AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[annpats]

I don’t think this has anything to do with a robbery and I don't think it’s tied to a live kidnapping case either.

Agree.

Who wanted NG dead is the question I’m still holding on to.

It wasn't a revenge killing, nor a random psychopathic murderer, nor an accident. Someone purposely wanted NG gone, and broke into her house to get her.

Who would benefit most from her death? Why would they benefit?
It can only be about money.

MOO.

 

[annpats]

I think it will end up being very close to her inner circle because I think whoever was acquainted with the property, the home, that area and we know felt comfortable enough to be inside for 41 minutes in the middle of the night.

How do we think most of the 41 minutes was spent?

What were they actually doing in there for that amount of time?

Prowling around the house looking for something? As far as we know, nothing was taken.

Would it take that long to subdued/kill an elderly woman and move her out? There would have to be at least 2 people to move her.

MOO.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

How do we think most of the 41 minutes was spent?

What were they actually doing in there for that amount of time?

Prowling around the house looking for something? As far as we know, nothing was taken.

Would it take that long to subdued/kill an elderly woman and move her out? There would have to be at least 2 people to move her.

MOO.

JMO but there may have been dialogue, explaining what was happening. Ultimately we have no idea, but it's possible the perps explained to NG that they were taking her but would look after her until a ransom was paid.

 

[Elley Mae]

I think today we will get some answers from the FBI

I am very excited about the glove; I feel a game-changer in this case

The first thing they will do is compare it to the unknown DNA found inside Nancy's home

Second, if they need to will be Codis ( basically people who have been in trouble with the law in the past)

And then DNA Genealogy (combines DNA testing with traditional, document-based research to trace family history, confirm relationships)

The FBI will also be checking for DNA in Nancy's vehicle, which was taken away

So more than one sample to test one on one

I think the Sheriff and FBI already preliminary know, another reason why the statement was given out yesterday

The profile will be built, then the FBI will put it into Codis and law enforcement will take it from there

I too hope this will help in finding the who.

This is what i want to see.

A New AI Tool Can Recreate Your Face Using Nothing But Your DNA

New AI built by Chinese scientists can create 3D faces from DNA with alarming accuracy.

www.zmescience.com

 

[penguinface]

If NG wasn’t wearing her hearing aid, I wonder if there’s the possibility an assailant could have got frustrated at her not understanding or folllowing his commands and demands, and lashed out.

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

Their source tells them they think it's a burglary gone wrong and they believe Nancy is still alive.
I'm trying to understand what they think happened here?

"Okay, so I got the jewels, the cash, oh and during the rush I accidentally grabbed this random old lady. Whoops."

They could be basing that, in part, on additional nest camera footage that they have seen that we haven't.

 

[Lukey2121]

The full backpack and the 41 minutes spent inside the house makes me think theres a good possibility it was a burglary gone wrong.
The backpack being full of tools with the intention of breaking into or removing a safe while the 41 minutes was spent looking for and interrogating NG about the safe/ money.

I’m sure there are a million possibilities but this theory makes sense to me. MOO

 

[flakesofsnow]

I’m adding my opinion that Ive held from the beginning : that someone went to NG’s house that first night with the intent to kill her, which they did jmo. I don’t think this has anything to do with a robbery and I dont think it’s tied to a live kidnapping case either. No robber goes in to a house with a fully loaded backpack. A robber tends to carry one break in tool and an empty backpack to carry out the goods. And I’m not sure Ive heard of a robber (who wanted stolen goods) deciding it was better for him to take the person hostage or carry out the dead body from the house. The blood on the front porch tells me her serious injury happened on the front porch, (until we hear facts that there was a blood trail into the home). I think the stats say that most robberies occur during the daytime when people are not home sleeping. Who wanted NG dead is the question I’m still holding on to. The sideline circus of ransom notes is the second criminal case jmo, one that I am less interested in. Anxious for resolution for the family no matter what the true story is.

Its hard to speculate with no information form LE regarding any part of the crime scene other than the video and still pictures.

 

[shonyakay]

I’m not clear what point you are trying to make.

Nest doorbells can indeed store up to an hour of video locally but if they are disconnected from the service then it never gets uploaded. The doorbell was removed by the perp and has yet to be found.

The video footage of the perp from the doorbell was uploaded to Google’s servers before it was disconnected, which is where it was recovered from in the end. It was not recovered from the device itself.

Also, there’s no evidence the WiFi was disabled.

"The FBI on Tuesday released video footage and still images of a person wearing a backpack approaching Guthrie's front door, also early on Sunday morning. TMZ says it confirmed with federal law enforcement that the time of that footage was 2:12 a.m."

Former FBI agent urges caution as surveillance video of man in Guthrie area circulates web

New surveillance footage allegedly shows man trespassing 20 minutes before someone appeared at Nancy Guthrie's door, sparking widespread speculation about connections.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Nikynoo]

I can go with a burglary gone wrong. Could it be that the burglar thought the house was empty? If there was no response to the ring doorbell alert (e.g. lights coming on, no-one coming to the door), he could have thought the house was empty and only knew NG was there once inside (perhaps each was caught unawares?). I still think the ransom is bogus.

I will be very relieved when this is over. I hope that NG is found well.

 

[shonyakay]

I can go with a burglary gone wrong. Could it be that the burglar thought the house was empty? If there was no response to the ring doorbell alert (e.g. lights coming on, no-one coming to the door), he could have thought the house was empty and only knew NG was there once inside (perhaps each was caught unawares?). I still think the ransom is bogus.

I will be very relieved when this is over. I hope that NG is found well.

This makes total sense and we know she wasn't wearing her hearing aids because they were left at her house when she was removed.

 

[MollyHarps]

Just caught up on Savannahs new video - I felt that video was much more personal than other videos - almost like she thinks she may know the person who abducted her mother MOO

 

[Silverstorm]

I hope I haven't missed someone else posting the link, but we've had an elderly person kidnapped in Australia - not a lot of information available at this stage but we have a link on WS here:

Australia Thread 'Australia - Chris Baghsarian, 85, Sydney, Kidnapped 13 February 2026'

Saturday at 4:17 PM

Chris Baghsarian was kidnapped on February 13, 2026. I forgot to put that in the title. If anyone knows how to edit it, I would be grateful.

Chris Baghsarian, 85, kidnapped in reported case of mistaken identity in Sydney

Grandfather, 85, Snatched from His Home in Case of Suspected Mistaken Identity: ‘Screaming Just Kept on Going'

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A very distressing situation - Chris Baghsarian is 85 years old and at this stage they are thinking mistaken identity. It's getting limited coverage here, but I am just posting as this is a rare situation like Nancy's.

The latest link I can find has more details - there are some distressing images in the article but they have been blurred.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/chilling-cctv-captures-moments-elderly-sydney-man-kidnapped-from-quiet-suburban-home/news-story/8f326e61f60114205c884a1fa8ca6e1b

Hope it's not too off topic, just thought it was relevant given the age of the person kidnapped, and in this case they seem to think they took the wrong person (I'm not sure at this stage, either way hoping he is returned home)

Thank you for posting this and letting us know. I will check out the link.

 

[Napoli]

Does anybody think there's a reason that the videos put out by NGs family went from all 3 kids, where all contributed to just SG and done in a more intimate style..it makes me wonder why?

INTIMACY. Perp is a stalker who has targeted SG as his girlfriend. SG is talking to him directly. I am paraphrasing but she said there's still time to do the right thing and i believe in the essential goodness of people. SG already has been briefed that she likely was the reason her mom was kidnapped. IMO. Mom is the trophy here. He can't get to SG so he takes the mom to force SG to give him attention and plead to him. Control! SG is speaking directly to him. IMO, though, this will only prolong the duration her mom is held. He has SG's undivided attention. MOO

 

[cr1menerd]

If NG wasn’t wearing her hearing aid, I wonder if there’s the possibility an assailant could have got frustrated at her not understanding or folllowing his commands and demands, and lashed out.

JMO

I think this is very possible.

 

[Sessiebo]

Connections!!

Interesting Article:

Tucson-Phoenix Russian crime ring busted, officials say

A Russian mafia operating in the Tucson and Phoenix areas has been busted after a six-month investigation by Tucson police.

tucson.com

Seems one of the Sons to the Auto Sales Company is Mentioned!!! G.A.

Question..
Why would they target Nancy? There are many people who have wealth around so why her? It seems too much of a hassle to kidnap an old lady for ransom but idk, there is so much we don't really know.

 

[AFTF]

Question..
Why would they target Nancy? There are many people who have wealth around so why her? It seems too much of a hassle to kidnap an old lady for ransom but idk, there is so much we don't really know.

AG owns a Jewelry Store!

 

[Sessiebo]

Just caught up on Savannahs new video - I felt that video was much more personal than other videos - almost like she thinks she may know the person who abducted her mother MOO

I just see an exhausted woman who is desperate to find her mom. JMO

 

[LarryLujack]

Just caught up on Savannahs new video - I felt that video was much more personal than other videos - almost like she thinks she may know the person who abducted her mother MOO

I think LE perhaps believes that the abduction was more about her then her mother. The abductor is seeking her attention.

 

[Sadi]

I watched that too. Previous no-confidence vote regarding the Sheriff came back almost unanimously yes. 1 no vote. Cross said Sheriff won 2024 election by about 500 votes. A mass exodus of detectives and patrol resulted after that resulting in the inexperience of those in the department. Sounds like nobody wants to work for him.

I watched this also and highly recommend others do too.