AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cady]

"Just do the next right thing" common phrase, song, used when someone is overwhelmed or in DEEP

She says "we believe" several times, but she doesn't say we believe Mom is alive. The "we believe" is about the decency of everyone and that they CAN do the right thing. ....by divulging NG's whereabouts. JMO

 

[Jade]

IMHO, any disposable glove which has been worn by someone is likely to have DNA on it--even if worn by someone experienced in aseptic technique.
Therefore a commonly available glove that is "similar" to the one worn by the video-perp, which was found almost 2 miles from the crime scene, is likely to have DNA on it and unlikely to have anything to do with the crime--IMHO.
That's NOT to say that it shouldn't have been collected and tested; it just feels like people and the media are hanging their hopes on "this is going to break the case" when in reality it has a miniscule chance of being significant to this investigation, IMHO.
I truly want the test results to be significant and case-breaking.

No the FBI said the glove sent for testing is different from the searchers gloves:


The FBI says investigators collected “approximately 16 gloves in various areas” near the Guthrie house, but most of them were searchers’ gloves discarded in various areas when they searched the area.

According to the FBI, the one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video.

SOURCE: Guthrie disappearance could be result of burglary attempt

imo

 

[stmichael]

All IMHO
Just a possibility that I can imagine happening.

I think this was a planned kidnapping of Nancy based on her daughter Savannah’s notoriety and wealth. A minimum of two people were at her home for the actual abduction but others were involved and waiting for the hostage to be delivered.
I think that Nancy put up a fight in order to not be removed from her home- hence an injury that dripped blood when they carried her out the front door. Possibly an injury to her nose.
I think Nancy was ferried across the border in a van or small truck before anyone knew she was missing.
I don’t think they took her through the heavy cameras at Nogales though but further afield near Naco or Agua Prieta.
She was taken to a rural ranch as pre-planned and ransom notes were sent to the sheriff/ law enforcement with no public acknowledgement before being sent to TMZ and local TV stations in Tucson.
I think the ransom notes via email asking for around six million dollars in cryptocurrency were the legitimate notes from Nancy’s kidnappers.
I think there was at least one designated female “care taker” waiting for Nancy to be delivered at the ranch.
It is very easy to find young “elder care” help across the border and I think that there were one or two young “nurses” in place awaiting Nancy’s arrival.
I do think they were able to keep Nancy alive for the first week of her capture- hopeful that the ransom money would be delivered. If they needed meds for her those were easily obtained in Mexico.
If leaked deadlines from the first two notes are to be believed, the second deadline of Monday passed exactly one week ago. I doubt that Nancy’s captors have faith that any money will be sent to them at this point so I sadly believed that they removed Nancy from the ranch last week and disposed of her somewhere in the dessert. The chances of ever finding her body are slim to none. They may have disposed of the nurses as collateral damage too.
The chances of ever finding her captors are slim as well. I don’t think they found any black gloves that were related to this kidnapping. The continued searches were for a so-to-speak off-chance K Bar knife sheath (or any little piece of DNA inadvertently left at the scene)
The tent set up was to cover media eyes when they re-checked Nancy’s front porch for DNA.

I truly hope they found some trace DNA from the captors and I hope they are able to find them and prosecute them. While I’m not optimistic that Nancy is still alive, I am still hopeful for a great miracle.

All good points and possibilities. I agree with the dynamic you describe south of the border. I also agree with your conclusions stemming from that.

My main contention with the footage that was published is why did the masked man on the Nest cam go to the front door with such purpose? He didn't seem to be aware of the camera so it wasn't to just disable it and the front door was in a mostly enclosed, secluded brick vestibule. Many other first story entry options including a side door to the garage with an easily breakable pane window on it. No need to go to the front door there unless he wanted to go to the door itself. It had a welded security door with a deadbolt and he went for that hard access point displaying what appears to be a firearm, which I believe was for intimidation and coercion (I was confused by his holster and carry choice, why not conceal carry and use the sidearm when necessary?).

As far as we know the security door was not breached or damaged and the decorative windows on either side were not broken (common vulnerability to reach in to open single cylinder deadbolt, takes a few seconds to gain entrance to most homes, in NG's set back secluded home the sound of the glass breaking would be negligible). Either the front door was unlocked, he had a key, lock pick, or he used coercion to enter the home;

....banged on the door with a ruse --cam was disabled at that point--a startled elderly lady finally checks and opens the door - not my PERSEC but it happens- and he brandishes the gun and she complies, maybe a struggle ensues out of the door or he hits her to show her he means business and underestimates the blow to a medically compromised 84 year old - criminals aren't smart....

The latest I've read in reports is that investigators have not confirmed any signs of forced entry (if someone can link something to the contrary I would be grateful).

 

[Arkay]

I’m going to have to hang on and trust the FBI on the wording and tone that Savannah is using in these latest messages to whoever took Nancy.

Personally I would find it very challenging to address the kidnappers as though they have a soft spot somewhere and that I’m appealing to their essential good nature.

To my mind, whoever has her is stone-hearted, or they wouldn’t inflict this on an elderly woman in the first place, nor torment her family.


This is not a kid who stole a cookie from the cookie jar, whom you could shame into being repentant.

But again, that’s just me, and I acquiesce to those whose careers are dealing with this and much more.

JMO

 

[jtfolden]

Just because it was recovered from Google's servers does not mean that it reconnected at NG's house. The camera may have been badly damaged by the suspect, including it's Wi-Fi connection hardware, and then was sent off to Google to see if they could find a way to "reconnect" it or transfer the data from the camera's internal buffer. Google personnel may have been the ones who reconnected it for the transfer of data to their servers.

I don’t think anyone has ever suggested the doorbell reconnected after it was removed. LE also never stated they have the doorbell or sent it anywhere either. The video footage of the perp was recovered from Google servers so it had to have been uploaded prior. Even if you don’t have an active subscription, video events and notification data are sent to the server. Up to three hours worth of rolling data might be kept briefly depending on the free plan the hardware was associated with.

 

[Napoli]

I can understand the legalities surrounding the reward money and its' inability to be used towards this most presumably hoax letter. I do wonder if there is a legal reason prohibiting the G family or anyone else from paying the same dollar amount to this person who is clearly committing a crime by asking for it in exchange for information.

Cops pay informants ALL THE TIME! Ever hear the term "paid informant"? Family needs to pay the money. JMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos confirmed "nobody" has been ruled out as a suspect but urged people to avoid spreading "nasty stuff" without concrete evidence.

"If he [Tommaso Cioni] is guilty, if he’s the one who did it, and we’re able to prove that, then at that time jump on it, but don’t come out of nowhere with this," Nanos said in a statement to The Daily Mail on February 15.

He added: "I understand the pundits are out there. They’re gonna say, well, he’s the last one to see her alive. We understand that stuff. But, my goodness, you’re putting a mark on somebody who could be completely innocent. And more important than that, he’s family."

Arizona Sheriff 'Understands' Public's Interest in Missing Nancy Guthrie's Son-in-Law Tommaso Cioni — As He Insists 'Nobody' Has Been Ruled Out as a Suspect

The Sheriff in charge of the investigation into Savannah Guthrie's missing mom, Nancy, said he "understands" the public interest in Nancy's son-in-law as a suspect, RadarOnline. comcan reveal.

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[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023451912243413486

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the case this one reminds me most of is that of Laura Houghteling. And that was a homicide. I think NG was killed in her home, and the body removed for some reason by the killer, probably to remove evidence on her body and buy time.

I don't know about motivation, but it doesn't appear to be theft, at least not of items from the home. It could have a sexual component; Bundy did similar home invasions where he took the victim with him.

I don't think any of the ransom demands are from the kidnapper; I think they are the work of opportunists. A genuine ransom demand would have come in immediately, not hours or days later.

MOO

FYI: As I recall, the murderer in Laura's case was a homeless man who had taken up residence in the parking lot of a church (lived in his car), a block or two from the home where she lived with her mother. He was "off" in some way, either mentally ill or compromised intelligence but Laura's mom had been hiring him to do yard work.

Forensic Files — Season 3, Episode 9 — Beaten by a Hair​

Washingtonian: What Happened to Laura Houghteling?

 

[JaimeInLA]

New:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023452005390578089

 

[MassGuy]

Full statement.

From PCSD: “2/16 GUTHRIE UPDATE
DNA Evidence: The FBI released the statement below on Sunday, February 15:
The gloves found approximately 2 miles from the Guthrie residence in a field near the side of the road were packaged up by PCSD and sent overnight on 2/12 and they arrived at their private lab in Florida on 2/13. The FBI received preliminary results yesterday on 2/14 and are awaiting quality control and official confirmation today before putting unknown male profile into CoDIS, the national database unique to the bureau. This process typically takes 24 hours from when the bureau receives DNA. Investigators collected approximately 16 gloves in various areas near the house. Most of them were searchers’ gloves that they discarded in various areas when they searched the vicinity. The one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video. The FBI has and will continue to provide assistance on whatever timeline is provided to us.
Please direct any future inquiries regarding the gloves and potential DNA evidence to the FBI.

Suspect Clothing: PCSD can confirm that the clothing seen in the video may have been purchased from Walmart but is not exclusively available at Walmart. This remains a possibility only. The investigation is ongoing, and information may change as new details develop.

Clarification: PCSD has never stated that this was a burglary gone wrong. Any reports indicating otherwise are inaccurate. This remains a very active investigation.

Briefings / Interviews: No press briefings are scheduled at this time. If a significant development occurs, a press conference will be announced via email and on the @pimasheriff X account.

The Sheriff is granting a limited number of one-on-one interviews. We understand media interest is high; however, due to time constraints, not all requests can be accommodated. We encourage outlets to coordinate with their local affiliates when possible.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023452110545965372

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

"Just do the next right thing" common phrase, song, used when someone is overwhelmed or in DEEP

Or, that FBI experts on kidnapping and hostage negotiation told SG exactly what to say to get the best response from the kidnapper. Saying "just do the next right thing" to the perpetrator might give them confidence that SG believes in their goodness, that this was all a terrible mistake and he really is a good guy who usually does the right thing.

SG is appealing to his goodness and his desire to do good things and to continue to do good things.

I think SG's language could possibly make a positive difference with the kidnapper. She's making a good case for why he would return her mother. JMO

 

[Leilei]

"Them" "Mexico" Author of today's note/letter has a record of burglary from 10 years ago. Hmmmmm

Hmmmm indeed.
Also, just pay the money already. If it's a scam, so be it, and hopefully they'll be able catch and prosecute this person.
If it isn't a scam, even better.
Money well spent either way.
This has gone on long enough.
IMO.

 

[rebel123]

Cops pay informants ALL THE TIME! Ever hear the term "paid informant"? Family needs to pay the money. JMO

The family are willing to pay, but they want 'Proof of Life', none has been provided, in fact it sounds like communications have 'broken' down. You have to 'fear' the worse.

 

[aamillaa]

Is it correct feds have jurisdiction in ransom cases? Would that mean that if FBI has determined ransom notes are directly connected to NG, they take over?

Just trying to reason though the PCSD/Nanos statements to media the last 48 hoursish and wondering if some of the info leaking/coming is from the FBI and hasn’t been shared with PCSD? While that seems extremely unlikely, I just don’t know what to think.

 

[raja]

If the 4 emails were sent to TMZ using whatever people use to hide their IP address I wonder if each time they do this it makes it a little easier for the FBI to track them. I sure hope so. If they do have valid info I want them found. If they don’t I still want them found and prosecuted. JMO

 

[BellaToothless]

Subject’s right jackets pocket showing a bulk. Tool or Walkie Talkie, as mentioned before by a poster:
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Subject also seem to either have a belly, or he was layered up? If it’s a belly, he is not worried showing it. He is layered up in case of a fight?
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Images from FBI video:

ALL IMO

Cheers,
Nin

That definitely looks like a walkie talkie antenna.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

NewsNation is reporting live that the signal sniffer helicopter is currently flying over Nancy Guthrie's home and surrounding area.

Excellent.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023444158141374613

 

[Unalienable Rights]

They did separately report that unidentified dna was found in NG's home that didn't belong to any know family/workers/etc. The odd thing is I don't think they have mentioned the testing of the dna found in the home against the dna found on the gloves - which is interesting. are they not the same profile types or....? We also haven't heard if the unidentified NG house dna had a codis match. Maybe they don't have enough for a profile??? Did I miss this?

The sheriff said that unidentified DNA was found on NG's "property," but he wouldn't say if it was found in the home or outside the home. In the following linked article, he is quoted as saying that the unknown DNA found on the property was not a CoDIS match.

https://www.wfla.com/news/dna-found-at-nancy-guthries-home-not-hers-or-close-contacts-sheriff/

Authorities in Arizona have found DNA belonging to someone other than Nancy Guthrie or those in close contact with her on her property.

Sheriff Chris Nanos of Pima County, Arizona, confirmed this to NewsNation during a Friday evening appearance on “Elizabeth Vargas Reports.”

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The sheriff said the DNA was collected from the crime scene the morning investigators processed Nancy Guthrie’s home but declined to specify whether it was found inside or outside the house. The DNA has not matched anyone in CODIS, the national database for people convicted of crimes.