AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[slowpoke]

Someone who can "barely walk" isn't using Uber regularly, as NG did.
That requires someone be able to walk to the vehicle, get in and out of vehicles of varying heights and walk to their destination. The destination may be close, but she's still managing with just a cane.

I don't think it much matters whether or not she regularly got her own mail. She had household help during the day. I'm sure they could do that for her if she asked them to.

I read an article that said NG sometimes picked up her grandson and watched him, so it could be she still drove at times. A lot of times, at schools the parent or designated picker-upper just needs to drive up to the school, not even needing to park or get out of the car. At least, that’s how it was when mine were school age.

As for the mail: May sound weird, but who knows—maybe she could even get in the car and drive the short distance to her mailbox on her ”bad days”, when she thought it too hard to walk the path to the mailbox.

jmo

 

[GatorFL]

Medical transportation or medical contracted transportation is a whole different product than normal Uber.

Please refer to the link I included in my post.

 

[WillenFan21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022860424878694497

 

[BellaToothless]

The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.

I thought this as well. Particularly as there seemed to be no smears in the blood from shoes from the many pics posted. The shoes would have been only the perps in front of the blood dripping because she was over the perps shoulder.

 

[Wsimm]

The blood on the front walk looks consistent with someone carrying her over their shoulder while she had a potential nose bleed. The type of hold where your arm would hold behind their knees and they’re fully over your shoulder. Why there is more blood drops in one area, by the front door, could be because he waited there for a minute while someone brought the car into the driveway. Just an idea.

The interesting thing about the blood, is it’s almost all found on the right side of porch (if you’re facing the door). Definitely gives you an idea of the step pattern. After viewing the front door picture again I notice a dried floral wreath hanging on the left of the door. That would have been a better choice to conceal the camera. That doormat continues to bother me not knowing if it’s been there since day 1 and LE never took it into evidence.

 

[Marzipan]

I had assumed that when the suspects had all been released, the Landrover and any other cars were released back to them. Am I hearing that is not the case?

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022850249321046285

 

[iluvmyelement]

I had assumed that when the suspects had all been released, the Landrover and any other cars were released back to them. Am I hearing that is not the case?

All persons released, but Range Rover in custody and sheriff stated RR owner was their primary person of interest (and may still be).

 

[Chili Fries]

Ours uses wifi. I think the doctor has to setup the alerts. It's possible the kidnapper knew about the pacemaker device and unplugged it before awaking Nancy so her racing heart wouldn't send an alert.

From what I understand, this is how the wifi data transmission works but a bluetooth pacemaker checks its sync with a connected device every few minutes or so using short-range radio frequency communication. It's been reported that either the last sync or a failed sync between Nancy's pacemaker and her Apple smartwatch happened at 2:28 AM.

I think it's most likely that she simply moved out of range of her smart watch around that time. It was probably a little earlier by a few minutes since the sync checks only happen on those intervals, not continuously, to save pacemaker battery life. So she could have been removed from the area near her smart phone at 2:24 AM or anytime within those few minutes.

 

[VenturaJen]

I had assumed that when the suspects had all been released, the Landrover and any other cars were released back to them. Am I hearing that is not the case?

Yes, not so. Released not arrested but not out of the clear until forensic is back.

 

[VenturaJen]

All persons released, but Range Rover in custody and sheriff stated RR owner was their primary person of interest (and may still be).

Exactly, being released is not cleared. Evidence needs to be evaluated.

 

[iluvmyelement]

Brian Entin's latest post sure is interesting! (About using a sniffer to find Nancy's pacemaker)

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Anyone with more knowledge on the matter have timeframe estimates for “forensics” results. I imagine it varies, but hours, days, weeks?

 

[Fargo]

This sounds like what I was discussing in cloning her encrypted pacemaker info to track…even if the pacemaker is limited in its ability to put out a pulse (due to battery), a “handshake” from her device to another may be enough to find her…especially if there is a Bluetooth Boost.

I'm intrigued. I wonder how powerful this signal sniffer is? The pacemaker rf signal is very weak (intentionally; to preserve battery) and only transmits a few feet to your bedside monitor or phone app. I wonder what they have?

Not that the FBI would tell me. IMO

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

I'm not familiar with the area, but there have been posters that say there are many abandoned mines in the area close by. Maybe they just took her there instead of buried. JMO

Or … If she did pass, intentionally killed or not, perp could have set her body on fire out in the open desert somewhere (as happened in Ben’s case).

We are truly lucky someone happened upon Ben while his body was still on fire, or I doubt if anyone would have ever found him (or it would have been potentially a very, very long time).

IF perp did this to Nancy, I think it would prove very difficult to locate her. JMO

Of course I hope and pray this is not the case.

 

[Eli9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022860424878694497

Incredible!

Seriously technology is amazing and increasing at rapid speed.

Happy to see it utilized in this case.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

From what I understand, this is how the wifi data transmission works but a bluetooth pacemaker checks its sync with a connected device every few minutes or so using short-range radio frequency communication. It's been reported that either the last sync or a failed sync between Nancy's pacemaker and her Apple smartwatch happened at 2:28 AM.

I think it's most likely that she simply moved out of range of her smart watch around that time. It was probably a little earlier by a few minutes since the sync checks only happen on those intervals, not continuously, to save pacemaker battery life. So she could have been removed from the area near her smart phone at 2:24 AM or anytime within those few minutes.

@Fargo was reporting earlier that some pacemakers only check in with their device once a day or even less often. Perhaps there are many different setups varying depending on technology or the patient's details? It doesn't seem like we know enough to say whether NG's would check in every few minutes or once daily or what.

Although, if they are really trying to fly a helicopter over Tucson with a sniffer device, they must at least hope that hers is sending out more frequent attempts to connect.

All MOO

 

[Turkeytrot]

Anyone with more knowledge on the matter have timeframe estimates for “forensics” results. I imagine it varies, but hours, days, weeks?

This article speculates "sometime Saturday" but we will see

"TUCSON, AZ (AZFamily) — The FBI is holding off on providing an update in the Nancy Guthrie case until evidence testing results are returned, a source tells Arizona’s Family true crime correspondent Briana Whitney.

The inside source said that details about Friday night’s operations are being withheld pending those results. Once they come in, expected sometime Saturday, the FBI plans to release new information on the direction of the investigation."


Source: FBI awaits evidence testing; sheriff reports no signs of Nancy Guthrie Source: FBI awaits evidence testing; sheriff reports no signs of Nancy Guthrie

 

[Eli9]

I'm intrigued. I wonder how powerful this signal sniffer is? The pacemaker rf signal is very weak (intentionally; to preserve battery) and only transmits a few feet to your bedside monitor or phone app. I wonder what they have?

Not that the FBI would tell me. IMO

Maybe something on a tether where applicable? IDK

 

[VenturaJen]

@Fargo was reporting earlier that some pacemakers only check in with their device once a day or even less often. Perhaps there are many different setups varying depending on technology or the patient's details? It doesn't seem like we know enough to say whether NG's would check in every few minutes or once daily or what.

Although, if they are really trying to fly a helicopter over Tucson with a sniffer device, they must at least hope that hers is sending out more frequent attempts to connect.

All MOO

I hope this how she is found.