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So “The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” he says. “They sent an investigator to check on her.” Sounds like after, but why did the neighbor report then?
 
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“What this sniffer does is it’s only looking for the physical address of Nancy. There are a million devices out there that use Bluetooth. We want to home in just on Nancy,” he told The Post.

“So it filters out all of the noise. If it gets close enough, it can do what’s called active scanning, where it tries to communicate with that device and then get more responses back from it.”

Kennedy said it was fortunate that Nancy’s pacemaker is a newer device that is paired with her phone.

“Because we know it’s paired to her phone, the device itself, when it’s not in range of her phone, will continuously reach out to try to see, ‘Hey, is that phone there? Can I connect to that phone?’
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Nancy was reported missing on Feb. 1. Authorities have received between 40,000 and 50,000 leads in the mystifying case.
 
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But what about the sinister mask and gear on him?
Yeah, I'm in the camp that the surveillance video was always intended to be seen and was staged as a distraction. It has too many inconsistencies for the character there to have really been capable of being useful in carrying out a crime. Those layers of gloves, for example, would have made using the gun impossible. The person is also not in that great of physical shape to, alone, carry NG out of the house. He also never reaches for the doorknob, goes to knock instead of ring, hides his face until he looks straight into the camera.
 
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From NBC News. They showed a picture on the Nightly News of the fist with a circle of where they think a ring is I'll see if I can find it.

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I remember a poster here very early on who said the EXACT SAME THING. No idea where that post is in this long thread but, wow.

And: My hat's off to all of you who see things in photos! I can't ever see anything and it's so frustrating.
 
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Yeah a universal cheapo vinyl holster profiled for a 6" large frame revolver hanging low off a belt loop in some goofy approximation of appendix carry with a late gen small frame semi auto tucked in is not the way to go if your life depended on it, or if you just don't want your gun falling out w/ any real movement. You also see them in $5 dollar bins at gun stores or yard sales.

But what's also strange is having a list of 40 guys and checking gun shops. AZ is a constitutional carry state that allows face to face cash private sales with no paperwork for handguns. It is also legal to borrow a gun. I highly doubt this guy went to his LGS and filled out a 4473 to buy the gun. But given the footage we saw on the Nest cam maybe Mr. Walmart Ninja did.
I don't believe the guy in the video would have been able to use the gun if his life depended on it given those clunky gloves. I really believe we're going to eventually learn that he was planted there as a distraction, that the video was always meant to be seen to distract us from the real perp. I'll try to make this the last time I state that case today. I just think we're thinking too much about him and should really be looking elsewhere.
 
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I don't believe the guy in the video would have been able to use the gun if his life depended on it given those clunky gloves. I really believe we're going to eventually learn that he was planted there as a distraction, that the video was always meant to be seen to distract us from the real perp. I'll try to make this the last time I state that case today. I just think we're thinking too much about him and should really be looking elsewhere.
If the video was always “meant to be seen”, why would he go to the efforts to remove and take the camera?

JMO
 
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Here is the video from NBC News pointing out what could be a ring on the glove at 0:45

 
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wish we knew which sample this is for. one might take "bloodline trace" as a hint it's presumed perp blood (i.e., from the house), but AFAIK we don't know whether any foreign DNA in the house was from a bodily fluid sample.

would be annoyed if it's one of the random gloves of unknown provenance.
 
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Two officials came out to the side of one of Guthrie’s neighbors’ homes with a ladder and appeared to be checking the surveillance camera and looking at a phone. CNN has reached out for clarification about what investigators were doing.

At Guthrie’s house, Pima County Sheriff’s Department vehicles were seen in the driveway. CNN crews saw one person come out of the house with a bag, wearing blue gloves, before driving away.

A spokesperson for the Pima County Sheriff’s Department told CNN investigators are in the area “conducting follow up investigations.”
 
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2/17 GUTHRIE UPDATE 2DNA: The DNA that was submitted to CODIS was from the set of gloves found 2 miles away. It did not trigger a match in the national CODIS database and did not match DNA found at the property. The DNA found at the property is being analyzed and further testing needs to be done as part of the investigation.

 
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I'm not the professional of course, but it would seem more useful to do the genetic genealogy on the unknown DNA found in the house. MOO
Absolutely. We don't know if the glove has anything to do with this case.
 
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I'm not the professional of course, but it would seem more useful to do the genetic genealogy on the unknown DNA found in the house. MOO
Agreed. DNA inside the house is more likely to yield results relevant to the case than a glove found 2 miles away. I suppose the hope was that he threw it out the car window.
 
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The new line of investigative inquiry comes as the Pima County Sheriff’s Department said the DNA sample did not match any entries in the FBI’s database of known offenders.

The burgeoning field of investigative genealogy has been instrumental in past cases, including the killing of four Idaho university students by Bryan Kohberger.

The procedure analyzes DNA samples uploaded to publicly available systems used to map someone’s family tree.

Criminal investigators can take an unknown suspect’s DNA profile and upload it to a public database and then use the genealogical information and other evidence to build back through the family tree and identify potential suspects.
 
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VIDEO: Here's a look at the two investigators who were just at Nancy Guthrie's neighbor's house.

This video is interesting; the FBI is at NG’s neighbor’s home.

I’m curious if this is the neighbor that lost her power, or just the video on her camera?

The phone in the agent’s hand doesn’t appear to be his (IMO) many of my female friends’ phones are encased in multi-colored flowers.

When I lost power on one of my Ring cameras, I had to be next to it to it with my phone to repower/refigure it.

I wonder if that camera had a view of NG’s home or the street in front?

MOOOOO…🐮
 

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