AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[submarine7]

If she SAW him she probably wouldn't have opened the door. But maybe he stood where she couldn't see him, only hear him? "Hey, Nancy. It's X, can you open the door, I broke down and my phone is dead. Can I borrow yours?"

That isn't what happened IMO. But completely plausible. And lends credence that she knew them or recognized them and that's why they took her.

I think Lantana Man was there as #2 just for clean up, waiting for #1 (who came in the back door) open the front door to let him (#2) in.

MOO

Nobody with a fully functioning brain is going to open their door at 2 a.m. period. MOO <modsnip>

 

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Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos admitted the search for Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy, could take “years.”

After hitting several dead ends in the investigation, the weary sheriff promised that his team would remain dedicated to finding Guthrie — even if their search goes on for longer than intended.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told the New York Times on Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

The update arrived shortly after authorities believed they had received a break in their investigation after they detained a delivery driver, Carlos Palazuelos, for questioning on Tuesday.

‘Exhausted’ Nancy Guthrie sheriff admits it could take ‘years’ to find Savannah’s abducted mother

No arrests have been made in the Nancy Guthrie case since the 84-year-old was reported missing on Feb. 1.

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This guy should probably just quit talking

 

[txsleuth70]

Nobody with a fully functioning brain is going to open their door at 2 a.m. period. MOO <modsnip>

Said I didn't think it happened, but excuse me: People do dumb stuff all of the time.

 

[SlimPickens]

I would almost suggest it has something to do with the latest bitcoin demands to TMZ with it being fed paper… but them taking the RR makes no sense if that’s all it was about.

Could be, but yeah I agree that it was significantly more intense and targeted which suggests it is about Nancy's kidnapping and whereabouts. Especially being a mere two miles from her home.

Coupled with the federal warrant, it also apparent that the FBI has usurped jurisdiction altogether (agency roles have switched, IMO) due to the Sheriff's deference to the FBI this morning regarding press inquiries related to overnight events.

JMO.

 

[cspotrun]

A new pool cleaning company sounds reasonable.

LE haven't ruled anyone out and if they're keeping track of the contractors who regularly visit NGs home. Probably best those people stay away until investigation concludes.

Seems like a strange time to get a pool cleaned. It can wait.

Why let additional folks onto the property if it’s entirely unnecessary. Hopefully this isn’t like the pizza delivery guy sent by some randos. LE should turn pool people away regardless of who approved them.

 

[Chimera]

If she SAW him she probably wouldn't have opened the door. But maybe he stood where she couldn't see him, only hear him? "Hey, Nancy. It's X, can you open the door, I broke down and my phone is dead. Can I borrow yours?"

That isn't what happened IMO. But completely plausible. And lends credence that she knew them or recognized them and that's why they took her.

I think Lantana Man was there as #2 just for clean up, waiting for #1 (who came in the back door) to open the front door to let him (#2) in.

MOO

Bbm.
Feels sad that we're not further along in this case.
Your (bolded) makes sense !!
In this day and age of tracking capabilities, it's difficult to imagine anyone thinking they could get away with this !
Omo.

 

[maskedwoman]

Wasn't there talk that this was a common way to carry in Mexico?

I had never seen anyone carry that way until this case and I thought it made the wearer look very ignorant of firearms. I did some research on carrying in that position and was fairly amused. Apparently that method, as well as stuffed in your belt are common with gangsters. Some people suggested only women would carry that way - because they wouldn't be worried about damaging....er, you know. Mexican carry is in the waist, no holster.

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[submarine7]

Bbm.
Feels sad that we're not further along in this case.
Your (bolded) makes sense !!
In this day and age of tracking capabilities, it's difficult to imagine anyone thinking they could get away with this !
Omo.

It's insane that they've gotten this far!

 

[oc1234]

To further drive the point on the weird mismatch and orientation of his gun carry....if someone showed up at my gun club or range with a semi stuffed in a cheap universal pistol holster and dangling at his crotch in some weird open carry semblance of an appendix carry, there would be audible laughter. For someone to actually use it in a real life op...yeesh.

The whole look/getup had some "lost in translation" filter about it that made it "off" like some edgy teenager's version of what a kidnapper would wear.

It's the oddest thing! I've never held a gun. But if someone handed me a holster and said to put it on my waist, I would know where to put in and on what side. And on the freak chance you've never seen a gun holstered properly, I would think common sense would tell you over the jewels would not be comfortable?

 

[stmichael]

Wasn't there talk that this was a common way to carry in Mexico?

There were some commentators that called it "Mexican carry". That is not correct at all (I saw one expert say this erroneously in an interview).

Mexican carry is a general term given when anyone just tucks their gun into their pants, etc. without any holster, it's clearly more loose, dangerous, improvised. It's not necessarily a more common way to carry in Mexico but more of a cavalier, bandito style if you will. What the Nest cam suspect did was dangle it off a belt loop front and center--essentially and open carry awkward version of "appendix carry" but he was just letting it hang front and center (I think to display for intimidation as he approached the door).

Now I've said that his get-up seemed "lost in translation". I've seen such mismatched/cheapish get ups in third world countries -- the sandbox (Afghanistan, ME), West Africa, Central America, where they wear nikes and track suits along with mil-surp gear in a practical cheap mix. I have my opinion on Nest cam guy and without getting flamed it seems the suspect was sporting bandito chic if you will.

 

[Data Sleuth]

I believe this. IMO, this case is going to go cold. Thank you @imstilla.grandma !

Patience please, this isn’t a 60 minute police show on television. Please refer to the Idaho 4 murders: Rhoden/Wagner case, Alex Murdaugh etc., these real life situations are difficult to solve. And not to forget Joesph James Angelo (AKA “ The Golfen State Killer”) it took 38 years to arrest him!

 

[txsleuth70]

Seems like a strange time to get a pool cleaned. It can wait.

Why let additional folks onto the property if it’s entirely unnecessary. Hopefully this isn’t like the pizza delivery guy sent by some randos. LE should turn pool people away regardless of who approved them.

Possible evidence in the pool or drains, wanted it swept?

 

[BellaToothless]

Building on my own post, that a federal warrant was issued strongly suggests that Harvey Levin's statement that the FBI considers the kidnapping and ransom demand one in the same is accurate.

JMO.

The ransom notes would likely fall more under the FBIs purview and run afoul of federal laws: Wire Fraud Act and Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to name a couple.

 

[Donswife48]

I wonder if it will be solved because someone with knowledge of what happened starts to let their guard down and starts talking or bragging to friends. Where does LE go when the leads, searches and evidence stop? Unfortunately, if nothing else happens in the next week, I don't think that will be in time for NG to come home. JMO

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Seems like a strange time to get a pool cleaned. It can wait.

Why let additional folks onto the property if it’s entirely unnecessary. Hopefully this isn’t like the pizza delivery guy sent by some randos. LE should turn pool people away regardless of who approved them.

What if it was a gesture by NG family that they are keeping her house in good order because they have faith she may come back to it?

 

[submarine7]

There were some commentators that called it "Mexican carry". That is not correct at all (I saw one expert say this erroneously in an interview).

Mexican carry is a general term given when anyone just tucks their gun into their pants, etc. without any holster, it's clearly more loose, dangerous, improvised. It's not necessarily a more common way to carry in Mexico but more of a cavalier, bandito style if you will. What the Nest cam suspect did was dangle it off a belt loop front and center--essentially and open carry awkward version of "appendix carry" but he was just letting it hang front and center (I think to display for intimidation as he approached the door).

Now I've said that his get-up seemed "lost in translation". I've seen such mismatched/cheapish get ups in third world countries -- the sandbox (Afghanistan, ME), West Africa, Central America, where they wear nikes and track suits along with mil-surp gear in a practical cheap mix. I have my opinion on Nest cam guy and without getting flamed it seems the suspect was sporting bandito chic if you will.

Do you think it could be people "playing" cartel in an effort to try and gets funds?

 

[cady]

It's the oddest thing! I've never held a gun. But if someone handed me a holster and said to put it on my waist, I would know where to put in and on what side. And on the freak chance you've never seen a gun holstered properly, I would think common sense would tell you over the jewels would not be comfortable?

I know zilch about guns but I don't think a gun club would laugh....he would look soooo out of place that everyone would take a defensive stance in preparation for a crazy mass killer!!!! JMO

 

[Fascinated1]

This is from Megyn Kelly on youtube. Apparently a neighbor saw a guy on her ring camera snooping around on her porch looking suspicious. Please look and tell me this is not the exact man who was seen on Nancy’s porch and why hasn’t the sheriff released this picture to the public to warn them?
Only difference I can see is that Nancy’s kidnapper wore an outfit to cover who he is and the guy on this video did not. there is a clear picture of his face.
When he turns to walk away, his gait is the same and his hips are wider than his legs. Very same. And he has that look of the dark eyebrows, mustache and goatee. There is a profiler discussed here who drew a picture of what she thinks the masked man looks like. This video looks like a cross between DE and the picture the woman drew.

MOO but this guy is wearing a mask.

 

[SlimPickens]

The ransom notes would likely fall more under the FBIs purview and run afoul of federal laws: Wire Fraud Act and Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to name a couple.

Don't forget kidnapping. This case has that component too, and those statutes you outlined, if applicable, would permit federal jurisdiction in a kidnapping for ransom case.

JMO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Pima County sheriff and FBI agents taking away a Range Rover,

Police in Arizona investigating the disappearance of TV host Savannah Guthrie’s mother have seized a vehicle from a parking lot and sealed off a road near Nancy Guthrie’s home.

A parade of sheriff’s and FBI vehicles, including forensics vehicles, passed through the roadblock that was set up about two miles from the house.

The two agencies tagged and towed a Range Rover SUV from a Culver’s restaurant parking lot

FBI seizes vehicle in search for missing Nancy Guthrie | BreakingNews

Police also sealed off a road near Nancy Guthrie’s Arizona home.

www.breakingnews.ie