• #29,141
It was a federal warrant issued last night. That is telling and doesn't just imply FBI jurisdiction, but confirms it.

JMO.
I would almost suggest it has something to do with the latest bitcoin demands to TMZ with it being fed paper… but them taking the RR makes no sense if that’s all it was about.
 
  • #29,142
To further drive the point on the weird mismatch and orientation of his gun carry....if someone showed up at my gun club or range with a semi stuffed in a cheap universal pistol holster and dangling at his crotch in some weird open carry semblance of an appendix carry, there would be audible laughter. For someone to actually use it in a real life op...yeesh.

The whole look/getup had some "lost in translation" filter about it that made it "off" like some edgy teenager's version of what a kidnapper would wear.
Wasn't there talk that this was a common way to carry in Mexico?
 
  • #29,143
I am 77. There is NO WAY i will open my door at 2 am to anyone! Nancy’s mind was sharp. I doubt she felt 84. She was certainly wise enough to call 911 if anyone is at her door in the middle of the night. Just because you reach a certain age you don’t just get stupid. As a matter of fact, it makes you a bit wiser and careful to take precautions. If only our bodies were as strong as our mental faculties, we would be okay. I still know how to shoot straight and not miss my target.
i am praying for Nancy.
I’m 72 and won’t even answer my door in broad daylight. I don’t want to become a statistic!
 
  • #29,144
Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos admitted the search for Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy, could take “years.”

After hitting several dead ends in the investigation, the weary sheriff promised that his team would remain dedicated to finding Guthrie — even if their search goes on for longer than intended.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told the New York Times on Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

The update arrived shortly after authorities believed they had received a break in their investigation after they detained a delivery driver, Carlos Palazuelos, for questioning on Tuesday.
 
  • #29,145
You're right. I just zoomed in and I can see the area protruding where the snap is now.

The only thing that is throwing me - The lining of the holster is not the same color as the holster itself.
Would the holster being white in the footage mean it would actually be black and if so, would the lining of the holster then be white/lighter in color because it is black on the footage?
Here’s the actual Lantana man backpack and then with camera night vision.

FBI reveals new suspect details, including backpack, in Nancy Guthrie disappearance; doubles reward to $100K

And here’s a quick link to how night vision cameras may distort images

Night Vision Tutorial.

Here’s the whole video released.
FBI videos of Lantana man with backpack in camera night vision.

FBI releases surveillance video in Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case
 
  • #29,146
LE did NOT release this. A retired sketch artist did it on her own accord, no LE involvement. (I agree, I don't think she should have, as obviously it is confusing people that it is "official")

Good points. I was referring to some of the comments made on tv stating the fbi has the tech capabilities to unmask the perp and get a composite. They’d have to be pretty certain a composite is going to be accurate enough to generate the right tips.
 
  • #29,147
I am 77. There is NO WAY i will open my door at 2 am to anyone! Nancy’s mind was sharp. I doubt she felt 84. She was certainly wise enough to call 911 if anyone is at her door in the middle of the night. Just because you reach a certain age you don’t just get stupid. As a matter of fact, it makes you a bit wiser and careful to take precautions. If only our bodies were as strong as our mental faculties, we would be okay. I still know how to shoot straight and not miss my target.
i am praying for Nancy.
If she SAW him she probably wouldn't have opened the door. But maybe he stood where she couldn't see him, only hear him? "Hey, Nancy. It's X, can you open the door, I broke down and my phone is dead. Can I borrow yours?"

That isn't what happened IMO. But completely plausible. And lends credence that she knew them or recognized them and that's why they took her.

I think Lantana Man was there as #2 just for clean up, waiting for #1 (who came in the back door) to open the front door to let him (#2) in.

MOO
 
  • #29,148
We still don't even know if this was a forced entry situation. Do we not know that because it wasn't a forced entry, or no sign of a break in?
 
  • #29,149
Megyn Kelly slammed the Today show in an explosive post on her blog for their seemingly insensitive post about mothers as host Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy, still hasn't been found.

The NBC show shared a video on their Instagram on February 13, which featured co-host Sheinelle Jones hugging Disney Channel alum Adrienne Bailon-Houghton's mother

I’m shocked; I thought the ‘Today’ show would show more compassion …. sad.🥺
 
  • #29,150
Just putting this here as I found it interesting. When we had an in-ground pool we used the same pool cleaners for years and it was always on the same day.

A new pool cleaning company sounds reasonable.

LE haven't ruled anyone out and if they're keeping track of the contractors who regularly visit NGs home. Probably best those people stay away until investigation concludes.
 
  • #29,151
Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos admitted the search for Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy, could take “years.”

After hitting several dead ends in the investigation, the weary sheriff promised that his team would remain dedicated to finding Guthrie — even if their search goes on for longer than intended.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told the New York Times on Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

The update arrived shortly after authorities believed they had received a break in their investigation after they detained a delivery driver, Carlos Palazuelos, for questioning on Tuesday.
I believe this. IMO, this case is going to go cold. Thank you @imstilla.grandma !
 
  • #29,152
If she SAW him she probably wouldn't have opened the door. But maybe he stood where she couldn't see him, only hear him? "Hey, Nancy. It's X, can you open the door, I broke down and my phone is dead. Can I borrow yours?"

That isn't what happened IMO. But completely plausible. And lends credence that she knew them or recognized them and that's why they took her.

I think Lantana Man was there as #2 just for clean up, waiting for #1 (who came in the back door) open the front door to let him (#2) in.

MOO
Nobody with a fully functioning brain is going to open their door at 2 a.m. period. MOO <modsnip>
 
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Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos admitted the search for Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy, could take “years.”

After hitting several dead ends in the investigation, the weary sheriff promised that his team would remain dedicated to finding Guthrie — even if their search goes on for longer than intended.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told the New York Times on Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

The update arrived shortly after authorities believed they had received a break in their investigation after they detained a delivery driver, Carlos Palazuelos, for questioning on Tuesday.
This guy should probably just quit talking
 
  • #29,154
I’m shocked; I thought the ‘Today’ show would show more compassion …. sad.🥺
I heard on a podcast last night that journalist are already trying to position themselves to take over Savanna's Today host position.
 
  • #29,155
Nobody with a fully functioning brain is going to open their door at 2 a.m. period. MOO <modsnip>
Said I didn't think it happened, but excuse me: People do dumb stuff all of the time.
 
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I would almost suggest it has something to do with the latest bitcoin demands to TMZ with it being fed paper… but them taking the RR makes no sense if that’s all it was about.

Could be, but yeah I agree that it was significantly more intense and targeted which suggests it is about Nancy's kidnapping and whereabouts. Especially being a mere two miles from her home.

Coupled with the federal warrant, it also apparent that the FBI has usurped jurisdiction altogether (agency roles have switched, IMO) due to the Sheriff's deference to the FBI this morning regarding press inquiries related to overnight events.

JMO.
 
  • #29,157
A new pool cleaning company sounds reasonable.

LE haven't ruled anyone out and if they're keeping track of the contractors who regularly visit NGs home. Probably best those people stay away until investigation concludes.
Seems like a strange time to get a pool cleaned. It can wait.

Why let additional folks onto the property if it’s entirely unnecessary. Hopefully this isn’t like the pizza delivery guy sent by some randos. LE should turn pool people away regardless of who approved them.
 
  • #29,158
If she SAW him she probably wouldn't have opened the door. But maybe he stood where she couldn't see him, only hear him? "Hey, Nancy. It's X, can you open the door, I broke down and my phone is dead. Can I borrow yours?"

That isn't what happened IMO. But completely plausible. And lends credence that she knew them or recognized them and that's why they took her.

I think Lantana Man was there as #2 just for clean up, waiting for #1 (who came in the back door) to open the front door to let him (#2) in.

MOO
Bbm.
Feels sad that we're not further along in this case.
Your (bolded) makes sense !!
In this day and age of tracking capabilities, it's difficult to imagine anyone thinking they could get away with this !
Omo.
 
  • #29,159
Wasn't there talk that this was a common way to carry in Mexico?
I had never seen anyone carry that way until this case and I thought it made the wearer look very ignorant of firearms. I did some research on carrying in that position and was fairly amused. Apparently that method, as well as stuffed in your belt are common with gangsters. Some people suggested only women would carry that way - because they wouldn't be worried about damaging....er, you know. Mexican carry is in the waist, no holster.

 
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Bbm.
Feels sad that we're not further along in this case.
Your (bolded) makes sense !!
In this day and age of tracking capabilities, it's difficult to imagine anyone thinking they could get away with this !
Omo.
It's insane that they've gotten this far!
 

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