AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[thefragile7393]

I am perplexed about the amount of information all police agencies are putting out to the public. Why tell everyone about the black gloves? Why tell everyone about the pacemaker tracker on the helicopter? Why not put tents all over the property when doing searches so media people can’t see what’s being done? I’m used to Canadian police who are so tight-lipped for a reason.

IMO this is hardly anything. It's...not much at all

 

[Cassie P]

I think they will lose customers. Ancestry was the first database and it is the hugest one, with trees.

I know that 23@me was going down the drain long before their database was broken into. Just a couple of irrational decisions of their very nice prior CEO appeared to have zero foresight.

With FTDNA, you decide what you get, pros and cons, but they send me so many emails with such good deals that i assume they are struggling.

My heritage made several mistakes. When their database was used for a criminal’s DNA comparison (apparently they were unaware), they increased the cost of their services. Just at this very moment…So I know people are disinterested now. (“We pay more, and it is not even safe”). All the more so that their DNA tests are meh.

So the issue is, I might agree for my DNA to be used for police. Or not. But it is my decision. As the paying customer, I should have the choice with the company. If there is none, I’ll look for a competitor that gives me the choice. Or just walk away because consider this, genealogy boom was around 2015. Not anymore.

FTDNA was the first company to offer GF testing and analysis, including autosomal, YDNA, MtDNA. It was the go to company when it started in 2000 and for quite some time. To this day it is the best place to go for YDNA and MtDNA testing.

Ancestry did not offer autosomal kits until 2012 and did not become the power house it is today until some years later. People used FTDNA for quite some time. It had more tools for analysis as did GedMatch and the larger data bases at the time.

Now of course Ancestry is the site with the largest data base, and has the fabulous genealogy trees attached to the matches in many cases and the ability for people to make family trees with lots of help and support. They have done very sophisticated norm group research so the ethnic breakdown and historical location of ancestors is amazing. It is the go to site now.

I don't know about the thought process of younger people and LE involvement. Some older people were not so concerned about big brother or LE access back in the day. The figured that if a relative committed a crime then and got nabbed that was fine. But the threat of Big Brother accessing data is more a concern today I think.

 

[Tortoise]

I would have expected to find the front door open, because every touch of the handle was another opportunity for leaving DNA.

I suspect (as others have suggested) he was carrying Nancy in a fireman's lift, (Nancy doesn't appear to have left footprints) and stopped and turned to close the door, which is where the blood drips are more concentrated. I also suspect he went out via the front and not the back because it was a shortest distance to his vehicle carrying her and from wherever he lifted her in the house.

Speculation & MOO

 

[joe jones]

the kidnapper theory (which I never thought it was) must surely have been discounted by LE now, there has been as far as we know zero contact with anybody asking for money except the man who says he knows who has NG but the kidnappers let him wander away asking only that he keeps his mouth shut, obviously not scared of them he contacts TMZ and says he will give up kidnappers for money, kidnappers appear unconcerned that man is selling them out and he is still able to send messages, you cannot make this stuff up

according to TMZ messenger the so called kidnappers went to all the time, money and effort to kidnap NG transport her secretly across the border but are not concerned that he knows who they are and is selling them out to TMZ,

with no arrests and seemingly no idea who did this it just goes to show to me how crimes committed by a stranger are incredibly difficult to solve

 

[shonyakay]

And I don’t think they ever said it was AI-generated, or words to the effect that it has been doctored or manipulated in any way. I saw someone on here claim that they saw the word “altered” or something similar in the corner in the photo, but I think, if they did see that, it might have been erroneously added by someone else online when they shared it, rather than the FBI-released original.

JMO

I haven't personally seen anything that states that still image was A.I. generated. Not saying that it wasn't stated somewhere by someone that it was A I. generated at any point I am just personally unaware if that is the case.

 

[warp3dwing]

I would have expected to find the front door open, because every touch of the handle was another opportunity for leaving DNA.

I suspect (as others have suggested) he was carrying Nancy in a fireman's lift, (Nancy doesn't appear to have left footprints) and stopped and turned to close the door, which is where the blood drips are more concentrated. I also suspect he went out via the front and not the back because it was a shortest distance to his vehicle carrying her and from wherever he lifted her in the house.

Speculation & MOO

You can also see that the upper part of his hand - maybe his knuckles - touched the screen door when he was messing with the Nest cam. You can see the door knob and lock move back and forth a bit when we does this.

 

[captdj]

Unless he’s not close enough to the door to have activated a motion-sensitive light on the Nest camera or porch light, possibly.

JMO

He had shadows from the beginning of the walkway. The moon had to be up and bright. But the one without was a different time IMO

 

[RayVon]

I believe that is correct. I read the suspect took the door camera. I read you can often restore a Nest camera's connection without physical access to the camera by using the Google Home or Nest app to power cycle, reboot, or update network settings. If the camera is offline due to a power/Wi-Fi outage, it may auto-reconnect once power/internet is restored.

I think the suspect could have used the lantana to try to help him remove it. We don't know if he was successful at that exact point.
He may have tried with the lantana and then left it on it's bracket, removed Nancy, and then came back and fully removed the camera at that point. The FBI may have more door cam footage that they are just not sharing with the public.

And maybe stuffed camera into already full backpack.

 

[logical]

If burglary was the intent and injuring NG (or her having a medical emergency) was not part of the plan, I would think a criminal would want to take NG with them.

It’s common that criminals believe “no body, no crime”.

And we’ve seen how important finding the body is on many cases here at Websleuths.

 

[Jenny9]

No.

No

 

[joe jones]

I am critiquing not criticizing but once again I see LE going into NG house with no protective coverings to preserve what to me is a crime scene, no matter how many times LE says it isn't,

IMO they should go back to day 1 and do a complete forensic reexamination of her home and property, the crime scene is the only place at the moment where there is any possible evidence, and fresh eyes may see or find something new which could move the case forward

 

[penguinface]

He had shadows from the beginning of the walkway. The moon had to be up and bright. But the one without was a different time IMO

I’d agree that it’s a different time, but IMO, only by about forty minutes to an hour or two.

JMO

 

[logical]

I would think that when the suspect pulled the flashlight out of his mouth at the front door, there was a good chance some saliva dripped onto the front door mat.

I’m very surprised the mat was taken as evidence as the suspect also stood on it, and perhaps there was fiber transfer from anywhere the suspect has been (vehicle carpet, something from his home, etc)

 

[joe jones]

I have everything crossed that eventually they may retrieve more video from other cameras which may help, and I would love to know what door he entered via, as all the drone videos I have seen show all the doors are undamaged on the back of her property,

 

[aafromaa]

I'm still perplexed by this. What prompted the neighbor to call APS?

According to the timeline we have, NG was dropped off between 9pm and 10pm on Saturday. Then she failed to attend the virtual church service at her friend's house on Sunday. This prompted the friend to call AG, who went to the home, found NG missing, and called LE.

Where did the neighbor come in? If she was also at the church service, certainly there was a discussion among the attendees regarding NG's whereabouts and the decision to call AG. So why call APS? And if the neighbor was not at the church service, again, why call APS?

Kinda wondering the same thing Steff13. I did not expect to hear that a neighbor called APS the day she was reported missing but I’d like to know why and what time. Surely it was before the family arrived shortly before noon. AZ APS does have 24/7 reporting available online but they said the neighbor “called” and on the weekends they don’t take calls until 10am so if the neighbor literally called then it would seem they called between 10am-11am. MOO But why? If they were part of the group who attended the virtual church service why call APS about her not showing up for one service? The call to the family certainly makes more sense for that. So I’m wondering whether it was a neighbor who knew NG always left her house at a certain time on Sun mornings and didn’t see her leave and went to the house to check on her and perhaps saw the blood drops at the front door and was concerned NG had hurt herself and they couldn’t get her to come to the door. But I would think a call to 911 for a welfare check would be more in order for that than a call to APS to report possible abuse. Honestly I think I have more questions about the APS card now than I did before we were told a neighbor called them.

 

[Idreamofgenie]

In terms of the shoes, I'm wondering if they aren't something like this - JMO





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The soles have the square pattern that could have made the transfer pattern in the blood on the porch. Earlier post linked here
AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Finally we’re discussing the SHOES! I think they’re unique and as I stated many posts before, you can see his toe impressions on the tops of the shoes, making it appear almost like socks in several frames. Would this be because the tops of the shoes are a malleable fabric? I’m interested to hear opinions on his shoes.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“I think this was an individual who had a target for whatever reason, and he has made it tough, but I've got some pretty tough investigators too,” Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos told NBC’s Liz Kreutz in a new interview which aired on the Today show on Wednesday, Feb. 18.

Nanos said he’s more focused on the DNA they recovered at Nancy’s house not matching any of her close acquaintances. While a glove found two miles from Nancy’s home was sent for DNA testing and came back with no matches in the national DNA database, Nanos noted his focus is centered on the DNA in Nancy’s home, saying, "We believe we may have some DNA there that may be our suspect, but we won't know that until that DNA is separated, sorted out. To me, that's more critical than any glove I found two miles away.”

Nancy Guthrie's Captor Had a 'Target,' Says Sheriff: 'He Has Made It Tough'

Savannah Guthrie's 84-year-old mom was taken from her Tucson, Ariz., home in the early morning hours of Feb. 1

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[MistyWaters]

I am perplexed about the amount of information all police agencies are putting out to the public. Why tell everyone about the black gloves? Why tell everyone about the pacemaker tracker on the helicopter? Why not put tents all over the property when doing searches so media people can’t see what’s being done? I’m used to Canadian police who are so tight-lipped for a reason.

I totally agree. Following this case is like a play-by-play of not only collecting evidence but working it too. Plus the Sheriff having chats with reporters about the case, answering questions and releasing bits and pieces of information as opposed to holding a formal press conferences. . Night and day from Canada’s system that is much more formal.
JMO

 

[joe jones]

I only wish I had his luck, he won the lottery of criminals considering (IMO) he isn't very sophisticated, and looks opportunistic,

 

[turaj]

I am critiquing not criticizing but once again I see LE going into NG house with no protective coverings to preserve what to me is a crime scene, no matter how many times LE says it isn't,

IMO they should go back to day 1 and do a complete forensic reexamination of her home and property, the crime scene is the only place at the moment where there is any possible evidence, and fresh eyes may see or find something new which could move the case forward

the home is the crime scene and I don't know how it can be available for people to just work at and enter. To do a complete forensic reexamination at this point seems. futile.