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TMZ is guaranteeing a $50,000 reward if the mystery man who has been emailing the gossip site comes forward with information that leads the FBI to Nancy Guthrie.

An anonymous tipster has now written TMZ a total of four times, claiming he knows where the abducted grandmother is being held and hinting that she may have been taken to Mexico by multiple captors.

The emailer is demanding payment in Bitcoin to reveal her location, as he supposedly does not trust law enforcement. The email’s author says he fears a decade-old burglary arrest may cause investigators to view him as a suspect, TMZ reports.
Valid fear. But if he knows where NG is being held, there also is a chance that he is an accessory to this crime. JMO
 
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Personally, I think the lantana was a stroke of genius. To me it means he’s a problem solver.
I would have to argue he's more of a problem creator.
 
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The email’s author says he fears a decade-old burglary arrest may cause investigators to view him as a suspect
The email author including that is a mistake imo. That information might be enough to help LE find them.
 
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Personally, I think the lantana was a stroke of genius. To me it means he’s a problem solver.
I thought the same thing: He's resourceful.
 
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THREAD IS CLOSED FOR JUST A BIT SO EVERYONE CAN SEE. ANYONE WHO MENTIONS THE FAMILY AS A SUSPECT WILL BE TIMED OUT OR BANNED.
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I was out for a walk and came back to this news. To everyone who never considered any one of them to be involved, I apologize to you. My theory was proven wrong and I’m glad this was published to clear up any doubts. The entire family has been through a painful experience and I hope will be able to start healing a bit with this announcement. Thank you
 
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I can't deal with anything TMZ-related with this case anymore. Done. JMO.
 
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IMO many people wouldn't have thought of using the stem of a plant to get the nest cam off the door. This lantana guy is calm, casual, not stressed and, in this case, good at quickly solving a practical problem. Still curious how his actions and demeanor could be seemingly so relaxed and casual in the midst of what was taking place inside the house. JMO
With all due respect, I do not see how anyone can claim this fellow is "calm, casual, not stressed...and good at quickly solving a practical problem" based on his frankly, laughable, attempt to use the plant. He actually solved nothing with the plant and looked exactly like an incompetent guy in full panic mode with his effort to do so. I think we are giving this guy too much credit. MOO
 
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Valid fear. But if he knows where NG is being held, there also is a chance that he is an accessory to this crime. JMO

I feel that since he stated in the email that he has a prior burglary charge, and this was after someone in LE leaked and then retracted that the general theory is 'botched burglary', that there is a solid chance that this guy and the perp could be one in the same. That he could be trying to mitigate his penalty by minimizing his crime. LE gave him the opportunity by publicizing that statement minimizing the crime as a 'botched burglary', and I think it was probably on purpose to try to lure him back out.

If so, it worked.

JMO.
 
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New theory of mine: We saw body damage on NG's newish car. Seems like that may have been fairly recent, because I would expect NG to have that repaired in a reasonable amount of time. The car towed from the person's home today, who was detained on Friday evening, but not arrested, also has body damage.

Is it possible that NG was involved in a fender-bender with another person, which resulted in some rage behavior by that other person? Could that person have followed NG to her home and created this tragedy in the name of revenge?
This by far is the best theory I've heard of.
 
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I keep thinking that L-guy may not have even entered the house, but was the driver and his partner was in the house doing whatever he ( or she) was doing with NG. L-guy readied the front door to bring NG out. If he did go inside, it may have been to help carry NG out, if she was unable to walk because she was incapacitated. There HAD to be a vehicle nearby, maybe near the garage? All just speculation, as usual. JMO
 
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The email author including that is a mistake imo. That information might be enough to help LE find them.
First thing I thought was they just told on themselves.
IMO.
 
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New theory of mine: We saw body damage on NG's newish car. Seems like that may have been fairly recent, because I would expect NG to have that repaired in a reasonable amount of time. The car towed from the person's home today, who was detained on Friday evening, but not arrested, also has body damage.

Is it possible that NG was involved in a fender-bender with another person, which resulted in some rage behavior by that other person? Could that person have followed NG to her home and created this tragedy in the name of revenge?
Possible. If there was a fender bender, given that both cars had damage, it seems that NG would have called LE to come and write up a report. And there would be a record of that.

If they had an argument at the scene of the fender-bender or he believed she was at fault and, if LE were called to the scene of the fender-bender, he may have become enraged if LE sided with her.

Road rage is real. Getting revenge with another driver is real.

Interesting that a suspect's car had damage and NG's car had damage.

JMHO
 
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New theory of mine: We saw body damage on NG's newish car. Seems like that may have been fairly recent, because I would expect NG to have that repaired in a reasonable amount of time. The car towed from the person's home today, who was detained on Friday evening, but not arrested, also has body damage.

Is it possible that NG was involved in a fender-bender with another person, which resulted in some rage behavior by that other person? Could that person have followed NG to her home and created this tragedy in the name of revenge?
Is there a source for this? I have not seen one after going back several pages.
 
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I’ve wondered about another mask too, but it’s his mouth that looks odd to me (what little we see of it). Yet he held that little light in his mouth. I can’t imagine doing that with a mask.

The way the intruder is bundled and padded up and completely masked up makes me question just what I am seeing. If not for a glimpse of a mustache I couldn't guess just what sex this person is. IMO there is something really off about the disguise. Seems like overkill.
 
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New theory of mine: We saw body damage on NG's newish car. Seems like that may have been fairly recent, because I would expect NG to have that repaired in a reasonable amount of time. The car towed from the person's home today, who was detained on Friday evening, but not arrested, also has body damage.

Is it possible that NG was involved in a fender-bender with another person, which resulted in some rage behavior by that other person? Could that person have followed NG to her home and created this tragedy in the name of revenge?
I didn’t see any damage on her car. It looked like a reflection to me but maybe I missed something.
 
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I thought Lantana had little spikes. I don't see it much here because it's classed as a weed.

Doesn't seem smart for the suspect to grab something that could prick a hole in the glove IMO.
 
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New theory of mine: We saw body damage on NG's newish car. Seems like that may have been fairly recent, because I would expect NG to have that repaired in a reasonable amount of time. The car towed from the person's home today, who was detained on Friday evening, but not arrested, also has body damage.

Is it possible that NG was involved in a fender-bender with another person, which resulted in some rage behavior by that other person? Could that person have followed NG to her home and created this tragedy in the name of revenge?

This is an interesting theory. People do rage and ruminate over some stupid stuff sometimes.

JMO.
 
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I’m glad the family has been officially cleared. I didn’t want them to be suspects and it didn’t make sense to me. Nancy really seemed to love AG and her son and it just didn’t compute.

I’m also hoping or assuming this means the people from Friday are involved and LE is just working on putting it together and gaining enough evidence for an arrest.
 

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