and just found it.
 
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Yes I think it is not clear if it is a 2nd person, a different shot provided or if LE altered it to try and give a different view
Yeah i’m still thinking it’s the same perp and images, only forensics digitally removed the backpack to give a different view. But who knows jmo
 
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Does both of these pictures look like the same person to you all? Apparenlty, Meghan Kelly was saying this onelooks like the person is wearing a different jacket, and that it's camo. It's too blurry for me to be sure of that. What do you all think?

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Lighting can do wierd things with night vision cameras but at first glance it does look like a patterned, possibly camo, different jacket. I think the build also looks slightly different, but again it could be angles and lighting.
 
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Yes but the time stamp shows a 5 minute gap and or the time stamp could be off. I guess it would be hard to get 5 mikes away in 5 minutes. It still seems very strange to me.
Time stamp on one of the cameras may not be accurate or in sync with the other one.
 
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Wonder if they interviewed all people from the bar the SIL stopped at? They may be aware he is related to Nancy and monitored her actions. Maybe someone had been thinking about this for awhile and SIL might have mentioned he just dropped her off.
Did he stop at a bar after dropping her off? I’ve heard speculation about it but never heard it verified. Or was this a different night? TIA
 
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There's a paywall first of all.

What is the source cited in the article? Did the Daily Mail go to Wal Mart and look around?
The gloves are clearly not the same and even the holes for the eyes in the ski mask are a totally different shape. This is just bad reporting imo.
 
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Hopefully they were positive they wouldn't get caught and used a card. Considering they went to Walmart to buy the clothing, not to brite.
Walmart seems to be the criminal magnet for supplies, LOL.
 
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I was wondering how they traced the gear to the Walmart. I don't think it's only because Walmart sells those things.
It's possible that Walmart checked their sales and inventory, and it was discovered that the three items were sold at the same time, and that they have the date they were sold. If so, hopefully they still have the surveillance video of that exact date.
If it is the backpack they are speculating it is, that brand is only sold by Walmart. That doesn't rule out that the perp bought it at a second hand store, was given the bag, or even stole or found it elsewhere.
 
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Ive been away all morning. Can someone catch me up on white tent and what you all think they were testing? Maybe luminous under the porch looking for splatters?
 
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The gloves are clearly not the same and even the holes for the eyes in the ski mask are a totally different shape. This is just bad reporting imo.
But WS users throw it up like it's facts and then others start commenting on it like there has been a break. It's like Toddler FBI. I hope everyone gets a cool snack and some nap time today. 🫶🏼
 

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