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Because maybe the FBI hired the pool company, or asked the family to do so, in order for the pool filters to be cleaned and inspected. Possibly they collected the contents of the pool filter(s) so that LE could evaluate the material foresically.

I suspect LE would need to rely on pool experts to accomplish that filter cleaning task. And the story they told of just a pool 'cleaning' was to keep the activity quiet consistent with the investigation.
It was in the Sheriffs statement yesterday that the family requested the regular pool cleaning continued.
 
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Sher

Pool guys in Tucson don't go in the house. Usually they enter through the back or side yard in the back. MO
In general, people rarely interact with pool people.
 
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We used to do a signal that we got in okay. We would flash the porch light to family dropping us off. Could be something like that, or she texted to SIL, and then closed the garage. She likely would need to unlock door from garage to home too. Two minutes doesn't seem like a long time between pull up, open garage, say good bye, get things from car(maybe leftovers), and do the above that I mentioned.
I think it also depends on which family member dropped her off. If my husband dropped my mom off, it would be a task that he did and things would be fine. If I dropped my mom off, I’m sure I would put a little more effort into it, and there would be a little bit more chitchatting.
 
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The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.
I’m commenting on the idea that her daughter or SIL harmed her before she ever made it home. You can’t take a bleeding person out the front door if they were never in the house to begin with.
 
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Reminds me of a suggestion I saw elsewhere…to put Nancy’s phone in a drone and fly it around Tucson to see if it would connect with her pacemaker since it acts as a “homing beacon”.

Wild 🤣
I think 6 to 10 ft is the maximum range from a smart phone with Bluetooth enabled pacemakers.
 
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The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.
I think your idea is a good possibility!
 
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I don’t understand the fascination 120 seconds for the garage.

Do you have a garage? Time it. It takes ~15 seconds for a standard residential garage door to open. That gives NG a minute and 45 seconds to walk into the garage and hit the button to close it.

A minute and 45 seconds to walk a couple car lengths into the garage is an eternity. It would take a fully able person 5 seconds. There’s no reason to think NG couldn’t shuffle into the garage within the reported time. There’s nothing “cold” or suspicious about it. MOO

Yah, this has been needlessly discussed too many times imo

In footage shown by Brian Entin when Agents were looking in her garage it was apparent there was room for another car to drive right in there (double - plenty of room beside her sub)

So then she just had to take a few steps to internal access door as car dropping her off reverses out.

It's not suspicious, not a red flag, imo
 
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Has there been any mention, or does anyone happen to know: On what day of the week is garbage collection in that area?
They were doing ground searches almost two weeks after the crime. Evidence could just as easily have been tossed into one of the trash cans in the neighborhood. Hope they checked garbage cans before contents went to a landfill.
 
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Actually, Uber is a common mode of transport for those with limited mobility.

I know at least 2 Medicare Advantage insurance companies with many insured members in my area. Both routinely send Uber's to those with limited mobility. Many doctors also offer this service. In fact, this is so popular Uber has specialized in health-related transport.

Medical transportation or medical contracted transportation is a whole different product than normal Uber.
 
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The Range Rover does seem to be the most promising lead so far. I know they said the driver was cooperative and they did not end up arresting him.

But what did they find or see that caused them to search it, photograph it, seal it for evidence and then tow it away? Would that happen if it were just a nothing burger? It didn’t happen with the Rio Rico incident.

Hopefully they’re in the process of checking any DNA they found in it against Nancy’s and any other DNA found in relation to this case.

So they are saying he is the prime suspect but had to release him (for now). It is now commonly known who the registered owner of the Range Rover is.....so maybe existing evidence is weak but they are hoping for more?
 
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You didn’t include a link about a former FBI agent saying the abduction appeared to be staged.

But are you referring to this news report below? Because it was the security video of the masked man that the former FBI agent wonders might’ve been staged, not the abduction and there is a difference.

I agree with this former agent’s assessment of the video. It’s hokey and too amateurish considering what they were able to actually pull off.
 
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Someone who can "barely walk" isn't using Uber regularly, as NG did.
That requires someone be able to walk to the vehicle, get in and out of vehicles of varying heights and walk to their destination. The destination may be close, but she's still managing with just a cane.

I don't think it much matters whether or not she regularly got her own mail. She had household help during the day. I'm sure they could do that for her if she asked them to.
I read an article that said NG sometimes picked up her grandson and watched him, so it could be she still drove at times. A lot of times, at schools the parent or designated picker-upper just needs to drive up to the school, not even needing to park or get out of the car. At least, that’s how it was when mine were school age.

As for the mail: May sound weird, but who knows—maybe she could even get in the car and drive the short distance to her mailbox on her ”bad days”, when she thought it too hard to walk the path to the mailbox.

jmo
 
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Medical transportation or medical contracted transportation is a whole different product than normal Uber.
Please refer to the link I included in my post.
 
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The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.
I thought this as well. Particularly as there seemed to be no smears in the blood from shoes from the many pics posted. The shoes would have been only the perps in front of the blood dripping because she was over the perps shoulder.
 
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The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.
The interesting thing about the blood, is it’s almost all found on the right side of porch (if you’re facing the door). Definitely gives you an idea of the step pattern. After viewing the front door picture again I notice a dried floral wreath hanging on the left of the door. That would have been a better choice to conceal the camera. That doormat continues to bother me not knowing if it’s been there since day 1 and LE never took it into evidence.
 
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I had assumed that when the suspects had all been released, the Landrover and any other cars were released back to them. Am I hearing that is not the case?
 

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