• #31,901
Yes, Google backend systems can recover disconnected or deleted Nest camera footage, a capability highlighted by high-profile law enforcement investigations, such as in February 2026, where the FBI retrieved video from a disconnected camera that had no active subscription. I.e. The Nancy Guthrie Case
That sounds like AI.

Again this footage was recovered from the Google servers. Once it was uploaded from the doorbell, it was irrelevant whether the doorbell was still online or not when it comes to recovery.
 
  • #31,902
Was the man with the two backpacks caught on camera the same night NG went missing ever identified?

Could "Lantana man"s full backpack be explained by him having one bag inside the other? Quite why he would do this is open for debate, and apologies if this person has been identified and cleared


Edited - the man has been identified and cleared
The man or person ( I was curious if it was a female ?) in the security footage covering up the ring doorbell camera was cleared ??
How did I miss that.
Smh.
So why was he covering up the camera with that plant; and what was he doing the night Nancy was kidnapped, etc.

Did you have a link ?
Thanks in advance.
Omo.
 
  • #31,903
The man or person ( I was curious if it was a female ?) in the security footage covering up the ring doorbell camera was cleared ??
How did I miss that.
Smh.
So why was he covering up the camera with that plant; and what was he doing the night Nancy was kidnapped, etc.

Did you have a link ?
Thanks in advance.
Omo.
No, they were asking about a man spotted around 5m away with two backpacks at a similar time. That man was cleared as being involved
 
  • #31,904
No, imo. All the click bait and poorly worded media articles are confusing people. They found gloves less than 2 miles from the home that MIGHT be the gloves worn by Lantana man (or someone else involved for all we know). This is the "match" that they made: the gloves look alike), no dna match has been reported. They sent the gloves for testing (in FL) and the testing revealed male dna. This dna will (after some confirmation/science stuff to be performed by FBI:) will be entered into the codis database.

They did separately report that unidentified dna was found in NG's home that didn't belong to any know family/workers/etc. The odd thing is I don't think they have mentioned the testing of the dna found in the home against the dna found on the gloves - which is interesting. are they not the same profile types or....? We also haven't heard if the unidentified NG house dna had a codis match. Maybe they don't have enough for a profile??? Did I miss this?

All of the confusing information yesterday was cray.

With that said, I still stand by my belief that they might have gotten a partial match that links a piece of evidence (maybe the gloves) or someone in particular to the crime and the FBI are awaiting an official match per Codis.
Like I said - just my belief.
They may need further evidence like a match from Codis to get a search warrant for a person of interest's DNA. I don't know how all of that works though.
 
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  • #31,905
IMHO, any disposable glove which has been worn by someone is likely to have DNA on it--even if worn by someone experienced in aseptic technique.
Therefore a commonly available glove that is "similar" to the one worn by the video-perp, which was found almost 2 miles from the crime scene, is likely to have DNA on it and unlikely to have anything to do with the crime--IMHO.
That's NOT to say that it shouldn't have been collected and tested; it just feels like people and the media are hanging their hopes on "this is going to break the case" when in reality it has a miniscule chance of being significant to this investigation, IMHO.
I truly want the test results to be significant and case-breaking.
 
  • #31,906
The president said the abductors would face “very, very severe — the most severe” federal consequences if Nancy Guthrie is found dead after being abducted from her home outside Tucson on Feb. 1.

Asked if that meant the DOJ would request the death penalty, Trump answered: “The most, yeah — that’s true.”

 
  • #31,907
That sounds like AI.

Again this footage was recovered from the Google servers. Once it was uploaded from the doorbell, it was irrelevant whether the doorbell was still online or not when it comes to recovery.
Just because it was recovered from Google's servers does not mean that it reconnected at NG's house. The camera may have been badly damaged by the suspect, including it's Wi-Fi connection hardware, and then was sent off to Google to see if they could find a way to "reconnect" it or transfer the data from the camera's internal buffer. Google personnel may have been the ones who reconnected it for the transfer of data to their servers.
 
  • #31,908
I can understand the legalities surrounding the reward money and its' inability to be used towards this most presumably hoax letter. I do wonder if there is a legal reason prohibiting the G family or anyone else from paying the same dollar amount to this person who is clearly committing a crime by asking for it in exchange for information.

I don't know the answer about the legality of doing it, but I imagine there's probably a "if we do it this time, it'll become a more common extortion scheme for any high profile crime, and may even increase the number of those crimes" component to it.

JMO.
 
  • #31,909
No, they were asking about a man spotted around 5m away with two backpacks at a similar time. That man was cleared as being involved
Oh, ok.
Thanks for clarifying !

Am just now trying to catch up a bit here as well.
All of you 'sleuthers' here are pages ahead of me.
 
  • #31,910

When you click on the link, there is a video of Harvey Levin (above written article) discussing this 4th letter, & his proposition to the author of the letter (which is to give the info to TMZ … TMZ will forward to LE … Author of letter gets reward if info is correct, they find Nancy, etc).
 
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  • #31,911
i'm pretty sure they ruled that guy out as being connected pretty shortly after the video was released. i'll edit when i find a source.
Thank you!
 
  • #31,912
Would NG's cardiologist have access to her pacemaker data? If pacemaker is continuing to work with its batteries would it send any data? Would absence of data indicate anything? (I have no clue about pacemakers, obviously). JMO
 
  • #31,913
Yes. I find this odd. I don’t know what to make of it. I guess these fbi psychologists know more than us?

I’m a religious person. Sometimes religious people want to believe the best about everyone and everything. Maybe that’s what SG is doing right now in order to cope. It’s a coping mechanism. Poor thing.

But realistically, there’s good and there’s evil, and whoever did this is evil. Really really evil, and you can’t reason and talk sense into evil.

You can however bargain with evil. Money talks when it comes to evil criminals.
SG, .SEND THE MONEY..This cloak and dagger, Instagram, click bait, video strategy is losing it's luster and credibility. MONEY TALKS. You still don't know who the perp is and what you are dealing with. Your stalker might be well barricaded and dug in. IF the ransom writer has info, take the gamble for your mom's life. JMO
 
  • #31,914
Then it signals that threats and extortion work. There are so many families with missing loved ones, even children. This risks them, and future victims.

If homeboy knows something, prove it. But they don't..... to date, it appears. IMO

I agree.

I would do anything if this were my mother, but I would HAVE TO KNOW that my mom was alive and I would need the proof of life. However that would be.

I doubt they would do so even if Nancy were still alive because it makes them traceable.

But I mean even I could write some stupid letter to Harvey Levin and claim to have Nancy, or state that I know who has her, and oh yeah, send me money.

I know the Guthries are desperate, as any of us would be in this situation, but I would want my mother home safely and not just show the next kidnapper that this is a fabulous way to become rich.

JMO
 
  • #31,915
Hope this is allowed! Brian entin is live now with JB from WFLA discussing the case and going back through the facts. It's interesting to watch
 
  • #31,916
That Robinson that was flying around the mountains yesterday is circling over NG home. Albeit at 3,000 ft which is way too high for "signal sniffer" or any search effort. My guess is private owner taking a look at the house out of curiousity. JMO
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  • #31,917
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she was taken to Mexico. That will likely create even more difficulty for LE, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how much cooperation there is there.
If she was alive at the time they went through Border Control and entered Mexico, NG being in Mexico would make sense. MOO
 
  • #31,918

Scammers Target Families Who Post Missing Persons on Social Media

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Scammers Target Families Who Post Missing Persons on Social Media


This scenario is not the same as NG but still proves a point about these opportunistic scams. IMO

Criminals Using Altered Proof-of-Life Media to Extort Victims in Virtual Kidnapping for Ransom Scams

 
  • #31,919
I think it’s very interesting the caption says that NEXT right thing….

This implies the kidnapper has done something right to this point, to me anyway.
"Just do the next right thing" common phrase, song, used when someone is overwhelmed or in DEEP
 
  • #31,920
"The man says he has a burglary on his record from 10 years ago, so he's scared to come forward, presumably fearing he'd be implicated."

Didn't he previously state he was afraid what the perpetrator(s) would do to him if he exposed him (them), he was in fear of his life, wanted protection from the authorities ?

Now he's afraid about his record with a 10 year ago robbery?

Why is he giving two different stories?
 

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