AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Ghostwheel]

Yeah a universal cheapo vinyl holster profiled for a 6" large frame revolver hanging low off a belt loop in some goofy approximation of appendix carry with a late gen small frame semi auto tucked in is not the way to go if your life depended on it, or if you just don't want your gun falling out w/ any real movement. You also see them in $5 dollar bins at gun stores or yard sales.

But what's also strange is having a list of 40 guys and checking gun shops. AZ is a constitutional carry state that allows face to face cash private sales with no paperwork for handguns. It is also legal to borrow a gun. I highly doubt this guy went to his LGS and filled out a 4473 to buy the gun. But given the footage we saw on the Nest cam maybe Mr. Walmart Ninja did.

But maybe he needed ammo.....

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Can someone please refresh my memory, did we ever hear WHERE in NG’s home the unidentified DNA was located?

I ask because since we know that the DNA is not Nancy’s nor any family member’s, I’d have to assume it was in some out-of-the-way place?

Obviously Nancy’s DNA SHOULD be in her home, along with AG’s and TC’s, since they lived nearby and presumably were often in her house.

This may well have been explained 1000 pages ago, but at the moment I cannot recollect it.

TIA

It's not been revealed as to where the DNA was located that they found in the house or on the property. MOO

 

[penguinface]

Would you need to remove a camera to get the footage though? Is that common?

Maybe if you haven’t been able to get in touch with, or permission from, the home owner, until you get a warrant?

JMO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023843455706034483

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Quite possible perp isn't in CODIS but will hopefully be found through DNA genealogy.
MOO

 

[grumpybear55]

This is the first day I’ve searched on the Pima County Inmate site but from now on, I’ll be checking daily!

I'm confused as to the mention of this?

 

[Former Reporter]

As someone who pops in and out and doesn't always post or comment, I notice the thread is slowing down (it was NUTS last week), and that saddens me.

I think it indicates that newer posts are more thoughtful and appropriately sourced. The thread had so many rule violations that @tricia had to shut it down temporarily to delete all of them - people doxxing people who have not been named persons of interest, photos of said persons, presenting rumor as facts.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Maybe if you haven’t been able to get in touch with, or permission from the home owner, until you get a warrant?

JMO

That would be a very interesting situation IMO.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I hope they have looked at commercial and government satellites to see if any were in the general area around the time this occurred. They're not as fancy and as detailed as TV and movies portray, and video isn't likely either, but they can be used retroactively to identify and track vehicles, etc. if they were over the area.

JMO.

That's a brilliant idea. If there were satellites in the area at the time of this crime, as you said, they could identify and track vehicles. MOO

 

[penguinface]

I'm confused as to the mention of this?

There’s an official site where you can check current Pima County inmates, and you can search for names on there, such as those related to the Friday SWAT events.

Pima County Sheriff Department

Pima County Sheriff's Department.

www.sheriff.pima.gov

 

[ab01]

My thought exactly. The FBI put out a statement after the glove went through preliminary DNA analysis. My suspicion is it matched DNA in the house. Why else put out a statement on a random glove found 2 miles away?

“It did not trigger a match in CODIS & did not match DNA found at the property.”

DNA from the gloves did not match DNA recovered from NG property.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023843455706034483

 

[aamillaa]

Everything about this case seems so LOUD. The multiple searches at AGs and NGs. The DAILY updates on the gloves. Etc etc. I know there’s so much media attention but there can’t be that much more than Idaho and I don’t remember things feeling so loud. MOO

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023882988132659202

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Unless he steals his gear from Walmart.

JMO.

Facial recognition, AI cameras, high level inventory accounting and receipt checker combine to make that difficult. Maybe shoplifters can get away with stealing a holster but a backpack is a little tougher. Not to mention Walmart shoplifters that are caught get their photos taken and stored. I’m sure LE is combing through photos just in case this guy was ever caught shoplifting.

 

[fridaybaker]

That will only work if they actually have the perp's DNA, which I'm still skeptical of.

Yes. I think she’s lived there for quite some time. I’d imagine that there might be all kinds of DNA from various workers, visitors, etc.
Let’s hope, though.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

My thought exactly. The FBI put out a statement after the glove went through preliminary DNA analysis. My suspicion is it matched DNA in the house. Why else put out a statement on a random glove found 2 miles away?

Because the gloves were distinctive gloves that may have looked very similar to the Lantana guy's gloves and LE may have thought it was quite possible that the perp had discarded them.

JMO

 

[Sessiebo]

Everything about this case seems so LOUD. The multiple searches at AGs and NGs. The DAILY updates on the gloves. Etc etc. I know there’s so much media attention but there can’t be that much more than Idaho and I don’t remember things feeling so loud. MOO

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023882988132659202

Do you think this gives an advantage to the perp(s)?
All the information we get, he or they also can access.
Just curious about everyone's opinion on this

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023880165542293928

 

[SMK777]

Yeah, I've wondered if someone familiar to her lured her out of the house somehow. As in, "S has been in an accident. She's asking for you. We have to get there immediately. Come now!" Something like that.

But what about the sinister mask and gear on him?

 

[Former Reporter]

Do you think this gives an advantage to the perp(s)?
All the information we get, he or they also can access.
Just curious about everyone's opinion on this

I think it helps LE shape the narrative they want to advance. JMO.

 

[Sillybilly]

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Too many alerts in this thread, so we are having to close the discussion for review and cleanup.

Check back in an hour or so.

 

[tricia]

Check out pima county arrests.

If the arrest does not have to do with this case, PLEASE DO NOT POST IT.