AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Nikynoo]

All good points and possibilities. I agree with the dynamic you describe south of the border. I also agree with your conclusions stemming from that.

My main contention with the footage that was published is why did the masked man on the Nest cam go to the front door with such purpose? He didn't seem to be aware of the camera so it wasn't to just disable it and the front door was in a mostly enclosed, secluded brick vestibule. Many other first story entry options including a side door to the garage with an easily breakable pane window on it. No need to go to the front door there unless he wanted to go to the door itself. It had a welded security door with a deadbolt and he went for that hard access point displaying what appears to be a firearm, which I believe was for intimidation and coercion (I was confused by his holster and carry choice, why not conceal carry and use the sidearm when necessary?).

As far as we know the security door was not breached or damaged and the decorative windows on either side were not broken (common vulnerability to reach in to open single cylinder deadbolt, takes a few seconds to gain entrance to most homes, in NG's set back secluded home the sound of the glass breaking would be negligible). Either the front door was unlocked, he had a key, lock pick, or he used coercion to enter the home;

....banged on the door with a ruse --cam was disabled at that point--a startled elderly lady finally checks and opens the door - not my PERSEC but it happens- and he brandishes the gun and she complies, maybe a struggle ensues out of the door or he hits her to show her he means business and underestimates the blow to a medically compromised 84 year old - criminals aren't smart....

The latest I've read in reports is that investigators have not confirmed any signs of forced entry (if someone can link something to the contrary I would be grateful).

IMO, the front door was made ready for a speedy escape. It’s the only exit that has the fastest direct route to the road. IMO entrance was not made by the front door (either NG opening it or otherwise).

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

That is very astute. Not even the brother has posted anything since then. I wonder if they are just too distraught, or if that suggests something else is happening.

I think it might be a simple explanation in that SG has professional expertise in communication and is comfortable being in the public eye, and the other two sibs are deferring to SG's expertise and comfort being in the public. The other two sibs may prefer to be more private.

It also could be likely that the FBI experts in hostage negotiation and kidnapping are recommending that only one of the siblings is the face and communicator with the perp. And, I think they might recommend that SG be the communicator because of her professional expertise.

JMO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

TMZ Receives 4th Nancy Guthrie Demand Email, Come Forward and Tell Us

TMZ has received a 4th email from the man claiming to know who kidnapped Nancy Guthrie and where she is ... and we have a proposition for that person.

www.tmz.com

 

[BellaToothless]

At some point crime scenes are released back to the owner. They don't hold the scene until the crime is solved. They likely have pictures of the entire area(s) and feel they have exhaustively physically searched what is available to search there. IMO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

IMO, the front door was made ready for a speedy escape. It’s the only exit that has the fastest direct route to the road.

Exactly what I think. They only used the front door as a speedy escape and they needed the nest cam totally disabled so the perps wouldn't be seen, NG's condition wouldn't be known and their vehicle wouldn't be seen. JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

I thought about the hot prowling that was discussed a great deal during the Idaho4 case, but I can't see how that would apply here.

Hot prowl, in my opinion, is when residents are home, the burglar may be willing to take on the resident, commit violence. They usually carry a knife or gun to harm resident. They don’t want to wake anyone up, just stealing, but will take on if confronted. JMO

No idea if that applies here, we still don’t know the motive.

All JMO

 

[shonyakay]

I posted this last night. LE should potentially be able tie the glove to the Guthrie residence through plant DNA. The glove in question , if used by the perp, should be loaded with lantana plant DNA .

This is why I love Websleuths

 

[Trino]

I just hope all of this information doesn't increase the flight risk.

This is a state crime. How would the DOJ request max penalty.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

Has anyone posted in this thread about similarities between SG's latest video and quotes from the film Tomorrowland?
Spoken by George Clooney.

“You are not lost.”
“You are not alone.”
“It’s never too late.”
“We are here.”
“We believe in the essential goodness of every human being.”

 

[Moonchime]

Is twitter down for anyone else? (or X whatever u want to call it)

It's working fine for me at the moment.

 

[SlimPickens]

Re: Latest Harvey Levin communication. I doubt a Latino who is intimately related to Mexico or central America, or someone who is intimately in contact with a criminal cartel/gang located there, is going to refer to it as "South of the Border". Probably just a lunatic opportunist.

JMO.

 

[grumpybear55]

Has anyone posted in this thread about similarities between SG's latest video and quotes from the film Tomorrowland?
Spoken by George Clooney.

“You are not lost.”
“You are not alone.”
“It’s never too late.”
“We are here.”
“We believe in the essential goodness of every human being.”

Definitely very strange the reference to movies. Has to be for a very specific reason

 

[Cloudydiamond]

The problem with the Wal-Mart video is you have to have narrowed it down to a time frame OR an electronic receipt in the system where all of this was bought on one ticket.

THEN you can go find the video that corresponds

You can also search by the sku, which would give dates of sales.

 

[Moonchime]

Has anyone posted in this thread about similarities between SG's latest video and quotes from the film Tomorrowland?
Spoken by George Clooney.

“You are not lost.”
“You are not alone.”
“It’s never too late.”
“We are here.”
“We believe in the essential goodness of every human being.”

Wow! I've never seen Tomorrowland, but that is interesting. Especially since in SG's first video, she ended with a quote from The Silence of the Lambs.

 

[BellaToothless]

IMO, the front door was made ready for a speedy escape. It’s the only exit that has the fastest direct route to the road. IMO entrance was not made by the front door (either NG opening it or otherwise).

And also with that theory there are other holes in it like motion cameras not picking up any of NGs movements in the house when she left her BR to open the front door.

 

[SaraSmile]

I was gobsmacked (love that word) to learn that the investigators detained three people and towed a RR about 2 miles from NG's home. I thought the perp(s) would have gone to Mexico straight away. MOO

Maybe they had family in Tucson, calculated risk to stay, thought they may have covered their tracks. JMO

 

[SMK777]

This is a state crime. How would the DOJ request max penalty.

I thought abduction for ransom was a federal crime, but maybe not.

 

[shonyakay]

Wow! I've never seen Tomorrowland, but that is interesting. Especially since in SG's first video, she ended with a quote from The Silence of the Lambs.

It's possible publicity not money is the real motive.

 

[BellaToothless]

Exactly what I think. They only used the front door as a speedy escape and they needed the nest cam totally disabled so the perps wouldn't be seen, NG's condition wouldn't be known and their vehicle wouldn't be seen. JMO

And so the vehicle more importantly couldn't be seen.

 

[Laura Avery]

Something I've been think about randomly. There's no reports of drag marks away from either door, the floor possibly looks gritty enough for there to be something? If she was carried that means the person would need to be fairly strong, or possibly two perps. Just a thought