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Thanks, Tricia, for reopening the thread. I'll try to behave!
 
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Update
 
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DO NOT grab random people and start discussing them. Even if you’re using initials. Just don’t.
If someone resembles the suspect, call the tip line, BUT BE SURE. DO NOT flood it with theories about what law enforcement “should” investigate. Think first. Call if you truly have a legitimate tip.

FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324)
Or go to their website tips.fbi.gov

The sheriff has refused to clear the family. So here’s the hard question: do we protect people who HAVE NOT been cleared, or—because a life is on the line and time matters—do we allow limited discussion of family?
When it comes down to that choice, the life at stake wins.
Nancy.

INITIALS ONLY. Do not sleuth children.
If you reference a media video or article, POST A LINK TO THAT OUTLET
If you post something as fact (a fact that is not well known, again use your judgement) you MUST post a media link or law enforcement link to back up your claim.
If you forget to post a link to your statement of fact, you will be timed out
If you go big time off topic, you will be timed out
If you complain about moderation, you will be timed out. Although Direct Messages with lavish praise are always welcome. heh.
There is no perfect checklist for this. Use judgment. Be careful. And remember—your words have power.
Here is a current update from Fox
THANKS VERY MUCH 💕 🙏
 
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BBM. This is what’s bothering me. Obviously the media circus around this means that any police movement is heavily publicized.

Unless they have enough for an arrest (DNA match, etc), I’m not understanding why they’re not picking these POIs in a more stealthy way. Why send our SWAT, etc every time?

I’m sure there’s a reason and I’m just unfamiliar with the intricacies of police work. Just seems like a strange, costly way to follow leads that only have search warrants and not arrest warrants.
I'd imagine there are many people who are being questioned in a more discreet fashion. The SWAT team doesn't go out every time they want to talk with someone, but in some circumstances it might make sense, for example if there's a belief there are weapons present, or the person has a history of violence or resisting.
 
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They also have dna. They have a good idea of what the perp looks like. They have the FBI, who was not given the lead on the investigation. They have ransom notes that may or may not have been paid. From the very beginning, the local authorities put crime scene tape up and took it down repeatedly. They didn’t take interviewing those closest to Nancy seriously, imo, and they have spent lots of time at Annie’s home. They have had two swat teams out.
A lot of crimes don’t even have these resources. Their detectives are all there under two years. Newbies.
If reporters are in the way, let their PIO deal with them with news pressers. Keep the reporters busy.
The sheriff said every day there would be no news pressers and no interviews but then HE kept talking to local reporters. He picks and chooses his favorites.

Meanwhile, 84 year old Nancy was hurt in the abduction and needs help.
The last word from a local news station last might around midnight EST was that the FBI was approving a written statement. Really?

ALLOW THE FBI TO TAKE THE LEAD.
They cannot ask the FBI to take the lead. The FBI only takes the lead in federal crimes such as terrorism, bank robbery, kidnapping across state lines., civil rights, counter intelligence.. FEDERAL CRIMES. Local law enforcement is the lead for most cases as that is how the pecking order it is designed. FBI assists in local crime when asked and it is appropriate.
 
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A high-level source tells Fox News Digital that after last night's activity in Tucson the FBI is still waiting for the Pima County Sheriff's Department's lab results.
Hopefully when they do, results will shed some light.
 
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David C., who lives next door to the home that investigators searched overnight, said the home’s owner told him that her son had been questioned and released and was now with friends.

The woman was home by herself when investigators showed up at about 6 p.m. Friday with a search warrant, Mr. C. said in an interview on his back patio on Saturday morning. She was not allowed to be inside her home as investigators searched, Mr. C. said, so the woman instead spent the night at Mr. C’s house.

It is unclear what drew dozens of law enforcement officials to the home late Friday, and the authorities said on Saturday that no one had been arrested.

 
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sheriff admits it could take YEARS to find Savannah's abducted mother, 84, and says he is exhausted... Neighbor of home raided by Nancy Guthrie cops reveals who lives there via @DailyMail

He seems passive aggressive.

they’ll get this guy and it’s not going to take years. If it’s me I’m going door to door within a 2 mile radius. I’m going to the apartments a mile south. This is only if the tech and bio evidence doesn’t get me a jackpot.
 
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Hey! I'm new here. Is anyone able to tell me if Nancy has been found yet?
 
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Any thoughts on the TMZ 'ransom' note and the TMZ 'Info' note being
linked? I think they are both 'linked' i.e. I think something has gone wrong
with their initial 'plan' to kidnap NG, this may well be the 'back up plan'
just to get something.
 
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Interesting that this does not say that those they detained were released-- only that they were not arrested. Could still be detained. You have to read for what it doesn't say as much as for what it does say.
New York Post said all 4 were released [link upthread]

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: All four people questioned last night have been released

 
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