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Once again the Daily mail has news before our news outlets.
 
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oh
 
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Nancy has lived in that house for 50 years. Could be unidentified DNA from long ago. Depends on where they found it and what type of DNA it was, to be relevant. jmo
 
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Has it been confirmed that one person shot himself during the raid and is deceased? So there were 4 but 3 were actually detained?
 
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happy valentine's day.

three people detained for whatever reason, the fourth shot him/herself in the head, and this perhaps has nothing to do with NG? have the past 100 pages (that i'm not caught up on in the slightest) been a big nothing-burger?
 
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I’m still stuck in a mental loop on the level of depravity it takes for anyone to do this to a vulnerable 84 year old woman. Thats a whole other level of evil. These people that are currently detained, IF they are the ones that hurt and took her, I hope LE runs these sick and cowardly SOBs straight to the ground like the utter filth they are. MOO
 
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Has it been confirmed that one person shot himself during the raid and is deceased? So there were 4 but 3 were actually detained?
No, news station doesn’t mention anything about anyone shooting thrmselves and BE was at the scene.
 
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I think they detained him after he shot himself.
Is there a MSM verified account by LE etc that a self inflicted gunshot wound occurred last night ? There is nothing on TV about this at all. I would also like to know how one detains someone after they have shot themselves in the head as reported upthread?? MOO..
 
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Has it been confirmed that one person shot himself during the raid and is deceased? So there were 4 but 3 were actually detained?
imo NO. This information came from a neighbor's statement that MSM reported. LE has not verified it.
 
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I dunno :confused: This thread has been a WILD ride for sure so far. And my brain is still being twisted into a 🥨 trying to figure it all out.

ETA @tricia posted that she is allowing initials fwiw.
There are lots of 'threads' to this, it's 'fluid' situation, when you think you've 'nailed facts', they change. Everyone has in their mind what's happened, then the facts alter that, the mind adjusts, then our minds alter with the facts.
 
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Im sure someone already shared from last night. I am really far behind. Saw this video of Range Rover search.
Also another photo before yellow tarp put up shows what looks like a black sheet covering something and a tan utility type trunk sitting on top of black rolled item. I am guessing maybe some evidence on here tools, clothes, etc.
 

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There's no confirmed report of anyone shooting themselves. I was following this live last night and first the shooting was allegedly at the white van traffic stop and now people are saying it was in the Range Rover at Culvers. There is a YouTuber who says they saw it happen and is traumatized, but so far none of that has been confirmed by police and judging from the emergency response, at least near the Range Rover, it didn't seem like someone was shot there.
 
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uh IF THERE WAS A DEAD BODY IN THE CAR, no one COULD SIT IN THERE FOR LONG. The odor would be horrendous. If you,ve never been exposed to decomposing remains, you can't even imagine the stench..

Agreed. The smell, IMO, is also sweet. It can stay in your nostrils. Horrendous. It’s hard to describe. There would also be visible blow fly activity. It would be a gnarly scene. Not to mention this is AZ weather. There could be trace decomp of course.

I think it’s likely LE was wisely shielding the area so “we” couldn’t see what they were collecting or even looking at. IMO
 
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