AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[diggndeeperstill]

Why would they release that dna was back and now they will run through CODIS? Why wouldn’t that be almost instantaneous?

Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers | CODIS Hierarchy

Learn more about Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers with an emphasis on Partial Matches, specifically, CODIS Hierarchy.

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[Cool Cats]

DNA of unknown male profile lifted from glove found near Guthrie home

abcnews.com

Nancy Guthrie live updates: DNA of unknown male profile lifted from glove found near Guthrie home​

"We’ve gotten DNA back," Nanos said. "So that's of use. Now [we] have to go through and try to eliminate people or make people."

The sheriff’s department sent the gloves to a private lab for analysis in Florida on Thursday evening and they arrived at the laboratory on Friday, according to the FBI.

The FBI received preliminary results from the laboratory on Saturday and was awaiting quality control and official confirmation on Sunday before putting the unknown male profile into a national database unique to the bureau, known as the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), the FBI said. This process typically takes 24 hours from when the bureau receives DNA, according to the FBI.

 

[submarine7]

Seems like you would have to take the light out of your mouth at some point and put some DNA on a glove. MOO

Yes!

 

[whitelilac]

Glove’s preliminary forensic results mark ‘breakthrough’ in Guthrie case: retired NYPD lieutenant​

Retired NYPD Lt. Dr. Darrin Porcher called preliminary forensic results tied to a recovered glove “truly a breakthrough” in the Nancy Guthrie case, saying the DNA profile could move the investigation forward.

"It’s truly a breakthrough in the case. The DNA will go into the CODIS database, and I’m hopeful a match will occur. If unsuccessful, we can go the genealogical route to match secondary DNA through family members which was a success in the [Bryan] Kohberger case," Porcher said. "On another note, the private sector has the ability to create an image of a person based on DNA."

Nancy Guthrie latest: Task force awaits forensic results as search enters third week

Nancy Guthrie went missing two weeks ago after being kidnapped from her home in Tucson, Arizona. Authorities have yet to publicly name any suspects or persons of interest.

www.foxnews.com

Hopefully

 

[stmichael]

Those are common nitrile disposable gloves in the most common color used.. There is no indicator from the grainy cam footage that can match them (logo, SN, model, etc. they don't have those). Workers on a job usually use the same box, sometimes take them off and re-glove, throwing the gloves like a kleenex.

There is no definitive way they can tell from the footage whether they were latex, vinyl, butyl or nitrile.. We know NG had workers at the house recently. It is quite possible many of them used such glove, likely even. They get strewn about and blown in the wind, the blow out on the side of roads along w/ other contractor debris.

I think they are hoping for a DNA hit in case with such a blindspot of data, and hoping to "reverse engineer" that DNA to a potential suspect who is not yet on their radar.

If I was Nest man, I would have plastic bagged my whole kit after the job and incinerated it. Fire pit, burn barrel, an old bbq smoker, heck even a campfire--all likely common and accessible in the AZ night. It would be the bare minimum effort and require minutes to do, even as an amateur.

 

[submarine7]

Why would they release that dna was back and now they will run through CODIS? Why wouldn’t that be almost instantaneous?

Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers | CODIS Hierarchy

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Bureaucracy, they stated they had to wait for proper approvals etc.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Why would they release that dna was back and now they will run through CODIS? Why wouldn’t that be almost instantaneous?

Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers | CODIS Hierarchy

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It's a weird little soap opera they are making.

This is like having a press conference for a cup of tea steeping.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

It is not uncommon for articles taken from a crime scene to be scattered along a roadway.
We have a picture of a suspect with a black glove on Nancy’s front porch on the night she disappeared.
You have a dilemma. What would you do in the immediate aftermath of the crime? If you are found with a black glove matching what is seen on the camera footage and it contains Nancy’s dna, you are likely in deep doo doo.
If you throw the glove out the window and it has Nancy’s dna, you have to be confident that you didn’t leave any trace evidence that would lead back to you.
Which would you pick?

If you have a kidnapped person in your car, also having gloves in the car is the least of your worries.

That said:

3) Keep a can in the car of something to dissolve the gloves.

 

[Fargo]

Why would they release that dna was back and now they will run through CODIS? Why wouldn’t that be almost instantaneous?

Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers | CODIS Hierarchy

Learn more about Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers with an emphasis on Partial Matches, specifically, CODIS Hierarchy.

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It's not an FBI lab. It's a private lab in Florida.

 

[stmichael]

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Glove’s preliminary forensic results mark ‘breakthrough’ in Guthrie case: retired NYPD lieutenant​

Retired NYPD Lt. Dr. Darrin Porcher called preliminary forensic results tied to a recovered glove “truly a breakthrough” in the Nancy Guthrie case, saying the DNA profile could move the investigation forward.

"It’s truly a breakthrough in the case. The DNA will go into the CODIS database, and I’m hopeful a match will occur. If unsuccessful, we can go the genealogical route to match secondary DNA through family members which was a success in the [Bryan] Kohberger case," Porcher said. "On another note, the private sector has the ability to create an image of a person based on DNA."

Nancy Guthrie latest: Task force awaits forensic results as search enters third week

Nancy Guthrie went missing two weeks ago after being kidnapped from her home in Tucson, Arizona. Authorities have yet to publicly name any suspects or persons of interest.

www.foxnews.com

Hopefully

So a random commonly used disposable glove on the side of the road (they found many according to Nanos) will get a CODIS hit. Then what? How do you link that to an actual crime when you don't know what crime has yet been comitted and this glove was miles away from the missing person's scene.

 

[jtfolden]

Yes. I had the same question, why isn't he concerned the door bell with alert the homeowner and family of his presence? Did he think it had been disarmed by someone else?

My opinion is that he was unaware of the doorbell camera given he came unprepared to deal with it. Otherwise he would have had a tool to quickly remove it or something to cover it at the ready instead of grabbing a plant to cover it.

IMO he *did* seem concerned with it though which is why he held his fist up while checking how firmly it was attached to the doorframe.

Also, my doorbell sends notifications when it detects movement but not enough to wake me up. It would take someone actually pushing the button for the chime or alert on phone woke me.

He may have also been of the mind that even if the notification alerted someone, he had enough time to get in and do whatever he needed to do. Once he was inside, if NG was still in bed, he’d know whether anyone had been alerted or not.

 

[MeadowMuffin]

I really wish they hadn't publicized this because I don't want to start talking about methods of pacemaker removal again. IMO

I have missed hundreds of posts because of how quickly this thread moves. But last night I read how people think her pacemaker was removed from her body and this is the source of the blood on her front steps.

I find this theory to be unlikely. Those blood spots are more likely to be from a nosebleed that someone staunched with a tissue. To rip open someone's chest to remove a pacemaker would be very bloody and leave much more blood, and is quite unneeded.

When it was reported that her pacemaker was disconnected, what I'm sure was meant is that it was moved out of range of her cell phone which monitored it, much like an Apple watch. JMO

 

[stmichael]

3) Keep a can in the car of something to dissolve the gloves.

Acetone or MEK would do for nitrile but that's not practical and you still have the rest of the kit to account for. Wouldn't even be out of place in a work truck. I guess a lot of Acetone and a 5 gallon bucket with a lid in the bed of a truck would work. It would take some time but the DNA would likely be compromised immediately.

But he'd still have to deal with the rest of his clothes/mask/shoes. Plastic bag the kit when you're done away from the scene and incinerate it (burn barrel, fire pit, old bbq whatever).

 

[cait2007]

Why would they release that dna was back and now they will run through CODIS? Why wouldn’t that be almost instantaneous?

Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers | CODIS Hierarchy

Learn more about Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers with an emphasis on Partial Matches, specifically, CODIS Hierarchy.

nij.ojp.gov

Nanos didn’t use the fbi Quantico lab. He sent it to the private lab Pima County uses in Florida, which delayed the whole process. The private lab doesn’t have access to CODIS.

 

[Fargo]

Glove’s preliminary forensic results mark ‘breakthrough’ in Guthrie case: retired NYPD lieutenant​

Retired NYPD Lt. Dr. Darrin Porcher called preliminary forensic results tied to a recovered glove “truly a breakthrough” in the Nancy Guthrie case, saying the DNA profile could move the investigation forward.

"It’s truly a breakthrough in the case. The DNA will go into the CODIS database, and I’m hopeful a match will occur. If unsuccessful, we can go the genealogical route to match secondary DNA through family members which was a success in the [Bryan] Kohberger case," Porcher said. "On another note, the private sector has the ability to create an image of a person based on DNA."

Nancy Guthrie latest: Task force awaits forensic results as search enters third week

Nancy Guthrie went missing two weeks ago after being kidnapped from her home in Tucson, Arizona. Authorities have yet to publicly name any suspects or persons of interest.

www.foxnews.com

Hopefully

How is it a breakthrough? That glove could have come from anywhere. I see gloves, mittens, shoes, and other items alongside the road when I walk my dogs. Now, if the DNA comes back as a relative or someone else close to NG or someone who's already a person of interest then yes, that might be a breakthrough. IMO

 

[submarine7]

S


So a random commonly used disposable glove on the side of the road (they found many according to Nanos) will get a CODIS hit. Then what? How do you link that to an actual crime when you don't know what crime has yet been comitted and this glove was miles away from the missing person's scene.

Well, they may have a male profile already from Nancy's house and these could match. There are many possibilities but this glove that visually resembles the perps gloves both of which do NOT resemble the other 15 gloves they found. They can test it and see where or if it's a piece of evidence or they can just overlook it.

 

[Cool Cats]

Why would they release that dna was back and now they will run through CODIS? Why wouldn’t that be almost instantaneous?

Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers | CODIS Hierarchy

Learn more about Forensic DNA Education for Law Enforcement Decisionmakers with an emphasis on Partial Matches, specifically, CODIS Hierarchy.

nij.ojp.gov

Bureaucracy, they stated they had to wait for proper approvals etc.

The FBI received preliminary results from the laboratory on Saturday and was awaiting quality control and official confirmation on Sunday before putting the unknown male profile into a national database unique to the bureau, known as the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), the FBI said. This process typically takes 24 hours from when the bureau receives DNA, according to the FBI.

(From my article above with MSM link)

 

[KBlackRabbit]

S


So a random commonly used disposable glove on the side of the road (they found many according to Nanos) will get a CODIS hit. Then what? How do you link that to an actual crime when you don't know what crime has yet been comitted and this glove was miles away from the missing person's scene.

Find the person and see if they can be tracked to NG’s home on the night in question or if they have an alibi.

 

[No it’s not]

S


So a random commonly used disposable glove on the side of the road (they found many according to Nanos) will get a CODIS hit. Then what? How do you link that to an actual crime when you don't know what crime has yet been comitted and this glove was miles away from the missing person's scene.

It can provide a lead, establish probable cause for a search warrant etc.. All IMO

Cheers,
Nin

 

[fridaybaker]

DNA of unknown male profile lifted from glove found near Guthrie home

abcnews.com

Nancy Guthrie live updates: DNA of unknown male profile lifted from glove found near Guthrie home​

"We’ve gotten DNA back," Nanos said. "So that's of use. Now [we] have to go through and try to eliminate people or make people."

The sheriff’s department sent the gloves to a private lab for analysis in Florida on Thursday evening and they arrived at the laboratory on Friday, according to the FBI.

The FBI received preliminary results from the laboratory on Saturday and was awaiting quality control and official confirmation on Sunday before putting the unknown male profile into a national database unique to the bureau, known as the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), the FBI said. This process typically takes 24 hours from when the bureau receives DNA, according to the FBI.

Well, it's male, and that is positive, because it seems like most of the experts think porch guy is a man. Hopefully, this is a true break in the case.

At first, I must admit that I didn't think NG was still alive. However, I'm not so sure now. Obviously, though, the longer this goes on, the greater the possibility of her not surviving it, methinks. WHEN will they get useful results?!!