That's his subdivision, yes.When you say by his house, like right there at his house?? OMG
That's his subdivision, yes.When you say by his house, like right there at his house?? OMG
Important to note:I'm not sure how reliable or relevant this is, but a quick search of the term "Can you trace bitcoin" on Google Trends shows that there was a hit, in Arizona, on the 20th January. Over the last 30 days there were hits for the same search term in only 6 of the 50 states in the USA. The only search that appeared prior to NG's disappearance? The one in Arizona.
Apologies of this has been posted previously, or can be easily debunked, I just thought it was interesting.
” Outside of state” VPN?Does anyone have any info on why Nancy’s name would have been searched so many times before the incident - from places outside of her state? I am not seeing a lot of info about this and … idk it seems kind of important? Would love to hear your thoughts!
The band member of the SILwho is DE?
Emphasis mine.This might rile some people but I'm one who still thinks that the SIL is a suspect. IMO, he either did the act himself or had help in getting it done. There had to have been a motive for this kidnapping/abduction. I'm thinking she took an Uber and showed up unexpectedly. There has been a post saying that a pizza was ordered. I think she had something she wanted to say and it did not go very well with her daughter and son-in-law. He has admitted taking her home. I do not see where anyone else had a motive.
I think she told them that the "the bank was closed" and that they were not getting anymore money from her. I have tried and just cannot see where the daughter and son-in-law could afford a $650,000 house. She was a poet and he was a biology teacher and a bass guitarist in a local band. The math just does not add up to me. Maybe someone else sees it differently, I don't.
Someone said yes earlier.That is the same initials as the band mate.
They likely have LE posted at the entrances/exits to the neighborhood. If innocent, this person might not necessarily aware of LE staging outside the neighborhood. If guilty, that person is surely following media and likely the person knows what is going on. MOOI imagine they can follow them if nothing else.
Agree re pills, length of time without. Too long without meds is very bad. Even if they could ever get off, it’s never good to go cold turkey.JMO she is probably on something like metoprolol, Eliquis… not taking either for the time she’s been missing is putting her at risk for an event…doesn’t mean one will happen. Which I why I’m hopeful she is still safe, but very sad that if she is she is likely terrified.
I wonder if he’s wearing a Tyvek suit under the mask which is why he looks distorted/lumpy/bulky.
They likely got him under surveillance as soon as they knew he was a viable POI. They would not want to take a chance of him, for example, escaping to MexicoSurely LE is well aware the media circus that would follow SWAT deployment. Could they have POI under surveillance already? Waited until he was away from home to divert media attention there? And staging at the house awaiting search warrant?
Plus they sold their other house for a 200+K profit presuming they paid none of it off. Where I am from a family with their jobs would be thrilled to only have a 400K mortgage IMOThey put a down payment of just under half the purchase price. Both work, it’s doable imo.
They also owned a home in another state, sold it to move close to NG. Probably used proceeds of prior home to apply to this one. JMOYep. They’re also in their 50s. We’re not privy to their entire employment and financial history, they’ve probably been saving for decades.
Honestly, the SIL ship has long sailed for me. That’s not him in the footage.
You can’t discreetly hatch a plot for someone else to kidnap and murder your MIL without LE finding out.
I know AB keeps insisting it’s him but I’ll remain skeptical until she offers up any kind of proof or explanation, which she hasn’t been able to do yet.
Sure is taking a long time for a warrant......? jmo
Emphasis mine.Sorry about these thoughts compiled during travel.
It was reported that the SIL said he watched her walk in to house. I do think she could navigate that in less than 2 minutes- the garage is basically 20/22 feet long. Without anything to go on- no word on break-in, I wonder if the perp slid in to garage from behind that bush to the immediate left when it was opened? Typically a garage is opened before arriving directly in front of it.
I just did a little walking, baby steps slowly from 10 feet in front of garage- it took 26 seconds to reach the entry to house door in the back, like Nancy’s set-up.. Unless the SIL did the backing-up maneuver to leave her in front and then drive off, he may have been doing that positioning as she walked in and did not see the perp follow her in. There is also a right side back of garage door out to what I assume is the covered patio. Possible ingress point. Maybe he caught Nancy as she opened the door to the house or maybe she didn’t immediately lock the door and he followed her in. That would imply perp/s were in the house several hours before somehow absconding. I’m of the opinion that Nancy struggled and put up a fight. She seems so independent despite her disability and a survivor by nature.
The mind twisting, parsed nature of all the communications, from all parties, is frightening in itself.
The supposed timeline shows the garage door opened ar 9:48 and closed at 10.00, correct? The only way I know that it could be reported with such precision is by way of a security system that logs when doors and garage are opened and closed. Maybe some windows.
And it would make sense for her ro have a security system. It would also explain why she didn’t have a Nest subscription to record videos, which would be redundant. It would explain the “camera” being “disconnected” at 1:47 but then showing what was initially described as “movement” at 2:12, when it later turned out the mask guy was there. The security system was turned off or disabled, it seems to me at 1:47 but the camera/s were still operational so it was someone’s job to go break it.
The Sheriff said at one point early on. to paraphrase. that Nancy was asleep or in her bed when she was abducted and that it was a disturbing scene.
There is a little card to the right of the front door that may be the standard “home security” warning notice, maybe.
Savannah’s husband is an immensely wealthy political and finance power player who has long run an international “crisis communication and management” firm. Go figure the bizarre, strange semantics and linguistic structure of their messaging.
How can a Sheriff be summarily dismissed and replaced with “ our own people”, according to the latest news flash. What does that even mean?
I feel sorry for the Sheriff, IMO caught up in some inexplicable creepy dynamics.
Why in the world is TMZ Harvey to go to guy, my gosh.
IMO MOO all as I watch this tragic Machiavellian drama scheme from afar. Truly sad and sorry that Nancy has so unjustly and brutally been used for nefarious purposes.
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Savannah Guthrie DISMISSES sheriff from search for her missing mom
The sheriff's department, with the aide of federal agents, have been hunting Tucson, Arizona, for nearly two weeks now after Nancy Guthrie, 84, vanished from her home in the foothills of the city.www.dailymail.co.uk
I so agree! I believe the family when they say they don’t recognize who is on the footage and I believe the sheriff when he says that the family has been receptive and open to LE/FBI. I read some posts about AG and TC and it’s honestly heartbreaking. They have more to lose , monetarily, professionally and locally, than any of their siblings imo. SG will most likely be ok given her professional status atm. CG is supposedly still active in the Vermont Air National Guard. AG and TC live in Az, a few minutes from her mother. Their livelihood and jobs and home and child are in AZ. Having their names plastered everywhere as suspects because of what some half wit reporter said, or because people don’t like the words of their poems or music, or the way they behave in a pleading video. Good grief. Our family deals with heavy things with dark humor. We even jokingly say, “hope no one ever hears us or sees this but us.” We don’t ’literally“ mean it, It’s how we cope. We look for the humor even in the dark times. People Process trauma and grief differently and they are allowed to be “weird” or “off.” Their normal regular life in AZ is over. Even if 100 cleared there will still be outliers of people that don’t believe it. Or people that think they know more about what happened than what was reported. A 6th grade teacher at a school?…Omg.. I can hear some of the parents talking now.In this instance, these are family members who cared and loved NG. They are people who are grieving, living in this situation. They might be listening to the social media frenzy declaring they are guilty of killing the very person they love. I couldn't go out and create more speculation from people that are strangers. And of course, will anyone believe them? JMO