AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[warp3dwing]

I have it in my yard now in California and it's easy to pull but it has thick woody stems as opposed to herbaceous.

Thanks! So, what you’re seeing in the video is what you might expect for someone grabbing a fistful of it?

 

[submarine7]

I'm glad to see it finally occurred to him, or was explained to him, that talking about everyone one of those emails could change someone's behavior, or reveal something he didn't intend to.

Definitely odd and seemingly very purposeful.

 

[K9Enzo]

What???? Could you please expand?

Not my comment but here's a link. imo

Savannah Guthrie's Book Details 'Eerie' Pre-Dawn 'Kidnapping' Game Her Family Used to Play

Read the excerpt from Savannah Guthrie's book in which she described a mock "kidnapping" game she used to play with her family.

entertainmentnow.com

 

[penguinface]

There was also another what looked like a camera removed from NGs front middle of home attached to roof by LE days after the event. You can find the reports earlier in this thread. So different camera, different angle. Different lighting seems as though it could acct for these discrepancies?

I thought that camera was at, and/or facing the rear or side of the house, maybe installed on the roof of the pool house type building? Happy to stand corrected though.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

There has been a lot of back and forth about a single image of the masked man which I'll call the No-Backpack Image
Note that the backpack straps and gun are not visible:

View attachment 646178

So far I've seen people claim:

• "The FBI used AI to manipulate the image"
• "Media used AI to manipulate the image"
• "This is proof that the FBI actually have more videos"
• "It's a different person altogether"

I don't know if any of those are true, but what I've done to check is downloaded each of the images and videos released by Cash Patel (Director of the FBI) from this source to compare them, and I've discovered a few interesting clues:

• The No-Backpack image is not a single frame from any of the three videos released to the public (altered or not) - The man has a completely different pose.
• There is no meta data showing the original date created (if there was, it was lost when the image was uploaded to X)
• The "Nest" logo is not shown (is it cropped?)
• The image size is tiny - resolution is 367 x 546 pixels - this is basically just a thumbnail
• No-Backapck man is not casting a shadow from the moonlight before he steps under the cover of the the porch (in the other videos, his shadow is obvious)

FIrstly, I have overlaid the No-Backpack image (367x546) over one of the FBI's other full resolution images (1536x2048) to compare the size. This makes the size / resolution disparity quite obvious:

View attachment 646173

Next I have grabbed a capture from one of the videos that shows the man, roughly in the same position, before he enters the porch (right).
No-Backpack man (left) casts no shadow. Backpack man (right) casts an obvious shadow from the Moonlight
(Note I have cropped/resized images to match each other)
View attachment 646175
For reference Moonrise on that night was around 4:54 p.m. local time, and moonset was about 6:44 a.m. the next morning.
At around 2am the moon (almost full, 98% brightness) was in the west (to the left looking out of the porch)
The weather in Tuscon at the time was clear. So there should have been bright moonlight all night.

So what does this tell us ?
1. No-Backpack image was taken at a different time

• Without meta data we don't know the date/time
• We can probably assume that it was before the other videos (since it looks like he eventually ripped the doorbell camera off its mount and took it with him)
• It could have been the same evening, but a random cloud was obscuring the moon at that moment
• It could be days before (a reconnaissance mission perhaps?)

2. The properties of No-Backpack image is significantly different to the other images/videos

• It's cropped (not full frame - refer to the image with the hand/glove - way more of the brick archway is visible)
• It is very low resolution - meaning it might be a thumbnail or a still image from a notification

Thumbnails are a graphic representation of one or multiple files, like when you're looking through a photo gallery with 18 images shown on your screen, each of those small images are a single, low resolution thumbnail file.
Without them, you would only see a list of filenames.

Notification images are like a snapshot of an event that might be shown in the Nest App. Again, low resolution.

3. Was the image manipulated/altered to remove the backpack/gun?
- We can't tell for sure, but I think it's very unlikely.

4. Is No-Backpack image from another video that hasn't been released?
- Probably not. If the FBI had a full resolution video, it would not make any sense to crop and resize a single frame to release to the public in such low resolution).

That's all I have. I hope it clears things up a little, and I apologise for the essay.

Thank you agree, 2 different people.

Absolutely but Leads and tips need to be prioritized. Their would need to be some direction of evidence to give investigators areas to look IMO. Just doing random searches of the vast area wouldn't be likely pertinent as the OP suggested.

I do think the initial crime scene evidence likely told them this was unlikely to be a rescue situation. In addition I think it's unlikely they have been able to recover evidence as of yet how she was removed what specific make/yr of vehicle was used and directions of where the vehicle was heading.

That really makes to tough to deploy massive ground searches bc they would have no clue where to look. I believe that's a big reason that they kept focusing on the area around her home for as long as they have. It would make sense that they would keep hoping that they missed something that would give them a direction of where to search. Hopefully that information is still yet to be discovered IE recovered camera footage.

agreed, we have all seen grid searches done by professionals and the public. there was a grid map at one point.

In this case, there were FBI ( walking)searchers sent to look on ground, but from the video I saw, not super thorough ( no shade). They couldn't really get into some of the brush, a combo of sharp cacti, tumbleweed, vines, not easy to look under.

Now imagine( sorry), that NG is really about 10 miles away under some brush,
That’s probably, IMO only, why it was mainly a recovery mission from the start.

All JMO

 

[stmichael]

It is my understanding that it has been said that the 40 pics of people were from 40 different people that purchased the holster recently at local stores.

source?

my latest understanding is that it can be a suspect pool list, where most of the 40 are random and there are 3-4 actual POI in there. Nanos clearly denied the other day they have 40 suspects but I've seen no official statement on results from investigation any of the speculated purchase traces (they have said Walmart handed over purchase records, but not for what).

edit: and really its "a holster" not "the holster" as Walmart is not the only one selling a poly universal revolver holster. I posted about it and included a $12 model, basically the same holster (different brand) sold currently at MidwayUSA, and many clones have been sold over the decades (these are made for revolvers dating back to the 1960s). They have no idea what holster was bought/used going off the visuals.

 

[submarine7]

Thanks! So, what you’re seeing in the video is what you might expect for someone grabbing a fistful of it?

With those awkwardly thick gloved hands it seems normal.

 

[Nikynoo]

Snipped by me

I can’t get past how full the backpack was. Typically a burglar with a backpack would have it to put things in as he steals them. A burglar might have a few tools - lock picks or pry bars or something but not a backpack full of whatever he has in there.

There was a post either late last night or earlier this morning. It was opined that the backpack contained another backpack.

 

[SMK777]

I suppose it doesn't matter how they narrow down the list of possible suspects but I am taken aback that they have 40 people on a list of possible suspects. Plus, it seems kind of dumb to buy the gun you intend to use in a crime from a gun store. MOOooo

Additionally, if these are criminals the gun may have been around for years, bought in a different area at a long ago time and location. It's a worry.

 

[SaraSmile]

I'm glad to see it finally occurred to him, or was explained to him, that talking about everyone one of those emails could change someone's behavior, or reveal something he didn't intend to.

I’m glad they are moving on from ransom idea. Ok, for back burner.

JMO

 

[Mistermagoo]

I thought that camera was at, and/or facing the rear of the house, maybe installed on the roof of the pool house type building? Happy to stand corrected though.

JMO

Did the sheriff or anyone ever say that their was a camera on or by the damaged flood light. While we are at it, did anyone ever verify whether the flood light and brick were damaged before that night?

 

[Mistermagoo]

source?

my latest understanding is that it can be a suspect pool list, where most of the 40 are random and there are 3-4 actual POI in there. Nanos clearly denied the other day they have 40 suspects but I've seen no official statement on results from investigation any of the speculated purchase traces (they have said Walmart handed over purchase records, but not for what).

 

[BigCityAccountant]

DBM

 

[SlimPickens]

There has been a lot of back and forth about a single image of the masked man which I'll call the No-Backpack Image
Note that the backpack straps and gun are not visible:

View attachment 646178

So far I've seen people claim:

• "The FBI used AI to manipulate the image"
• "Media used AI to manipulate the image"
• "This is proof that the FBI actually have more videos"
• "It's a different person altogether"

I don't know if any of those are true, but what I've done to check is downloaded each of the images and videos released by Cash Patel (Director of the FBI) from this source to compare them, and I've discovered a few interesting clues:

• The No-Backpack image is not a single frame from any of the three videos released to the public (altered or not) - The man has a completely different pose.
• There is no meta data showing the original date created (if there was, it was lost when the image was uploaded to X)
• The "Nest" logo is not shown (is it cropped?)
• The image size is tiny - resolution is 367 x 546 pixels - this is basically just a thumbnail
• No-Backpack man is not casting a shadow from the moonlight before he steps under the cover of the the porch (in the other videos, his shadow is obvious)

FIrstly, I have overlaid the No-Backpack image (367x546) over one of the FBI's other full resolution images (1536x2048) to compare the size. This makes the size / resolution disparity quite obvious:

View attachment 646173

Next I have grabbed a capture from one of the videos that shows the man, roughly in the same position, before he enters the porch (right).
No-Backpack man (left) casts no shadow. Backpack man (right) casts an obvious shadow from the Moonlight
(Note I have cropped/resized images to match each other)
View attachment 646175
For reference Moonrise on that night was around 4:54 p.m. local time, and moonset was about 6:44 a.m. the next morning.
At around 2am the moon (almost full, 98% brightness) was in the west (to the left looking out of the porch)
The weather in Tuscon at the time was clear. So there should have been bright moonlight all night.

So what does this tell us ?
1. No-Backpack image was taken at a different time

• Without meta data we don't know the date/time
• We can probably assume that it was before the other videos (since it looks like he eventually ripped the doorbell camera off its mount and took it with him)
• It could have been the same evening, but a random cloud was obscuring the moon at that moment
• It could be days before (a reconnaissance mission perhaps?)

2. The properties of No-Backpack image is significantly different to the other images/videos

• It's cropped (not full frame - refer to the image with the hand/glove - way more of the brick archway is visible)
• It is very low resolution - meaning it might be a thumbnail or a still image from a notification

Thumbnails are a graphic representation of one or multiple files, like when you're looking through a photo gallery with 18 images shown on your screen, each of those small images are a single, low resolution thumbnail file.
Without them, you would only see a list of filenames.

Notification images are like a snapshot of an event that might be shown in the Nest App. Again, low resolution.
With Thumbnails and Notification images, the metadata does not necessarily reflect the time that the original image was captured. So Google/FBI may not know what time/date the No-Backpack event actually happened.

3. Was the image manipulated/altered to remove the backpack/gun?
- We can't tell for sure, but I think it's very unlikely.

4. Is No-Backpack image from another video that hasn't been released?
- Probably not. If the FBI had a full resolution video, it would not make any sense to crop and resize a single frame to release to the public in such low resolution).

That's all I have. I hope it clears things up a little, and I apologise for the essay.

No backpack image was probably snapped/recorded on January 11, which is why they are wanting neighbors and area residents to check their cameras on that specific date. Appears to have different shoes on too, but that could just be due to low resolution of the no backpack image.

JMO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"I’m going to give that to my team. They’ll look at that. They’ll analyze it and we’ll see," he shared with NBC News. "Maybe it is [a ring]."

"I look at the same photo you look at and I get it. I see it," he added.

Authorities in Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance Are 'Analyzing' Possible New Clue in Doorbell Footage of Suspect, Sheriff Reveals

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos may have found another clue that could help authorities locate Savannah Guthrie's missing mom, Nancy Guthrie. In the doorbell camera footage, the male suspect was wearing gloves, and in one frame, there appears to be a bump near the pinky finger, which Nanos...

www.aol.com

 

[submarine7]

Did the sheriff or anyone ever say that their was a camera on or by the damaged flood light. While we are at it, did anyone ever verify whether the flood light and brick were damaged before that night?

He addressed cameras in his latest BE video. He doesn't specify where the other cameras were.

Google trying to recover footage from Nancy Guthrie’s home cameras: Sheriff

Investigators are still working to determine what led to Guthrie’s disappearance, but Sheriff Chris Nanos told NewsNation he has “100% faith” they’ll solve the case.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[Nikynoo]

There has been a lot of back and forth about a single image of the masked man which I'll call the No-Backpack Image
Note that the backpack straps and gun are not visible:

View attachment 646178

So far I've seen people claim:

• "The FBI used AI to manipulate the image"
• "Media used AI to manipulate the image"
• "This is proof that the FBI actually have more videos"
• "It's a different person altogether"

I don't know if any of those are true, but what I've done to check is downloaded each of the images and videos released by Cash Patel (Director of the FBI) from this source to compare them, and I've discovered a few interesting clues:

• The No-Backpack image is not a single frame from any of the three videos released to the public (altered or not) - The man has a completely different pose.
• There is no meta data showing the original date created (if there was, it was lost when the image was uploaded to X)
• The "Nest" logo is not shown (is it cropped?)
• The image size is tiny - resolution is 367 x 546 pixels - this is basically just a thumbnail
• No-Backpack man is not casting a shadow from the moonlight before he steps under the cover of the the porch (in the other videos, his shadow is obvious)

FIrstly, I have overlaid the No-Backpack image (367x546) over one of the FBI's other full resolution images (1536x2048) to compare the size. This makes the size / resolution disparity quite obvious:

View attachment 646173

Next I have grabbed a capture from one of the videos that shows the man, roughly in the same position, before he enters the porch (right).
No-Backpack man (left) casts no shadow. Backpack man (right) casts an obvious shadow from the Moonlight
(Note I have cropped/resized images to match each other)
View attachment 646175
For reference Moonrise on that night was around 4:54 p.m. local time, and moonset was about 6:44 a.m. the next morning.
At around 2am the moon (almost full, 98% brightness) was in the west (to the left looking out of the porch)
The weather in Tuscon at the time was clear. So there should have been bright moonlight all night.

So what does this tell us ?
1. No-Backpack image was taken at a different time

• Without meta data we don't know the date/time
• We can probably assume that it was before the other videos (since it looks like he eventually ripped the doorbell camera off its mount and took it with him)
• It could have been the same evening, but a random cloud was obscuring the moon at that moment
• It could be days before (a reconnaissance mission perhaps?)

2. The properties of No-Backpack image is significantly different to the other images/videos

• It's cropped (not full frame - refer to the image with the hand/glove - way more of the brick archway is visible)
• It is very low resolution - meaning it might be a thumbnail or a still image from a notification

Thumbnails are a graphic representation of one or multiple files, like when you're looking through a photo gallery with 18 images shown on your screen, each of those small images are a single, low resolution thumbnail file.
Without them, you would only see a list of filenames.

Notification images are like a snapshot of an event that might be shown in the Nest App. Again, low resolution.
With Thumbnails and Notification images, the metadata does not necessarily reflect the time that the original image was captured. So Google/FBI may not know what time/date the No-Backpack event actually happened.

3. Was the image manipulated/altered to remove the backpack/gun?
- We can't tell for sure, but I think it's very unlikely.

4. Is No-Backpack image from another video that hasn't been released?
- Probably not. If the FBI had a full resolution video, it would not make any sense to crop and resize a single frame to release to the public in such low resolution).

That's all I have. I hope it clears things up a little, and I apologise for the essay.

Amazing!! Thank you!!

 

[submarine7]

No backpack image was probably snapped/recorded on February 11, which is why they are wanting neighbors and area residents to check their cameras on that specific date. Appears to have different shoes on too, but that could just be due to low resolution of the no backpack image.

JMO.

Or the FBI altered the image to showcase clothing etc

 

[Tortoise]

There has been a lot of back and forth about a single image of the masked man which I'll call the No-Backpack Image
Note that the backpack straps and gun are not visible:

View attachment 646178

So far I've seen people claim:

• "The FBI used AI to manipulate the image"
• "Media used AI to manipulate the image"
• "This is proof that the FBI actually have more videos"
• "It's a different person altogether"

I don't know if any of those are true, but what I've done to check is downloaded each of the images and videos released by Cash Patel (Director of the FBI) from this source to compare them, and I've discovered a few interesting clues:

• The No-Backpack image is not a single frame from any of the three videos released to the public (altered or not) - The man has a completely different pose.
• There is no meta data showing the original date created (if there was, it was lost when the image was uploaded to X)
• The "Nest" logo is not shown (is it cropped?)
• The image size is tiny - resolution is 367 x 546 pixels - this is basically just a thumbnail
• No-Backpack man is not casting a shadow from the moonlight before he steps under the cover of the the porch (in the other videos, his shadow is obvious)

FIrstly, I have overlaid the No-Backpack image (367x546) over one of the FBI's other full resolution images (1536x2048) to compare the size. This makes the size / resolution disparity quite obvious:

View attachment 646173

Next I have grabbed a capture from one of the videos that shows the man, roughly in the same position, before he enters the porch (right).
No-Backpack man (left) casts no shadow. Backpack man (right) casts an obvious shadow from the Moonlight
(Note I have cropped/resized images to match each other)
View attachment 646175
For reference Moonrise on that night was around 4:54 p.m. local time, and moonset was about 6:44 a.m. the next morning.
At around 2am the moon (almost full, 98% brightness) was in the west (to the left looking out of the porch)
The weather in Tuscon at the time was clear. So there should have been bright moonlight all night.

So what does this tell us ?
1. No-Backpack image was taken at a different time

• Without meta data we don't know the date/time
• We can probably assume that it was before the other videos (since it looks like he eventually ripped the doorbell camera off its mount and took it with him)
• It could have been the same evening, but a random cloud was obscuring the moon at that moment
• It could be days before (a reconnaissance mission perhaps?)

2. The properties of No-Backpack image is significantly different to the other images/videos

• It's cropped (not full frame - refer to the image with the hand/glove - way more of the brick archway is visible)
• It is very low resolution - meaning it might be a thumbnail or a still image from a notification

Thumbnails are a graphic representation of one or multiple files, like when you're looking through a photo gallery with 18 images shown on your screen, each of those small images are a single, low resolution thumbnail file.
Without them, you would only see a list of filenames.

Notification images are like a snapshot of an event that might be shown in the Nest App. Again, low resolution.
With Thumbnails and Notification images, the metadata does not necessarily reflect the time that the original image was captured. So Google/FBI may not know what time/date the No-Backpack event actually happened.

3. Was the image manipulated/altered to remove the backpack/gun?
- We can't tell for sure, but I think it's very unlikely.

4. Is No-Backpack image from another video that hasn't been released?
- Probably not. If the FBI had a full resolution video, it would not make any sense to crop and resize a single frame to release to the public in such low resolution).

That's all I have. I hope it clears things up a little, and I apologise for the essay.

Possibly he stood there, where he had the option of a quick exit, to activate the door camera and see if he could see any reaction like a light going on inside the house, or a dog barking. It's possible then he thought the house could be empty and went to gather his gear from a vehicle, taking his gun in case he was wrong. MOO

 

[SaraSmile]

She certainly does know a pilot, but he is a billion percent innocent.

Her son Camron was a career military jet fighter pilot and now flies for the Vermont National Guard. When he made his plea for his mother, IMO the fury in his eyes was striking. He’s helpless here and he’s accustomed to dangerous situations in which he has control, but he cannot do anything here other than beg.

My private wish, although I know it cannot be done with a military jet, is for him to get permission to fly his jet all over the area to aid in the search for his mother.

Savannah once did a segment on Today where she went to Vermont and he had permission to fly her around, very much more challenging than sitting on a commercial plane.

Again I know you can’t take a military jet for private reasons, but that is my secret wish.

JMO

https://www.today.com/video/savannah-and-her-brother-take-flight-in-an-f-16-44510787680

Very sweet idea!

JMO