• #29,861
For those who may have mistakenly claimed the Sheriff has cleared NG's family members (e.g., AG & SIL) I disagree.

Consider the following:
What date was this? His eyes as soon as he’s asked the question tell a bit of a story IMO
 
  • #29,862
So Tricia.

Sounds like writing something like "As reported by Ashleigh Banfield" or "As reported by Nancy Grace" or "As reported by Brian Entin" might not be sufficient without a link?

Please explain.

P.S.
Assuming if you are posting a link to their comment or video, this passes.
Fromthe WS rules Rules - Etiquette & Information:
NOTE: When quoting an outside source, a link to the source must be included in the post. The same rule applies to posting images. All images require a link to the source.

When discussing video content, a link must be provided to the source and also include an approximate timestamp so that other members and Websleuths staff don't have to wade through hours of content to find what is being discussed.
Websleuths is fact based, which means that other members have to be given the opportunity to check/verify a source themselves, and a "As reported by ..." doesn't give them that opportunity.
 
  • #29,863
I think the Sheriff is a bit 'old school'. Doing things his own way and 'no one' is going to stand in his way. They had 4,000 leads in 24 hours after surveillance footage was released. I hope they are using AI on some of it to 'knit' things together.
 
  • #29,864
One reason among many I'd love to join you in Australia.

Security cameras are not ubiquitous where I live, but the cheapness of the technology means it is becoming more common in spite of low incidence of crime. None of my friends or family have security systems or doorbell cameras. My mother, living independently in her 90s, would never allow us to monitor her. We all have locks on the door. That's it. I can't imagine putting cameras inside my house or using a smart speaker. Babycams only became common after my kids were teens. The idea that parents use one past infancy bothers me. The child has a right to privacy. Much like NG, we got an inexpensive trail camera during the Covid lockdown so we could watch the birds and wildlife.

I don't think people appreciate the ramifications of pervasive surveillance in public spaces and the potential for misuse. The federal government has deployed facial recognition technology, and agents are telling citizens they're building a database of dissidents. Nest maintained it didn't record activity unless the user subscribed. Because of this crime, we've learned it records anyway. The user can't access the recordings without subscribing but obviously the company can. Someone posted here that she'd let her doorbell camera subscription lapse. Months later, she renewed it and all the video from the period it supposedly was not recording popped up.
Years ago (so I'm not going to link it), Doctor Phil did a session on how even baby monitors can be easily hacked. That is modern technology for you. Nothing seems to be private any more.
 
  • #29,865
For me, to answer that is difficult because, sadly, I do not believe Ms Guthrie is still with us...so, imo, it won't happen.

Hypothetically, naturally it'll set a precedent and I'd imagine it will be copied to some extent. Where I live, USA is already viewed as crime ridden so, it'll just be one more variant of society.

I think it's too hard to hold hostages and it takes an enterprise. Also, kidnap and murder? in the U.S. means a possible death sentence.
 
  • #29,866
Why would NG bleed and why would blood be outside? Carried out in a poorly sealed tarp? Confronted someone at the door? Blood placed there? Probably the biggest risk of perp getting noticed was her screaming or someone hearing a gun shot. Perhaps the gun worn in front was so it could be seen to instill fear. Gloves under gloves provides no dexterity or ability to shoot. That’s why he didn’t cover the camera with tape. he had to grab something he could manage. Then he probably just pushed it off. it possibly kept recording because he didn’t have the ability to remove the battery. So therefore his only purpose was to grab her and carry her out or make her walk out.
 
  • #29,867
Why would NG bleed and why would blood be outside? Carried out in a poorly sealed tarp? Confronted someone at the door? Blood placed there? Probably the biggest risk of perp getting noticed was her screaming or someone hearing a gun shot. Perhaps the gun worn in front was so it could be seen to instill fear. Gloves under gloves provides no dexterity or ability to shoot. That’s why he didn’t cover the camera with tape. he had to grab something he could manage. Then he probably just pushed it off. it possibly kept recording because he didn’t have the ability to remove the battery. So therefore his only purpose was to grab her and carry her out or make her walk out.
I don’t think she would have walked out silently. I think she was likely knocked out/stunned inside by someone other than door camera man and then he has helped remove her after disabling the camera. I think the blood drops are from either her nose or a head injury as she was carried out. Obviously all JMO
 
  • #29,868
How is it possible that the feds can’t track down the sender of the emails? We are focused on the “recovered” video footage. Also what about the roof camera?
This shocks me. It should not take this long or be this difficult. They need to build a relationships with tech.
 
  • #29,869
What date was this? His eyes as soon as he’s asked the question tell a bit of a story IMO

I think I watched that 2 days ago and it had not long been uploaded, so... recent.

Do you have an opinion what that story is ?

Mine is that because he doesn't perform well in interview/presser situations and because he's previously mis-spoken and been criticised... he is highly vigilant over what he's saying so I can't read him. What I see is him thinking hard how to phrase what he needs to say. I also think he has a reasonably expressive face so I expect eye darting and head movements. Just what I see.
 
  • #29,870
Forgive me, my brain's so overloaded. What is significant about January 11th?
If you open that x link it says “The crucial times are from 10 p.m. on January 11 to 1 a.m. on January 12 and from 11 p.m. on January 31 to 4 a.m. on February 1. This footage could be critical to the investigation, authorities said.”

A message from Ring neighbors app earlier this week listed the Jan 11 date but then LE said that the message wasn’t from officials and was from someone random, and to look for Jan 1-Feb 2. Now it seems like they actually were interested in Jan 11 specifically. Could be someone casing NG’s house or something like that, imo.

 
  • #29,871
Is the house that was raided last night within this perimeter?
Yes, but it’s so close to NG’s house that it wouldn’t make sense not to be included. AG and SIL’s house is also within the perimeter. MOO
 
  • #29,872
I don't know whether any of the band members are involved or not but I do know that their music is horrible.
This made me laugh..and I have to agree..
 
  • #29,873
In your opinion, if the ransom is paid, NG is released, and the kidnappers get away with millions in bitcoin, would this trigger a wave of copycat kidnappings in the USA?
This⬆️⬆️ has been weighing on my mind for days. I feel that, no matter the outcome of this case, it may prompt some to consider this idea. Abduction seems all too common these days. Children and adults go missing. FBI crime data shows almost 2,300 people are reported missing every day in the US. While 98% of these cases are resolved quickly, 2% are not.
Common reasons for reported disappearances include runaways, parental abductions, and individuals with cognitive impairments or mental health crises.
 
  • #29,874
A banner with a growing collection of well-wishes from supporters reads 'bring her home' (not pictured) and shows a photo of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of US journalist and television host Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home nearly two weeks ago (Image: Reuters)'bring her home' (not pictured) and shows a photo of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of US journalist and television host Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home nearly two weeks ago (Image: Reuters)
A banner with a growing collection of well-wishes from supporters reads 'bring her home' (not pictured) and shows a photo of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of US journalist and television host Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home nearly two weeks ago (Image

The Federal Bureau Of Investigation (FBI) stated that it has received over 13,000 tips since February 1. Meanwhile, the Pima County Sheriff’s Department said it has handled at least 18,000 calls related to the case

Nancy's longtime friend, Jacqueline Sharkey, described the 84-year-old as a steady, unifying presence in the groups she belongs to, including her church and local advocacy organizations. Speaking on CNN's AC360, Sharkey said Guthrie’s disappearance has created a “tremendous tear in the fabric of the community

Authorities have employed a high-tech Bluetooth scanner mounted on the undersides of law enforcement helicopters to detect Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker signal, Fox News report noted, adding that the helicopters typically fly at low altitudes in grid patterns and at a slow speed to capture these signals.
Do we know what advocacy groups she was in? Could that have triggered somebody? First I'm hearing of this.
 
  • #29,875
Yes, but it’s so close to NG’s house that it wouldn’t make sense not to be included. AG and SIL’s house is also within the perimeter. MOO
They give specific street names of interest. I wonder if anyone local can deduce anything from those streets/route
 
  • #29,876
Why would NG bleed and why would blood be outside? Carried out in a poorly sealed tarp? Confronted someone at the door? Blood placed there? Probably the biggest risk of perp getting noticed was her screaming or someone hearing a gun shot. Perhaps the gun worn in front was so it could be seen to instill fear. Gloves under gloves provides no dexterity or ability to shoot. That’s why he didn’t cover the camera with tape. he had to grab something he could manage. Then he probably just pushed it off. it possibly kept recording because he didn’t have the ability to remove the battery. So therefore his only purpose was to grab her and carry her out or make her walk out.
Why would she bleed? Because she tried to defend self or get away to safety. My 80 year old relative punched 70ish male neighbor when he tried to get in her home uninvited. She said it was instant reaction, she didn’t think about her age or futility of her punch.
When LE got involved, neighbor said he wanted to help her hang Christmas lights. Sadly, police didn’t take it seriously (police chided her for punching him) and we helped her move asap as the situation was tense and confusing. Neighbor had been doing odd things in lead up to try to push past her to get into her home. She never talked to this guy nor invited him to hang lights.
IMO NG instantly reacted and tried to flee and the criminals subdued her, not considering the frailty of 84 yr old.
 
  • #29,877
I think I watched that 2 days ago and it had not long been uploaded, so... recent.

Do you have an opinion what that story is ?

Mine is that because he doesn't perform well in interview/presser situations and because he's previously mis-spoken and been criticised... he is highly vigilant over what he's saying so I can't read him. What I see is him thinking hard how to phrase what he needs to say. I also think he has a reasonably expressive face so I expect eye darting and head movements. Just what I see.
I think he didn’t want to answer the question and I think it’s very interesting that 14 odd days in he still won’t say the family has been cleared.

I do honestly hope they aren’t involved though for the rest of the family’s sake
 
  • #29,878
What power do old folks wield? Power of the pen. You can’t change your will if you are not able to sign it or assign a power of attorney. Perhaps a decree of tough love was expressed.
 
  • #29,879
I'm posting this for those who may have missed it. Brian Entin is speaking with a retired FBI agent—lots of good information/explanation about the case.
Couldn't agree more.

Brian Entin hits another home run.

One of the best -- if not the best -- reports since poor Nancy Guthrie went missing.

Also, a tip-of-the hat to retired FBI agent Steve Moore who was also very impressive.

 
  • #29,880
They give specific street names of interest. I wonder if anyone local can deduce anything from those streets/route
Well they list Roller Coaster Rd as a west barrier but then list La Cholla as well, which is further west. Roller Coaster is just past AGs house. (But the map photo boundary does go to La Cholla).

It also includes a few miles west of NG’s house but doesn’t go east of her house much at all.

My opinion only.
 
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