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So the sheriff was working on the Nancy Guthrie/Savannah Guthrie case… arguably the biggest case of his career! Then his own brother dies, then he went to a division 1 basketball game sitting in the front row all within days of each other? Hmm , I’m wondering where his priorities lie ? I’m asking for a friend
he has people working on the care. He does not need to be present breathing down their necks. He can go to a game or out to eat or whatever. If something comes up it will be reported to him IMO. I’m not the biggest fan but the part about being sheriff means you don’t have to do all the work on a case yourself IMO
 
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The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.
I think it's a powerful message that if anyone messes around with our innocent 84 year old, sweet, living alone, health riddled grandma's, the dogs will be unleashed on your @ss!. Not a bad message. I'd like to hope and think even without SG influence this horrible crime would have still garnered a huge response from the world to help bring her home.
 
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The discussion about movie quotes has brought this to mind: the 2002 Beltway Sniper situation.

The person in charge of the investigation would say "caught like a duck in a noose" on camera.

At the time, my husband and I thought it was the strangest thing. Like code.

I just looked it up to try to remember more about it:


CBS News:

What does the phrase "caught like a duck in a noose" mean to the sniper?

Authorities are not revealing the context in which the sniper - if he is indeed the author of notes left for police - asked them to publicly say: "We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose."

Police Chief Charles Moose read that sentence aloud late Wednesday night, as part of his latest message to the sniper, adding: "We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

Link:


I'll never comprehend the "taunting LE" thing with some criminals. Like let me get away with a crime, but send them weirdo letters until they figure out its me.
 
  • #32,644
The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.
The pacemaker sniffer is so advanced that I've seen several experts not know what it is.
 
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I think it's a powerful message that if anyone messes around with our innocent 84 year old, sweet, living alone, health riddled grandma's, the dogs will be unleashed on your @ss!. Not a bad message. I'd like to hope and think even without SG influence this horrible crime would have still garnered a huge response from the world to help bring her home.
I do not think as many resources would have been thrown at it but for the SG connection. But as I said, I'm not complaining.
 
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The pacemaker sniffer is so advanced that I've seen several experts not know what it is.
Yeah. Its not widely know. I only studied it because im in a PhD program for cybersecurity.
 
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I agree but Friday's events seemed too grand for absolutely nothing.
I agree. Federal warrants are not like your average warrant. You need specific and compelling reasons -- backed by the evidence you have at the time -- to search a property. With what is required in a federal warrant, we know that Friday's SWAT team and the extensive property search was not a mistake and the reasons they searched that property surely are still applicable.

Now, though, LE and FBI have additional DNA evidence from NG's property and from the gloves and likely Land Rover evidence -- and possibly matches at a gun store with the gun and the perp as well as possibly having an ID from their Walmart backpack search.

Well-said. Friday's events were too grand for absolutely nothing!

JMO
 
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Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.

My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.

I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Just be careful with this stuff.
I prefer the ones who quietly delete as opposed to the ones who dig their heels in and continue to insist upon their pet theories, facts be damned.
 
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Yeah. Its not widely know. I only studied it because im in a PhD program for cybersecurity.
Oh, interesting, that's how you have such incredible expertise with cybersecurity. Thanks for educating all of us!
 
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On the second or third letter they issued a threat (speculating toward Nancy) of what they would do if they didn't get their money. They shifted from observer of kidnappers to kidnapper. Total bs
Do you have a source for this pls?
 
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NEW: The DNA from the glove in Nancy Guthrie case is still undergoing quality control in the Sheriff’s private lab in Florida after being sent from Tucson on 2/12. It is expected to be inputed into FBI CODIS in the near future, an FBI official tells me.
 
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I think her whole family is going to have some serious PTSD over this, no matter the outcome.
I don't know that they'll ever really recover. And AG saw the crime scene in the house so that image will likely stay with her as well. MOO
 
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NEW: "Unnecessary delays" in getting DNA from glove in Nancy Guthrie case into FBI database --

The decision to send the glove with DNA to a private lab in Florida is causing what one source familiar with the case calls “unnecessary delays” in getting the DNA entered into the FBI’s CODIS database.

That’s because the FBI does not accept DNA submissions directly from private labs. Instead, once testing is complete in Florida, it’s likely the DNA data extracted must first be sent back to the state system in Arizona where it can be uploaded and becomes shareable with the FBI for entry into CODIS.

That extra step adds time creating what the source describes as a “catch-up” process when the FBI could have processed and entered the data within a day, according to the source.
 
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Yeah. Its not widely know. I only studied it because im in a PhD program for cybersecurity.
omg! thanks for your expertise!! so impressive.
 
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Oh, interesting, that's how you have such incredible expertise with cybersecurity. Thanks for educating all of us!
I don't know much, but if I do know something, im happy to share!!
 
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NEW: The DNA from the glove in Nancy Guthrie case is still undergoing quality control in the Sheriff’s private lab in Florida after being sent from Tucson on 2/12. It is expected to be inputed into FBI CODIS in the near future, an FBI official tells me.
I still don't understand why DNA testing from a roadside glove is eliciting regular updates to the public.
 
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So the sheriff was working on the Nancy Guthrie/Savannah Guthrie case… arguably the biggest case of his career! Then his own brother dies, then he went to a division 1 basketball game sitting in the front row all within days of each other? Hmm , I’m wondering where his priorities lie ? I’m asking for a friend

His priorities, off duty, could have been trying to breathe after his brother’s very recent death.

He’s not a savvy public speaker and I can understand some public frustration with him. I don’t however understand the sentiment that it should be open season on him. I don’t believe he deserves that. IMO
 
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AB still has her video up with the thumbnail picture that states....
Son-in-law "Prime Suspect"

They were just beginning their investigation when AB leaked this information to the world.

There is a reason that LE do not name potential persons of interest and/or POI's until they are ready. It could not only harm the investigation but the victim and potentially innocent people.

And sad to say, even though TC has been cleared there will always be those who continue to think and/or accuse him of being involved thanks in huge part to AB.

These media folks are as human as we are and have the same kinds of biases and make the same kinds of mistakes that we make more often than we care to admit. They also have the same kinds of initial reactions (denial) and instinctive ego defenses ("but this or that therefore this still might be true") that we use when we're wrong. I find that as I age that I become more forgiving of folks for being wrong, because the older I get means the more times I've been wrong and the more times I've had to come to terms with being wrong and reacting in the same way.

AB didn't defame anyone by believing her source and reporting it. Or even by believing it herself if that was the case. She will only have defamed him if she keeps repeating it after he has been officially cleared and/or someone else is arrested, and most importantly, only if he could then prove a calculable injury from it.

JMO.
 
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I prefer the ones who quietly delete as opposed to the ones who dig their heels in and continue to insist upon their pet theories, facts be damned.
Im a quiet deleter!! Haha When im wrong, im wrong. And i can handle it!!
 
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NEW: The DNA from the glove in Nancy Guthrie case is still undergoing quality control in the Sheriff’s private lab in Florida after being sent from Tucson on 2/12. It is expected to be inputed into FBI CODIS in the near future, an FBI official tells me.
Maybe this is true. Hard knowing these days . . . I hope that the FBI already has the DNA from the glove and that the FBI is finishing up their quality control and getting the DNA inputted into CODIS. JMO
 

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