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I think that was confirmed by the sheriff in one of the press conferences IIRC
I do not know all her health complications. Still, from my husband’s health I can say, you CAN survive at least a month without meds (maybe longer) with a pacemaker (notwithstanding complications that may occur later) Keeping hope alive.
Note: my husband is a young 81 yr. old.
 
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the video of masked man reminds me of Missy Bevers murder, the video of a masked person in her murder has not led to it being solved
 
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It's the oddest thing! I've never held a gun. But if someone handed me a holster and said to put it on my waist, I would know where to put in and on what side. And on the freak chance you've never seen a gun holstered properly, I would think common sense would tell you over the jewels would not be comfortable?
And it looks to me like the holster may be connected to a belt loop, rather than a belt. That would suggest a complete novice.
 
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Nah. Jmo, but too many factors. Hoda will probably just come back anyways. Even if not, in any case, small list of potentials, can't see anyone risking that, and no guarantee SG wouldn't come back to be held by her Today family. They seem to like each other there.
I think it depends on the fate of her mother. If her mother is found alive, the sunny Savannah morning show TV host works just fine, provided her closest family are cleared.

If her mother doesn't make it and/or family members are found to be involved, regardless of Savannah being able to show up and act the part, I think the audience would actually struggle with this.

Don't underestimate SG. If she has to take a more serious posture, she could easily re-focus on a less sunny role. I think she continues to succeed regardless, if she wants to work.

I think the notion of someone having her mother harmed to try to get her spot is special.
 
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I wouldn’t be surprised at all. MOO
Or someone targeting SG husband? His job is involved in international political communications, as per google search. Some sort of political conflict, or goal? One ransom letter references this going international. Just considering all angles...
 
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and what if you pay first one without proof of life and a plan in place to exchange NG for ransom and she isn't returned do you continue to pay random people hoping one is the right one, it would be beyond insanity to pay anything without knowing NG is alive and a solid negotiated plan is in place to exchange, which is why I don't see this is a kidnapping, the messages sent to media have never provided contact details so an exchange could be negotiated that we know of,
and the families messaging was initially asking whoever took NG to get in touch

Didn’t one of the ransom notes say that they would give info about the person who did it if monies were received? Thats not good enough and they can’t prove that in advance so that’s a hoax.
 
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can you imagine how many creepers there were before many people got cameras,
 
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I definitely don't think you're off base. I don't believe this was a stalker, mentally unstable Savannah fan or random crime. Whoever did this had some peripheral connection to Nancy.

For context, I live in a pretty well off area. Everyone in my cul-de-sac uses the same landscaper. Any suspicious cars are reported immediately. We all know who our 'regulars' are in terms of service workers. Circling back to Nancy, I find it hard to believe some random would be able to lurk on her street, unnoticed, enough times to get a feel for her living situation. Million dollar neighborhoods simply don't work like that.

She was put on the radar by someone who had been to that house, or someone in her orbit who may have unwittingly revealed information to some nefarious people. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my words, but that's the feeling I'm getting.
Same. Someone in her orbit either on a regular basis or even for a home service related issue who got a feel for the. layout of the home. Saw pictures of SG. Made the connection mentally. Someone detail oriented or even predatory asking her I hope you have camera's living out here alone in the dark. She may have innocently pointed out - oh yes, camera's inside and out. Then a plan was hatched.
MOO
 
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A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports.

RadarOnline.com can reveal insiders close to the case believe the 84-year-old's captors would be familiar with the inside of the 84-year-old's $1million home, given interior cameras were allegedly smashed during her kidnapping.

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone.
These cameras were likely VISIBLE—not hidden in toy dolls or bric-a-brac so yes—they could be seen and smashed—
Once again “Ashleigh Banfield’s” strikes…
So many of these articles aren’t offering anything new or really important. They are just feeding off the need to chum the news cycle IMO.
 
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Article written by a US reporter. "WILKO MARTÍNEZ-CACHERO, US REPORTER"

I would venture to say that many/most Aussies don't know who Savannah Guthrie is, let alone her mother Nancy.

imo
I think with the internet as it is this case is worldwide, I am in England and our news both online and off is full of the NG story,
 
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I think it depends on the fate of her mother. If her mother is found alive, the sunny Savannah morning show TV host works just fine, provided her closest family are cleared.

If her mother doesn't make it and/or family members are found to be involved, regardless of Savannah being able to show up and act the part, I think the audience would actually struggle with this.

Don't underestimate SG. If she has to take a more serious posture, she could easily re-focus on a less sunny role. I think she continues to succeed regardless, if she wants to work.

I think the notion of someone having her mother harmed to try to get her spot is special.
I could see Savannah doing programs like Tamron Hall starting doing after the murder of her sister.

Savannah is a warm and bubbly tv personality and I hope she returns to the Today Show.

Prayers for Nancy's return.

Jmo
 
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I think with the internet as it is this case is worldwide, I am in England and our news both online and off is full of the NG story,

Of course, most of the media just repeats worldwide media. We have this case being published in our conglomerate media. I don't know how much it is being read, because US news media personalities are not well known here.

My point was, that DM article was not told by an Aussie. Just a correction to an assumption.
 
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Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation​

FBI and local authorities conducted a major operation in connection to the Nancy Guthrie case, as at least three people were detained and a vehicle was hauled off. The 84-year-old mother of NBC "Today" host Savannah Guthrie has been missing for two weeks.


WHAT TO KNOW​

  • A Pima County SWAT team and the FBI executed a search warrant at a Tucson-area residence late Friday approximately two miles from Nancy Guthrie's home. At least three people were reportedly detained in connection to the operation, but none have been confirmed as suspects in Guthrie's disappearance.
  • Local authorities and FBI detained a man following a traffic stop in a Culver's restaurant parking lot in Tucson in connection to the warrant served on the nearby home, sources told Fox News Digital. A gray Range Rover was searched and towed from the parking lot.
  • The FBI released a description of the suspect seen in a mask and gloves tampering with the doorbell camera in front of Nancy Guthrie's home in the early morning hours of Feb. 1 around the time she went missing. The suspect is described as a male between 5'9” - 5'10” tall, with an average build and was seen carrying a 25-liter "Ozark Trail Hiker Pack" backpack


  • The FBI increased its reward to $100,000 for information leading to the location of Nancy Guthrie or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance. The search entered the two-week mark on Saturday, and authorities have yet to publicly name any suspects or persons of interest.

    FBI waiting for sheriff's lab results after several detained, released in overnight op: source​

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These cameras were likely VISIBLE—not hidden in toy dolls or bric-a-brac so yes—they could be seen and smashed—
Once again “Ashleigh Banfield’s” strikes…
So many of these articles aren’t offering anything new or really important. They are just feeding off the need to chum the news cycle IMO.
Agree and there's been no confirmation of the condition of any interior cameras.
 
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Besides the house a few days ago & last night, have other search warrants been issued? For example, was Annie’s home searched with a warrant or just searched with permission? (Not implying, I just don’t know the answer to this) I’ve decided to go back to my original thoughts.(and most likely MANY peoples’s original thoughts).
IMO, She was taken by someone whom she knows or by someone hired by someone she knows. She isn’t far. Her medicine is with her & this blew up bigger than expected & now they are stuck. I’m sticking with this.They say the majority of crime happens because of money, sex, or drugs. I’ve eliminated 2 of those in this case. This was intended to be easy peasy, get the $ and run, not kill her etc. and now they don’t know what to do. I wish the media & circus of people would just go home. It might give the captors the breathing room to let her go.

I think it was a stranger and a targeted abduction. I think this guy as he walks towards the entrance turns his head in case there was a motion sensing light. When he realized there wasnt a motion sensing light he proceeds to disable the camera. He probably didn’t understand the different kinds of home surveillance cameras and felt the pitch black darkness would mask his identity even with a camera in his face. If a light came on he would have been out of there.

I think this guy lives nearby by himself. Perhaps in an apartment building. He probably has a seasonal job like construction or is a contractor that allows him to go a good while without being missed by an employer.

What the motive was for the abduction is anybody’s guess. Could be retribution. Maybe political.

The time spent on the property after the camera was disabled is probably the perpetrator creeping to his break in point. Then breaking in depending on the method used, then he has to clear rooms and navigate through a house he’s unfamiliar with. Then he restrains NG, takes her out to his vehicle. Goes back inside and retraces his steps to make sure he didn’t leave anything behind not realizing he left some dna.

For all we know he’s already dead and nobody knows because again, he’s a loner and currently not working.

MOO
 

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