AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[detectivewannab]

They check way past a 100 mile radius. They check entire database systems. They specifically have superior access to data.

Walmart always get them!

 

[BellaToothless]

One would think. But that's also an assumption. After a while you stop checking in, you start ignoring push alerts. The subscription wasn't on the external cams. Why wasn't that paid, probably a lapse or oversight.

We don't know. At this point I am most interested in the inside of the crime scene, the situation with any alarm or other interior security, the supposed signs of forced entry that we are not clear about, and all that.

The article quoting an insider states they were strategically able to smash the cameras before the motion detected them and streamed or saved etc. and so if they’re smashed now no one can check remotely - if true.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

In the CNN interview with Sheriff Nanos, he states that there were multiple cameras in Nancy's house and data/video is trying to be retrieved from them.

Sheriff in Guthrie case: ‘we have DNA,’ ‘don’t know whose it is’ | CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/13/us/video/ebof-ed-lavandera-nancy-guthrie-sheriff-nanos-interview

Your posted link didn't work but I think separating the text like I've done here will make it functional.

I saw the Sheriff nod when Ed Lavandera asked about "other cameras in the house" but my sense of the phrasing of the question and the Sheriff's intentionally vague response is that we don't know for sure if the additional cameras are IN the house or AT the house (meaning they could be additional exterior cameras). It was clear to me that there are more cameras than the front door one, and that Google is trying to extract video from the other(s). But specifically whether they were indoors or in the back yard or back door or what, wasn't definitively made clear as I interpret it. MOO

 

[cait2007]

I don't have a pool. Could the pool cleaner vacuumed the bottom of the pool for evidence?

JMO as I don't know.

I have a pool and live in a warmer climate in CA. I think the pool was ruled out and they allowed the cleaners to do their job with LE supervision. Pools are a pain to take care of and can quickly get filled with algae from debris. Maintaining chemicals is important and it’s costly if they aren’t maintained properly and consistently. I don’t think it’s a big deal for the pool cleaners to do the outside job they were contracted to do. JMO.

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

I want to make a comment that is MY option only. Mods, feel free to delete if you think i am out of line.

When I saw the statement from the sheriff saying Nancy might not be found “for years”it made my blood boil. Nancy doesn’t have years!!!

Some people are just insane. i mean, who would say that? if i came up missing at my age and i thought the sheriff said that about me and then said he was exhausted I would think he has given up. If I could do so right now, I would grab him by the ear and make him squeal. The nerve of that man!

It implies he believes she is deceased, which unfortunately I think is very likely the case, but yeah, it is incredibly insensitive to declare that publicly.

Unless it is a ploy to make the perps think they are home free.

 

[Bodhi]

source or opinion?

Opinion of "sources close to the case believe." It's clickbait, IMO, from RadarOnline republished by AOL. The headline and opening sentence call in a theory. It doesn't provide context for insiders' relationship to the victims or investigation, so it's difficult to weigh the opinions.

The article then goes on to quote two experts with no involvement in this case. They are named and quoted in coverage often. It's easier to evaluate informed opinion but it is still opinion.

 

[wibbleflea]

I don’t believe there is nothing to show for last nights raids yet.

Same here. This is just an opinion, so far*, but I there are potentially good reasons to believe that the detailed searches were useful. I was disappointed and surprised by the early news today, talking only about people being released without arrest. Later wording was more nuanced, though.

* Sometimes, information from sources other than mainstream media and LE turns out to be valid.

 

[BellaToothless]

I don’t know. Your theory’s motive is money? That supposed ransom came much later and it didn’t make sense. Ransoms are delivered immediately to the family. They tell them not to contact authorities or they’ll hurt their loved one. Who sends a ransom to the media immediately alerting authorities? On top of that, who writes that you’ll never hear from them, the perp or perps, again?

If this was a gang initiation, you don’t take a body with you.

Did they ever confirm that nothing was stolen from the house? Have they ruled out robbery?

Have not heard a peep official or otherwise that robbery was also involved. I agree. It’s perplexing and the ransoms did not make sense.

 

[Sarahlou]

I want to make a comment that is MY option only. Mods, feel free to delete if you think i am out of line.

When I saw the statement from the sheriff saying Nancy might not be found “for years”it made my blood boil. Nancy doesn’t have years!!!

Some people are just insane. i mean, who would say that? if i came up missing at my age and i thought the sheriff said that about me and then said he was exhausted I would think he has given up. If I could do so right now, I would grab him by the ear and make him squeal. The nerve of that man!

I don't think he actually believes she's alive. But he probably should have kept those thoughts to himself for now about being exhausted and it maybe taking years. It still feels quite early days to be that negative about it possibly taking so long for her to be found.

 

[white rabbit]

i'm sure this has been posted but it's an excellent article, and gives a lot of insight into NG, her life, her past, her hobbies, etc...scroll down to the 'second' article. all about what she loved (and how a neighbor recently had to help her get her mail). details i haven't seen in almost 1500 pages of posts...ignore if already seen.

Nancy Guthrie Live Updates: Authorities Say No One in Custody After Search Warrant Served

www.nytimes.com

 

[fridaybaker]

I want to make a comment that is MY option only. Mods, feel free to delete if you think i am out of line.

When I saw the statement from the sheriff saying Nancy might not be found “for years”it made my blood boil. Nancy doesn’t have years!!!

Some people are just insane. i mean, who would say that? if i came up missing at my age and i thought the sheriff said that about me and then said he was exhausted I would think he has given up. If I could do so right now, I would grab him by the ear and make him squeal. The nerve of that man!

Yes, this sheriff is a walking, talking, gaffe-machine.

 

[stmichael]

The article quoting an insider states they were strategically able to smash the cameras before the motion detected them and streamed or saved etc. and so if they’re smashed now no one can check remotely - if true.

Sure but they'll capture him approaching the cameras and smashing them and send a person detected motion to their phones before he can disable them (JUST like it did with the Nest cam outside at the front door).

He didn't teleport to right under the cams and start smashing them. You should see and capture his approach from across the room even before the smashing. I believe it infers he evaded motion detection and smashed them but I don't buy that. Again, if these residential cams are not optimized, and motion detection zones are poor (most people don't even configure it in the app) then you'll have blind spots and less than optimal camera detection (which is the downfall of a lot of these DIY systems like Ring, Nest, Simplisafe, etc.)

 

[EyeCandy]

possibly Walmart will solve the crime if indeed all the purchases were made there. I am tending to believe it is a homeless person, perhaps using one of those free places that give out stuff to homeless people. How he procured the gun is another story but a lot of crime is commited with people who steal guns, trade for one, etc. I think it's a crime of opportunity. Perhaps on a bicycle with perhaps a cart on the back ... ... the body is not far ... I think when he comes back without the backpack is when he got her out of the house and took the body away. Thats just my theory...that desert above her house would be probably something homeless people are quite aware of ...

 

[joe jones]

Your posted link didn't work but I think separating the text like I've done here will make it functional.

I saw the Sheriff nod when Ed Lavandera asked about "other cameras in the house" but my sense of the phrasing of the question and the Sheriff's intentionally vague response is that we don't know for sure if the additional cameras are IN the house or AT the house (meaning they could be additional exterior cameras). It was clear to me that there are more cameras than the front door one, and that Google is trying to extract video from the other(s). But specifically whether they were indoors or in the back yard or back door or what, wasn't definitively made clear as I interpret it. MOO

there has to be a second camera somewhere for it to have detected the motion that the Sheriff referenced after the front door camera was removed,

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

one of the major factors for me not seeing this as a targeted kidnapping is you would want to keep NG alive and comfortable in order to get your ransom, if targeted you would know what medications she took and you would have taken them with her, would have taken her hearing aids (I haven't heard anything from LE confirming if they were taken with her or left behind),
by not taking her medications you are at risk of her health declining and she may die without her medications, we do not know exactly what she took and how important it was to keep her alive,

Could be kidnapping with intent to murder and not a ransom intent. The ransom letters could be part of a plan to make it look like a classic kidnap for ransom when the intent was something entirely different.

You’re right, if it’s a kidnap for ransom, meds are being taken. Proof of life would have been provided.

If it’s a burglary gone wrong and it’s a stranger, the perpetrators runs off.

If it’s a burglary where the perp is known to Nancy and he realizes she can identify him, he’s taking her out then and there. He’s not taking her with him.

I just think if this guy was working or living with people or had friends, You’d think he’d abruptly leave after following the news and that would lead to somebody calling in with a tip.

There’s still no be on the lookout for this vehicle like in the kohberger case. This guy is/was nearby. IMO.

 

[SlimPickens]

No it doesnt. it doesnt say the FBI TOOK THE LEAD. THEY CAN use their resources when applicable, However. If you can find anywhere that is says the FBI has taken the lead, please advise. moo

A federal warrant confirms federal jurisdiction of a case and subsequent federal administration/facilitation of that case in which the warrant was issued. The Sheriff himself offered that the warrant was regarding the Guthrie kidnapping case.

If federal jurisdiction is asserted and confirmed, as it was here with a federal warrant, then by definition it supersedes any state agency's authority on the same or similar matter. A statement or media declaration isn't necessary to defend my assertion - any high school civics book will do.

Does that mean they aren't working together in much the same fashion? No. It just means they've switched roles, and that state and local authorities are now supporting federal authorities on the evolving nature of this case. If a federal judge issued a warrant and they were looking for Nancy Guthrie, her kidnappers, or signs of her within the execution of that warrant, then federal kidnapping laws have now been deemed germane, have now been applied, and have now assumed jurisdiction in this case.

Can the case go back to a state case? Sure, if the feds ultimately determine that the kidnapping doesn't contain the requisite elements that makes it a federal crime. But as of now they clearly do believe that it does and they have compelling evidence of such, as the federal judge who signed the federal warrant confirmed.

Further, the Sheriff's overnight scheduled press conference being snuffed "at the request of the FBI" pretty much as soon as it was announced is another strong indicator of who is now leading this investigation.

JMO.

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

The article states that .. not me lol. She never collected her own mail either, she had to have help. It points out that her mobility was indeed quite limited. I have had 5 femur surgeries and I can still walked to the mailbox. I just wonder exactly what limited her mobility to the point she could barely walk. Osteoporosis I have but it's treated with infusions, back issues I know are mobility limiting issues.

Has anyone read an articles that stated exactly what her mobility issues were from? age related, a fall, surgeries, etc.

I have not found one yet

Apologies, I read it as your own words!

 

[SMK777]

I have seen quite a few posts through this thread commenting on Nancy’s personality - she was sharp as a tack, she is a feisty lady, nobody’s fool type comments and what a wonderful, lovely person she is. We don’t actually know what she is like as a person, I just find it a bit odd a whole personality is being made up.

I believe most of those statements were taken from articles quoting her family and friends.

 

[jbennett]

They really need to explain themselves , the train of thought they are on, because its making them look incompetent

same

Respectfully, LE do not owe the public any kind of explanation. We have no idea what they are working off of or what led them to treat the situation Friday like they did, nor should we.
I’m sure, besides the family, no one wants to get to the bottom of this more than the officers and agents working nonstop through this mess.

 

[Donswife48]

It was reported strategically for purposes of knowing if she has fallen. Not for security but would know if she fell. I wouldn’t necessarily presume bathroom even though that is a high fall place. I do not have 1 in the bathroom for 90yo mother but more aimed at spaces on floor she might fall. Similar to what’s described.

The Apple watch which NG had, has fall protection. It works well and is reliable. JMO