• #32,781
Are we sure there was someone inside with her?
If you’re already inside the house, why go up to the front door camera? Just block it and remove it from inside the front door so you aren’t seen by camera.
I wondered this SAME thing. It makes no sense to me I can’t make sense of it. Unless the perps hadn’t been to the front door yet and dint know exactly where the camera was or if there even was a camera.
 
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I was out most of the day and it’s hard to keep up with the threads. I feel such a strong sense of sadness. They have not arrived at a motive? I just cannot imagine the pain. I wish there was a way for FBI to pay ransom when it is first asked for and then track down the perps. Surely they have the tools to find them now.
 
  • #32,783
Has anyone wondered why they made the helicopters searching for the pacemaker info public?? I feel the perp would immediately then remove the pacemaker from her body..
 
  • #32,784
Are we sure there was someone inside with her?
If you’re already inside the house, why go up to the front door camera? Just block it and remove it from inside the front door so you aren’t seen by camera.
Of course we don't know if there was already someone inside. MOO is that there MIGHT have been a guy inside, subduing NG. Maybe he told another dude to go around the outside of the house and disable any cameras and break outdoor lights. Then the perp inside removes NG by exiting the front door evidenced by the trail of NG's blood left on the porch and walkway. Was she slung over someone's shoulder, maybe suffering from a nosebleed as a result from a slight tussle inside? Was she carried out to an awaiting get away vehicle? MAYBE. MOO.
 
  • #32,785

Why do you think there is a female accomplice? I have thought of this as well.
I agree, at least two people.

I think a neighbor reported a young couple (male and female) in a car his driveway, strangers in the past couple of months?

NG might come to the door if a young female was crying and pretending to be in distress?

I believe the young couple could be related to NG’s disappearance, and were scoping out the neighborhood.

Nanos cleared the siblings and spouses not all the family. I think they are intimating things yet unsaid. JMO

My thought, too. Extended family is not cleared.

I admit, I thought immediate family might be involved. (I’m not a journalist or influencer, the only place I’ve stated that as a possible scenario is here at WS).

Now the immediate family has been cleared, but I still think someone NG knows is responsible for her disappearance.

It was only stated Siblings and spouses...

So this doesn't include say, a niece just for example, a bit farther removed from immediate family.

Well, exactly.

IMO
 
  • #32,786
I think he's calm because he's got an accomplice inside handling NG. I mean the guy inside has the hard job and guy outside just has to disable the camera(s).
Good theory!
 
  • #32,787
I think that he WAS looking for something to block or smash the camera, but my point was about how he was moving about... it was like he was told to grab the plants beside the walkway, so he looked directly down to one side and didn't see any there and then was told to step down out of the walkway to grab the plants there. It was like he was following instructions as they were spoken aloud to him.

in earpiece ??
 
  • #32,788
All of these videos of people snooping around, while troubling in general that people snoop around that much, are not really that compelling to me in terms of their potential association with this crime. Show me videos of a man masked up like a 1980s professional wrestler and my opinion might change.

JMO.

Has anyone wondered why they made the helicopters searching for the pacemaker info public?? I feel the perp would immediately then remove the pacemaker from her body..
Maybe to get someone they are watching to make an escape move
 
  • #32,789
I wondered this SAME thing. It makes no sense to me I can’t make sense of it
Here's a thought . . . perhaps someone was already inside with her, while this man's job was to stay outside and clear a path from the front door, check for cameras, etc. so that the person inside could get Nancy out. with this man's help. He seems to be in no rush, moves in a nonchalant sort of way as if waiting while others things are going on inside. JMOOl
 
  • #32,790
How does he know there isn’t a silent alarm system in the house? You’d think in a neighborhood like that if you’re a stranger you have to think there might be an alarm system in place.

I think it’s a stranger to NG but not a stranger to somebody who did work in that house. And if that’s the case, what’s the motive? If it’s burglary why is he taking NG from the home?
If he knew the house or probably had an idea of if they had an alarm system. I don’t think that would change how the front camera was disabled.
I’ve said this before here, but I think based on the request for Jan 11 footage, he may been there before scooping it out to see the alarm situation.
 
  • #32,791
Has anyone wondered why they made the helicopters searching for the pacemaker info public?? I feel the perp would immediately then remove the pacemaker from her body..
That was happening in the first few days

Source - this article shows a photo from February 4th
Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation | Live Updates from Fox News Digital Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation
 
  • #32,792
Are we sure there was someone inside with her?
If you’re already inside the house, why go up to the front door camera? Just block it and remove it from inside the front door so you aren’t seen by camera.

IMO he’s by himself. He disables the camera possibly to prevent the camera from picking up his vehicle when it’s time for him to egress. He can’t do it from the inside coming out because he doesn’t know if something is going to go haywire that will cause him to have to exit the front at full speed.

But then again he was sloppy in his attempt to cover the camera so I’m not sure I can see him thinking two steps ahead.

I just want to know what gave him the confidence that there wasn’t a silent alarm system.

MOO
 
  • #32,793
Has anyone wondered why they made the helicopters searching for the pacemaker info public?? I feel the perp would immediately then remove the pacemaker from her body..
That seems very unlikely, my opinion only.
 
  • #32,794
Of course we don't know if there was already someone inside. MOO is that there MIGHT have been a guy inside, subduing NG. Maybe he told another dude to go around the outside of the house and disable any cameras and break outdoor lights. Then the perp inside removes NG by exiting the front door evidenced by the trail of NG's blood left on the porch and walkway. Was she slung over someone's shoulder, maybe suffering from a nosebleed as a result from a slight tussle inside? Was she carried out to an awaiting get away vehicle? MAYBE. MOO

Totally agree! I was just stating how dumb it was for him to access the front door camera from outside RATHER then the inside. That was a silly mistake. That’s the only point I was making after rewatching the footage. If this was the only entry point into the house then I get why, but it wasn’t.
It’s definitely obvious the front door was the easiest way out with her. Walking around the garage to the front carrying her would be super difficult.
 
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I have brightened and oversaturated the video (attached). Not sure it makes any difference but why not!
 

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  • #32,796
In Tricia’s chat people have said that LE has cleared the family but the FBI has not.
So it sounds like nothing has changed, officially .jmo
 
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In Tricia’s chat people have said that LE has cleared the family but the FBI has not.
and how would they know?
 
  • #32,798
Can we assume that the fact that the backpack was sold exclusively at Walmart is a significant breakthrough? Apparently, Walmart is known for their comprehensive “tracking” of purchasers, even having video of cash purchases.

Also, although the rest of the items could have been purchased elsewhere, I’d think that since they’re also sold at Walmart, and the backpack is only sold there, the perp may have purchased some of the other items there as well,

I wonder how long it takes Walmart to track down these purchases?
 
  • #32,799
I noticed this just now. Look at his droopy upper eyelids. They look to be almost covering his upper lashes. I thought he was quite young at first till I noticed this. View attachment 645655
I noticed this earlier too. Eyes usually don’t droop until after 40 and mostly later than 50. IMO
 
  • #32,800
I was out most of the day and it’s hard to keep up with the threads. I feel such a strong sense of sadness. They have not arrived at a motive? I just cannot imagine the pain. I wish there was a way for FBI to pay ransom when it is first asked for and then track down the perps. Surely they have the tools to find them now.
Once again, this is a highly complicated case. With very strong emotions felt by Nancy’s family. Sounds like a case where fear and superstition is trumping science and technology once again. (My opinion only)
 

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