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Ah yeah, forgot that peanut brain
and this one...
Ah yeah, forgot that peanut brain
and this one...
If only. Perp(s) evil enough to bloody an elderly woman aren't going to be concerned about her care.Yes I just made the same comment. Women as part of the kidnapping team could be the nurse, caregiver?
The presence of a female may be less threatening to a female captive?
The best theory i have at this point is someone from the area who just "thinks" she's a "super rich" lady due to daughter's fame. I DON'T think it's a crazed fan. Just someone who has seen her around about town. Someone who is just looking for easy targets so the can get some quick easy cash and avoid the 9-5 grind.
Or they got in fender bender, they exchanged names, numbers, etc. NG said she'd pay and they were like let's go rob this lady who lives alone.IDK she is an elderly lady, I would think anybody involved in a fender bender, no matter how crazy they are would understand if the other party was an elderly person as elderly people have declining motor skills or eyesight and would let it go. Maybe I’m wrong.
She might be so banged up. drugged by captor...any number of reasons. Background might be identifiable? Finally, they are in the driver's seat. They make the demands. They have what SG wants, her mom. Captor wants SG's attention. A sicko stalker who is enjoying watching SG twist in the wind. JMOThen why haven't the captors produced a video with proof of life to help expedite the ransom payment? Sounds very unlikely, but I know many of us are still clinging to that tiniest possibility this could be true.
Amateur opinion and speculation
These independent denials from Pima County sheriff and the FBI confirm they are coordinating effectively on this investigation, IMO. They cast more doubt on the self-serving leaks alleging dysfunction and incompetence published by less-reliable outlets and attributed to insiders. The direct statement by the FBI and Pima County here contradict the supposed insider information.
Very possible, but the proximity of this horrific act to the airing of the special on SG in her hometown leads me to believe that was a big factor. I'm sure she greatly regrets doing that now.The best theory i have at this point is someone from the area who just "thinks" she's a "super rich" lady due to daughter's fame. I DON'T think it's a crazed fan. Just someone who has seen her around about town. Someone who is just looking for easy targets so the can get some quick easy cash and avoid the 9-5 grind.
I think it looks like it could be damaged but I don't know that make of car very well.Yes that it what I thought was damage. Is it or does it just appear to be damage but is really a certain design on that certain make?
In a prior video TMZ guy said they/he couldn't pay the ransom as it would be unethical. Now they are offering this. Whether they truly cared about ethics or maybe just legal risk, they thought one thing, said it, now are doing different. I honestly think they said it and LE was like "idk, why not try" and expressed such. Hence TMZ now offering money. (Just my own opinion watching the pattern there.)Yes, the TMZ guy said himself that the FBI knows what he will be saying to the public and approves it. If they didn't, I don't think he would say anything.
I googled to see a 2025 car like hers. Just weird lines. I no longer think NG's car was damaged. jmoOr they got in fender bender, they exchanged names, numbers, etc. NG said she'd pay and they were like let's go rob this lady who lives alone.
This link below has photos of the damage on NG’s dark blue Subaru Forester.Do we have pics of NG's car outside of the garage? Several times, people have said there was damage. I have not seen it for myself. Maybe as it was being impounded for inspection? TY JMO
Way too lazy to look for all those videos. Will refrain from participating if requires that much effort.I think you still need source.
What was he doing in Mexico 5 days ago? I suppose whomever told him to shut up knows now that he didn't shut up. He's toast either way..LE gets him for faking these letters and he gets no reward or he gets the reward and the main person and his minions get him for not keeping quiet.For whatever reason, I hate videos, I hate watching videos, so here's a transcript:
"It is Monday morning, we have received a fourth letter from the same person who says that he knows where Nancy Guthrie is, and he wants money, uh, in return for the information. Essentially, he wants the reward. So, I have something to say to you, um, and I've already talked to the FBI about this, that, if you are not real, um, you're committing a crime, and you should know that, and this is a serious federal crime.
If you are real, this is the fourth letter you've sent--and I should tell everybody that in this letter it says, um, "I know what I saw five days ago south of the border and I was told to shut up, so I know who he is, and that was definitely Nancy with them." Uh this is the second time he has referred to more than one person involved in this. He said there is a main person and there are others, and he said it here. Um, he is saying that, um, Nancy was taken to Mexico. Now this is what he's saying.
I'm not going to vouch for him, but this is the fourth letter, we have sent them all on to the FBI. And, um, he also says one of the reasons he's worried about coming forward is he has a record, he has, uh, a burglary on his record from ten years ago, so.
I don't know if you're real or not, if you're watching this, but if you are, um, and I have told the FBI that we're going to do this, they know this, um, that, um, if you're worried about getting this money, um, and you really do have this information, send it to us--you're sending us these letters, send it to us, we will forward it to the FBI, and that way there is a record that we have that you supplied this information. If they find her and they find the kidnapper, then, at least there is evidence because we have it that you're the one who provided the information. So, this is a way for you to get that money, if this really is legitimate. Send us the information, we will pass it on to the FBI."
- Line breaks are added by me after the fact for readability, and do not correspond with the way this was stated. It was pretty rambly
- Whatever you may think of Harvey Levin/TMZ's ethics, HL is not a dumb person, and is a licensed attorney in California
And they are all wearing backpacksfor them to say this is a low crime area there seems to be a lot of people on porchs at night ...
TY. I saw that but then googled same year style car and now don't see damage. jmoThis link below has photos of the damage on NG’s dark blue Subaru Forester.
AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026