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” ‘I know what I saw five days ago south of the border, and I was told to shut up, so I know who he is, and that was definitely Nancy with them,’ ” Harvey said, reading from the letter.

 
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DBM - Double Post
 
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CeCe Moore works with Parabon Labs, who have developed an algorithm that can actually put a face to DNA. It is remarkable technology.
Yay, I think we are getting closer.

KMO
 
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Personally, I don't think an obession with Savannah is the perp's motive because nothing was mentioned in the ransom letter that Nancy was targeted (other than the amount of money demanded) because of Savannah.

I think the burglary turned into a kidnapping theory makes sense due to panic when he realized that this lady was the mother of a well known Today Show host.
NOTHING WAS MENTIONED THAT WE WERE TOLD. The entire contents of the ransom notes have never been revealed. jmo
 
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I don’t know why the media is so surprised the family is continuing to maintain the grounds. I would do the same thing, remaining hopeful, that my mom does return home, and her home will be just the way she left it.
NG likely has a landscaper scheduled to come weekly or every other week to maintain her yard. JMO
 
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Walmart has extensive surveillance in their stores, above their cash registers and in their parking lots. Much of Walmart is now self-checkout so I wouldn't anticipate somebody remembering this person.

But, LE could get a warrant for a Walmart to pull up all of their Walmart specific backpack purchases (the one used by the perp), get a date of the purchase, credit card information with their name if they used a credit card and then go through the video from that date of purchase and capture what they look like and get the make and license number of the car they drive.

JMO

Wallmart is already co-operating pulling months of purchases -in store and online- specifically for Ozark trail backpacks, including beyond Tuscon.

Walmart has provided records of all Ozark Trail Hiker online and in-store purchases over the past several months, including sales beyond the Tucson area, to investigators, Nanos told CBS News.

 
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Personally, I don't think an obession with Savannah is the perp's motive because nothing was mentioned in the ransom letter that Nancy was targeted (other than the amount of money demanded) because of Savannah.

I think the burglary turned into a kidnapping theory makes sense due to panic when he realized that this lady was the mother of a well known Today Show host.
Agreed.
And, adding to that; perhaps the perp -- or perps -- already knew this when they broke into Nancy's home ?
I say 'broke into' as I'm not seeing a scenario where she would've opened the door willingly; at least for now ?
Imo.
 
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I just hope all of this information doesn't increase the flight risk.

Same and/or potential harm to Nancy.
Or, if God forbid she is deceased, make it impossible for her body to be recovered if the perp makes sure that it won't be now.
 
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The problem with the Wal-Mart video is you have to have narrowed it down to a time frame OR an electronic receipt in the system where all of this was bought on one ticket.

THEN you can go find the video that corresponds
 
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Good to hear there is a “neighborhood action team” working with their neighbors to try and find useful footage to help.

“A neighborhood action team has also been busy cross-referencing their footage with other neighbors, searching for patterns or useful information to send to the FBI and the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Teamwork between neighbors and the Tucson community is essential in this case.”

Indeed !
Sometimes it seems like this case could break -- based on volunteer/neighbor's assistance ?
No disrespect to sheriff Nanos or any other LE working on Nancy's case, of course.
Omo.
 
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I hope this doesn't drag on for another 20 years with Nancy still missing and Harvey Levin reporting that he just received the 2,126 th note from the people who claim they know the kidnapper and they will tell us but only if we send them money.
Thank you for this moment of levity during such a stressful case.
 
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Scammers Target Families Who Post Missing Persons on Social Media

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Scammers Target Families Who Post Missing Persons on Social Media


This scenario is not the same as NG but still proves a point about these opportunistic scams. IMO

Criminals Using Altered Proof-of-Life Media to Extort Victims in Virtual Kidnapping for Ransom Scams

This happened when my friend went missing. Thankfully, it was just before the consumer AI boom, so the proof-of-life photos they sent were obviously fake.

But man, the scammers didn't wait more than a few days to pounce.
 
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dbm
 
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NOTHING WAS MENTIONED THAT WE WERE TOLD. The entire contents of the ransom notes has never been revealed. jmo
LE doesn't want the public to know what is in the ransom letters, and we really only know what they want us to know. Basically, we know very little and we don't know if what we've been told is calculated to frighten the perp and not necessarily true or if what we've been told is factual information. I suspect it's a little of both. JMO
 
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The family is in no position to bargain. This isn't a flea market. This is their mother's life. They want "proof of life". People in hell want ice water. JMO
Agreed. At this point they're not going to get it. Either Nancy has already passed or whoever has her fears a photo will be able to be tracked. And if God forbid Nancy is dead, don't they still want to know where her remains are and bring the perpetrators to justice? Pay the money. They don't have to make a big show of it or announce it. Do it discreetly and see what happens. Threaten charges on Blabby Levin if he makes it public. If the FBI doesn't get a hit on that DNA they're back to square one. The only way this case will be solved is if someone with knowledge comes forward, and LE is going to have to make that worth their while.
 
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Curious. I realize lots of people go thru their garage vs front door when they come home, but looking at where the driveway is to the front door vs to the garage (having to back out), wouldn't it be more practical (for SIL and her) to have gone thru the front when dropped off? Must have been a normal routine. On the other hand, the opener conveniently made a record of when she was dropped off. Again, there could be a great explaination, but I do question it.
 
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Why are LE still letting people traipse all over a crime scene? Forensics is likely to be the key to solving this case, and another set of foot prints and DNA is just going to muddy the water, surely?

Yeah, unfortunate considering that even Nanos said in an interview that he regrets opening the scene early and should have worked with the family about requesting to keep police tape up longer, etc.

But that scene has been cooked now. It jumped the shark with the oblivious pizza delivery guy walking right up to the front door , past investigators, trying to deliver a podcasters order.
 
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I don’t know why the media is so surprised the family is continuing to maintain the grounds. I would do the same thing, remaining hopeful, that my mom does return home, and her home will be just the way she left it.
Also helps them maintain some sense of normalcy and connection. jmo
 

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