AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[raja]

I disagree. It shows they're taking every lead seriously and working around the clock to find Nancy. This isn't a TV show where everything gets wrapped up in a neat little bow. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't — meanwhile we're all sitting in our warm homes picking apart their every move. Just my opinion.

I do agree with you. JMHO

 

[PCHS]

I would like to join you, but I'm guessing I'm too weak to hold out.

Yes there is no way...

 

[Soccer Hooligan]

That looks like a new paper plate, as in a recently purchased vehicle (behind the yellow lined paper).

I know here in the Dallas area we have a real problem with fake dealer and temp tags. They just slap them on there to remain undetected.

 

[carterkatt]

Im very invested in this case but I told myself last night before I went to bed that if this was another failed bust up I had to walk away and I’m going to be doing that. I didn’t post anything last night but I still feel gross feeding from the media trough over of all of this. I really believed the raid last night was the end and the family would finally have some answers. Poor Nancy. Her children and family must be devastated, losing their minds with all these twists and turns. What a gut punch! I feel so bad for them. Unfortunately today marks 2 weeks. Life Goes on. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see LEO/FBI maintaining this large of a presence much longer. There has been so much money, time, and resources, and man power on this case that it is supremely disappointing to know that no arrests were made last night. Prayers for Nancy and family. MOO

Thank you all for allowing me to be here and speak freely and engage in conversation. Mods please delete my account, I don’t know how to do it. Thank you

Cherryleaf,
Long time member here, very infrequent poster. Pls take a deep breath, walk away if you need to. I find, especially on other cases, the WS community to be fair, full of smart people with a wealth of knowledge. Pls come back when you feel ready. Your thoughts and opinions are valued.
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[c.s]

IMO this is going to be one of the major issues in securing a conviction - the crime scene not being secured properly. I’ve never seen an investigation allowing the media to infiltrate a crime scene to this extent before.

 

[Lebowski]

Accountant at Tucson...Odd wording...

so maybe not a native speaker? that's nothing.

 

[auburnmomof2]

Does Arizona have a silver alert system in place and was it used when they realized NG was missing?
I just thought about this. I'm not sure if the Amber Alert type alerts for missing seniors is nationwide or not. Jmho

 

[Momtoapug]

RE: The swat raid. If the address that's out on the net is indeed accurate- someone connected to that address works in the Pima County Law Enforcement sphere- and if this raid turns out to be connected to the abduction- this is going to be a new and compelling part of the story that the abductors are connected to someone within LE

No it was the incorrect address. Sheriff released a statement last night. It was definitely the wrong address based on everything.

 

[birdbox]

Suggestion: We should sleuth the holster.

No, because the way this is going....that could lead to a random arrest at an Applebee's next week whereby people taken in for questioning based from a tip that was called in to TMZ from a person who stumbled on this site and the subjects questioned subsequently released the next day. Lol

 

[morf13]

No it was the incorrect address. Sheriff released a statement last night. It was definitely the wrong address based on everything.

Disregard then I will delete original post

 

[SaraSmile]

IIRC, Richard Allen self reported the next day. Were Abby and Libby found when he called or still missing?

I can't recall if initially they were considered just missing or abducted and if there is a difference on how LE handles missing, abducted or kidnapping cases?

Richard Allen gave a report at a Park Ranger tent, outside of a grocery store, on day 3.

LE had put a Ranger there to collect names of people who were on the trails, and asked if they saw anything. RA said he was there that day, didn’t see anything.

Hand Written on legal pad, put into a “ lost” paper file for a 5 years. Finally discovered, when they got new eyes on case, they discovered he looked like “bridge guy”!

Incredible effort for 5 years, they had the guys name from the beginning. LE error.

JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

I DONT SEE "PROOF OF LIFE" AS A PREREQUISITE FOR ANYTHING. IMO, PROOF you have NG in your possession is enough. Family or FBI relaying a question to the perp and getting the answer ( what was the name of her first pet for example?) Something obscure Answer is then communicated to the family. Feisty or not, NG is 84 and on blood thinners. That, imo, is the #1 reason she probably isnt alive. Either she suffered internal bleeding from being roughed up or the external bleeding evidenced on the walkway and probably seen in the home also, can be fatal. Add to that the lack of daily meds needed for heart rhythm or BP or the fact she is no longer getting her blood thinners and is now at risk for clotting, and you have a deadly mix of circumstances. MOO

That's absolutely your right to feel that way. I would like to say that no one would criticize you if you ever were in a similar position and decided to pay without proof of life, but no matter what anyone does these days, someone will surely criticize it. However, LE generally does not recommend paying a ransom without proof of life. They are the experts and have all the statistics, so I would probably follow their advice.

 

[britinsussex]

For those who may have missed the link posted for this! Brian Entin reporting on the Swat raid and an interview with the retired Tucson undersheriff.

 

[Momtoapug]

I mean, there were also those 50 posts about Culver’s menu and locations last night too

I’m a newbie here, I feel terrible for the mods.

 

[Assassino]

Hopefully the DNA leads somewhere because all of these raids striking out tells me that LE still has very little to go on two weeks out from the kidnapping. It doesn't feel like there's any momentum.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Does Arizona have a silver alert system in place and was it used when they realized NG was missing?
I just thought about this. I'm not sure if the Amber Alert type alerts for missing seniors is nationwide or not. Jmho

I believe they have one though it is called Safe Alerts. I noticed it was used in a few other missing persons cases involving elderly individuals in Arizona.

SAFE Alerts | Department of Public Safety

www.azdps.gov

Arizona – MPIA

missingpeopleinamerica.org

 

[Pharmasgirl]

That's it, im taking a 30 day break from the news and possibly even the entire Internet.

Exhausted and depressed

 

[Love Never Fails]

Yes. We have an 84 year old woman who is missing, who may be dying, who may be deceased.
We have video of a trespasser who was at her front door removing a security camera on the night she went missing.
We have 14,000 tips that LE is trying to vet.
How many of the tips identify a potential suspect who ticks many of the boxes on information that LE has developed, some of which we and/or main stream media know nothing about?
How many are plausible?
How much probable cause has been included on an affidavit that was presented to a judge who is the deciding factor on whether or not a search warrant or an arrest want will be issued?
We know the person on the camera was armed. Is he working alone?
LE needs to be prepared for an armed resistance when they attempt to serve the warrant. The object is to complete the task without harming the suspect, the victim, and the general public.
The streets are blocked because media and rubberneckers come right on down to the scene while LE is trying to do their job. What happens to them if bullets start flying out of the residence or vehicle?

So far we have seen a couple of major operations involving swat teams and multiple LEOs. These two operations were based on probable cause that may not have panned out.

So it’s back to the other 13,998 tips to check out.

Give them a break.

They also have dna. They have a good idea of what the perp looks like. They have the FBI, who was not given the lead on the investigation. They have ransom notes that may or may not have been paid. From the very beginning, the local authorities put crime scene tape up and took it down repeatedly. They didn’t take interviewing those closest to Nancy seriously, imo, and they have spent lots of time at Annie’s home. They have had two swat teams out.
A lot of crimes don’t even have these resources. Their detectives are all there under two years. Newbies.
If reporters are in the way, let their PIO deal with them with news pressers. Keep the reporters busy.
The sheriff said every day there would be no news pressers and no interviews but then HE kept talking to local reporters. He picks and chooses his favorites.

Meanwhile, 84 year old Nancy was hurt in the abduction and needs help.
The last word from a local news station last might around midnight EST was that the FBI was approving a written statement. Really?

ALLOW THE FBI TO TAKE THE LEAD.

 

[Wsimm]

That's it, im taking a 30 day break from the news and possibly even the entire Internet.

See you 30 minutes. Enjoy your rest period.

 

[maskedwoman]

uh IF THERE WAS A DEAD BODY IN THE CAR, no one COULD SIT IN THERE FOR LONG. The odor would be horrendous. If you,ve never been exposed to decomposing remains, you can't even imagine the stench..

True, but no one knows for sure if she is dead or, if so, how long she has been dead. It's not like flipping a switch where as soon as someone dies, the smell appears.