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Finally a definite answer for this.
Yeah, I'm in the camp that the surveillance video was always intended to be seen and was staged as a distraction. It has too many inconsistencies for the character there to have really been capable of being useful in carrying out a crime. Those layers of gloves, for example, would have made using the gun impossible. The person is also not in that great of physical shape to, alone, carry NG out of the house. He also never reaches for the doorknob, goes to knock instead of ring, hides his face until he looks straight into the camera.But what about the sinister mask and gear on him?
I remember a poster here very early on who said the EXACT SAME THING. No idea where that post is in this long thread but, wow.From NBC News. They showed a picture on the Nightly News of the fist with a circle of where they think a ring is I'll see if I can find it.
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Nancy Guthrie live updates: No match in database for DNA evidence on gloves found 2 miles from home
Follow live updates as the search continues for clues to the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie.www.nbcnews.com
I don't believe the guy in the video would have been able to use the gun if his life depended on it given those clunky gloves. I really believe we're going to eventually learn that he was planted there as a distraction, that the video was always meant to be seen to distract us from the real perp. I'll try to make this the last time I state that case today. I just think we're thinking too much about him and should really be looking elsewhere.Yeah a universal cheapo vinyl holster profiled for a 6" large frame revolver hanging low off a belt loop in some goofy approximation of appendix carry with a late gen small frame semi auto tucked in is not the way to go if your life depended on it, or if you just don't want your gun falling out w/ any real movement. You also see them in $5 dollar bins at gun stores or yard sales.
But what's also strange is having a list of 40 guys and checking gun shops. AZ is a constitutional carry state that allows face to face cash private sales with no paperwork for handguns. It is also legal to borrow a gun. I highly doubt this guy went to his LGS and filled out a 4473 to buy the gun. But given the footage we saw on the Nest cam maybe Mr. Walmart Ninja did.
If the video was always “meant to be seen”, why would he go to the efforts to remove and take the camera?I don't believe the guy in the video would have been able to use the gun if his life depended on it given those clunky gloves. I really believe we're going to eventually learn that he was planted there as a distraction, that the video was always meant to be seen to distract us from the real perp. I'll try to make this the last time I state that case today. I just think we're thinking too much about him and should really be looking elsewhere.
I'm not the professional of course, but it would seem more useful to do the genetic genealogy on the unknown DNA found in the house. MOO
wish we knew which sample this is for. one might take "bloodline trace" as a hint it's presumed perp blood (i.e., from the house), but AFAIK we don't know whether any foreign DNA in the house was from a bodily fluid sample.
Absolutely. We don't know if the glove has anything to do with this case.I'm not the professional of course, but it would seem more useful to do the genetic genealogy on the unknown DNA found in the house. MOO
Agreed. DNA inside the house is more likely to yield results relevant to the case than a glove found 2 miles away. I suppose the hope was that he threw it out the car window.I'm not the professional of course, but it would seem more useful to do the genetic genealogy on the unknown DNA found in the house. MOO
This video is interesting; the FBI is at NG’s neighbor’s home.VIDEO: Here's a look at the two investigators who were just at Nancy Guthrie's neighbor's house.