• #32,461
The best theory i have at this point is someone from the area who just "thinks" she's a "super rich" lady due to daughter's fame. I DON'T think it's a crazed fan. Just someone who has seen her around about town. Someone who is just looking for easy targets so the can get some quick easy cash and avoid the 9-5 grind.
Very possible, but the proximity of this horrific act to the airing of the special on SG in her hometown leads me to believe that was a big factor. I'm sure she greatly regrets doing that now.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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Yes that it what I thought was damage. Is it or does it just appear to be damage but is really a certain design on that certain make?
I think it looks like it could be damaged but I don't know that make of car very well.
 
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Yes, the TMZ guy said himself that the FBI knows what he will be saying to the public and approves it. If they didn't, I don't think he would say anything.
In a prior video TMZ guy said they/he couldn't pay the ransom as it would be unethical. Now they are offering this. Whether they truly cared about ethics or maybe just legal risk, they thought one thing, said it, now are doing different. I honestly think they said it and LE was like "idk, why not try" and expressed such. Hence TMZ now offering money. (Just my own opinion watching the pattern there.)
 
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Or they got in fender bender, they exchanged names, numbers, etc. NG said she'd pay and they were like let's go rob this lady who lives alone.
I googled to see a 2025 car like hers. Just weird lines. I no longer think NG's car was damaged. jmo
 
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This is kind of infuriating that the DNA hasn't been uploaded into CODIS yet. Why did the FBI release a statement yesterday morning saying this would be done within 24 hours? They must be trying to spook someone... but how do they know who if they haven't uploaded it into CODIS yet? Everything in this case is so weird.
 
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Nancy Guthrie update, from an FBI official:“The DNA from the glove in Nancy Guthrie case is still undergoing quality control in the sheriff’s private lab in Florida after being sent from Tucson on 2/12. It is expected to be inputed into FBI CODIS in the near future.”

 
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I think you still need source.
Way too lazy to look for all those videos. Will refrain from participating if requires that much effort.
 
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For whatever reason, I hate videos, I hate watching videos, so here's a transcript:
"It is Monday morning, we have received a fourth letter from the same person who says that he knows where Nancy Guthrie is, and he wants money, uh, in return for the information. Essentially, he wants the reward. So, I have something to say to you, um, and I've already talked to the FBI about this, that, if you are not real, um, you're committing a crime, and you should know that, and this is a serious federal crime.

If you are real, this is the fourth letter you've sent--and I should tell everybody that in this letter it says, um, "I know what I saw five days ago south of the border and I was told to shut up, so I know who he is, and that was definitely Nancy with them." Uh this is the second time he has referred to more than one person involved in this. He said there is a main person and there are others, and he said it here. Um, he is saying that, um, Nancy was taken to Mexico. Now this is what he's saying.

I'm not going to vouch for him, but this is the fourth letter, we have sent them all on to the FBI. And, um, he also says one of the reasons he's worried about coming forward is he has a record, he has, uh, a burglary on his record from ten years ago, so.


I don't know if you're real or not, if you're watching this, but if you are, um, and I have told the FBI that we're going to do this, they know this, um, that, um, if you're worried about getting this money, um, and you really do have this information, send it to us--you're sending us these letters, send it to us, we will forward it to the FBI, and that way there is a record that we have that you supplied this information. If they find her and they find the kidnapper, then, at least there is evidence because we have it that you're the one who provided the information. So, this is a way for you to get that money, if this really is legitimate. Send us the information, we will pass it on to the FBI."

  • Line breaks are added by me after the fact for readability, and do not correspond with the way this was stated. It was pretty rambly
  • Whatever you may think of Harvey Levin/TMZ's ethics, HL is not a dumb person, and is a licensed attorney in California
What was he doing in Mexico 5 days ago? I suppose whomever told him to shut up knows now that he didn't shut up. He's toast either way..LE gets him for faking these letters and he gets no reward or he gets the reward and the main person and his minions get him for not keeping quiet.

I believe there is video at border crossings and if someone went there to purchase Nancy's meds and brought them back I think they have to declare them. I don't know if there are any places to cross without the eyes of the border patrol on you but I believe there must be.

MOO
 
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for them to say this is a low crime area there seems to be a lot of people on porchs at night ...
And they are all wearing backpacks
 
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All of these videos of people snooping around, while troubling in general that people snoop around that much, are not really that compelling to me in terms of their potential association with this crime. Show me videos of a man masked up like a 1980s professional wrestler and my opinion might change.

JMO.
 
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But if she opened the garage herself by a keypad, all she had to do is walk in and then push a button to close it.
Were there motion lights outside her garage? Who actually dropped her off? Did they help her inside? Did she leave a porch light on? Did the driver just sit in the car with headlights on to guide her and then drive off?? Has this already been discovered?
 
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What was he doing in Mexico 5 days ago? I suppose whomever told him to shut up knows now that he didn't shut up. He's toast either way..LE gets him for faking these letters and he gets no reward or he gets the reward and the main person and his minions get him for not keeping quiet.

I believe there is video at border crossings and if someone went there to purchase Nancy's meds and brought them back I think they have to declare them. I don't know if there are any places to cross without the eyes of the border patrol on you but I believe there must be.

MOO
Wouldn't worry about going to the US to get med. Easy meds in Mexico.
 
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I saw someone saying that they wonder if she was taken to go to an ATM and empty out her account. No money was taken, right? There are cameras at ATMs too.
 
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I thought Lantana had little spikes. I don't see it much here because it's classed as a weed.

Doesn't seem smart for the suspect to grab something that could prick a hole in the glove IMO.
Lantanas do have little spikes and if you touch lantanas without gloves, they can make you itchy. Lantana guy was likely protected from the spikes because of his gloves. There's also an insect that is attracted to lantanas that causes residual stickiness on your hands or gloves. It's recommended that we wear long pants, long sleeves and gloves when handling. (Lantana guy got that part right :)

JMO
 
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What was he doing in Mexico 5 days ago? I suppose whomever told him to shut up knows now that he didn't shut up. He's toast either way..LE gets him for faking these letters and he gets no reward or he gets the reward and the main person and his minions get him for not keeping quiet.

I believe there is video at border crossings and if someone went there to purchase Nancy's meds and brought them back I think they have to declare them. I don't know if there are any places to cross without the eyes of the border patrol on you but I believe there must be.

MOO
Surprising if the guy is legit and really knows the culprits that he's still around.
 
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Authorities have expressed concern about Nancy Guthrie’s health because she needs vital daily medicine. She is said to have a pacemaker and have dealt with high blood pressure and heart issues, according to sheriff’s dispatcher audio on broadcastify.com.
 

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