AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Friday Fan]

Some things that are noticeable about the face of the suspect from a video still image:
- The distance between the eyes (intercanthal distance - ICD) appears slightly wider than normal. This distance between the inner 'corners' of the eye in an adult is normally 28-35mm. If wider, its called telecanthus or hypertelorism depending on the etiology. A well known example of this is Jackie Kennedy who had hypertelorism (photo attached).
- Their eyebrows don't end where we would expect them to, which is normally in line with the inner corner of the eyes (unless the eyebrow extends across to the other side, i.e. a unibrow). So either they have a unibrow or they are wearing another mask or beanie/swimming cap/skull cap under the outer balacava (looks like this one maybe from walmart A knitted mask 3 Hole Ski Mask Winter Warmer Full Face Balaclava Outdoor Sports Thermal Cap for Men Women - Walmart.com).
- They appear to have what is called a positive canthal tilt meaning that the outer corner of the eye is angled upward relative to the inner corner of the eye (which is hard to see for sure), but definitely above the center of the pupil. Reference image below.
- Lastly, they do not appear to have excess upper eyelid skin as we would see with an individual in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. This is evident by the lighter appearing crease that is visible above the lash line on the right side of the image (left side of the person's face). This indicates that they are likely younger (20s, 30's, maybe 40's). Men generally start to exhibit extra upper eyelid skin in their 40's and 50's that gets worse with age and will obscure the lash line. But here we can see the entire lash line all the way across the eyelid and some eyelid skin above it.

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His face is so smooshed in by the mask, that he barely appears to have a nose!

 

[submarine7]

I'm leery of thinking that any data retrieved from Nancy's cameras display multiple dates and events considering she has no subscription. Anybody an expert?

 

[SMK777]

I also heard this. But he seems to run woth things too quickly, IMO. Just a while ago he heard there was FBI at the neighbors house and expressed it verbally on his live stream. He went down there to check it out right away and proved it was just plumbers. But he is definitely verbalizing a lot before finding out of its true.

Which is why he isn't a trusted source like Brian Entin is.

 

[BellaToothless]

Totally a possibility, but the intruder(s) spent a fair amount of forethought putting together an ensemble that was tucked in, potentially multi-layered, removed cameras, brought a full backpack containing something bulky/puffy (took up the entire space and probably and fairly lightweight because it seems to stay put as the perp bends over -- if it was heavy, I would expect it to fall to one side more). Gems are not that big unless they are geodes. The blood trail seems to end at the front walkway so that insinuates that a car or vehicle of some kind was possibly backed up to the walkway. Just seems odd that such a seemingly planned event would wind up being them breaking into the wrong house. Whoops, what a big faux pas that would be. And then happenstancing onto NG alone (a female, whereas the gem expert is male) in the middle of night and deciding to remove her from the home. Wouldn't the just bolt from the house and leave NG there in whatever state if they were like oh shoot, wrong house, no gems here!? I think early on it was mentioned nothing was stolen, besides NG. Plus, I can't imagine this gem expert has prize gems just sitting on the coffee table like a paper weight. They'd probably be in a safe if there at all. Just because one studies something, doesn't mean they keep that thing in their house either. Just seems less likely of a scenario to me. The lantana man does seem to amble around and improvise with yard vegetation, but that doesn't mean that the event was not carefully planned.

Excellent observation about the movement of the backpack (or lack of movement) IMO

 

[VicBlazey]

DBM - incorrect link

 

[stmichael]

@Mistermagoo Yes, I watched that video. That's not a source on 40 people being tracked by holster purchases. The LGS owner simply said they came with a three page list of approx. 40 names and asked him to check them against gun purchases from the past year. And it does not mean 40 suspects as Nanos clarified the other day. Many speculated only a few names are actually relevant POIs, and the rest are random baselines as with a suspect pool line-up.

It is my understanding that it has been said that the 40 pics of people were from 40 different people that purchased the holster recently at local stores.

There is no source for the list being based on holster purchases, which how would they know since there are many holsters exactly like that sold online and in thrift shops for decades. The Walmart holster is just a guess and we don't know if they traced those purchases, that's what I was asking a source for. What they are asking the gun store owner was to see if the suspect pool list purchased a gun, which is a long-shot. Back-tracing an indistinguishable common revolver holster that's been around and sold for decades will be much harder and they simply do not know if that was the Walmart brand some speculated (like I said I posted the same exact holster sold by another brand online at the popular MidwayUSA).

 

[mzufall]

Which is why he isn't a trusted source like Brian Entin is.

Agreed! Brian Entin is definitely the most reliable source to go by, judging by every case I have followed that he has been involved with! Truly a caring, genuine person, IMO!

 

[MesquiteO21]

Did you already discuss the book that SG released in feb24 where she talks about a kidnapping game her aunt used to play with her and her sister?

this is what has swung me back to thinking it could be some deranged SG stalker. but i don't know.

moo

 

[ChiaPet]

TMZ did confirm they got another note and they'll be going live soon on X to talk about it. https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1qJVmQQwWlAGB

 

[diggndeeperstill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024170890162745697

 

[Bluewing3102]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024170890162745697

didn't they just say they weren't gonna announce these anymore?

 

[wibbleflea]

didn't they just say they weren't gonna announce these anymore?

They just can't stop themselves.

 

[LRinCA]

So this was posted to TMZ about 25 mins ago.. although the link itself alludes to the third letter so I'm not sure what to think?! TMZ Receives Third Email in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping, Demanding Higher Reward

It's dated February 13, 2026.

 

[SRWCF]

So this was posted to TMZ about 25 mins ago.. although the link itself alludes to the third letter so I'm not sure what to think?! TMZ Receives Third Email in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping, Demanding Higher Reward

Published February 13th and updated February 13th.

 

[SlimPickens]

It's odd that if he appears in Jan 11 surveillance footage, it makes him seem more like an habitual prowler/robber in the area than someone specifically targeting NG on February 1.

I view it as the opposite (stalker/casing a specific target) since he ultimately did what he did and to whom he did.

JMO.

 

[Leilei]

didn't they just say they weren't gonna announce these anymore?

They sure did.
Are we shocked?

IMO.

 

[Napoli]

Yeah, that was discussed here in the first few days/first week of the case IIRC, when talk of the book was first going round online. Personally, I think it’s completely unrelated to NG’s disappearance.

JMO

Unless, of course, my obsessed, love sick stalker is the true perp! He would have read that book! Kidnapping NG would be part of playing the game SG and her sister and friends played on the mom, in reverse..JMO

 

[penguinface]

@Mistermagoo Yes, I watched that video. That's not a source on 40 people being tracked by holster purchases. The LGS owner simply said they came with a three page list of approx. 40 names and asked him to check them against gun purchases from the past year. And it does not mean 40 suspects as Nanos clarified the other day. Many speculated only a few names are actually relevant POIs, and the rest are random baselines as with a suspect pool line-up.



There is no source for the list being based on holster purchases, which how would they know since there are many holsters exactly like that sold online and in thrift shops for decades. The Walmart holster is just a guess and we don't know if they traced those purchases, that's what I was asking a source for. What they are asking the gun store owner was to see if the suspect pool list purchased a gun, which is a long-shot. Back-tracing an indistinguishable common revolver holster that's been around and sold for decades will be much harder and they simply do not know if that was the Walmart brand some speculated (like I said I posted the same exact holster sold by another brand online at the popular MidwayUSA).

If you mean the bearded gun shop guy in the video interview, he doesn’t say 40 names, he says three sheets with six to eight names and photos on each, so somewhere between 18 and 24.

JMO

 

[VicBlazey]

It's dated February 13, 2026.

That's because I've obviously posted the wrong link But I see others have posted the correct one so will delete mine!

 

[SRWCF]

didn't they just say they weren't gonna announce these anymore?

Lordy. This is bordering on the ridiculous now.