AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Wishbone]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024170890162745697

If this guy keeps sending notes maybe LE will eventually get a location for him.JMOO

 

[stmichael]

I’d read/heard the 40 names claim a good few hours before the interview was posted. Ithink maybe each gun shop didn’t get shown all 40, but a different selection of about 20, each including the one or two people they’re actually looking for.

JMO

Ok thanks. It's very possible these two things got conflated. Some have been linking the gun shop owner video as the source for the "40 names" but as you see in the video he did not say that at all.

Nanos was asked about the "40" the other day and said that's not the amount of suspects, so in either case they may be doing lists of suspect pools with a few POIs and fillers.

This case is so fast moving that there is a lot of sloppy reporting. I've still seen "experts" and articles recently refer to NG's "Ring" doorbell camera when it was established that it was Nest and Google servers.

 

[Skigh]

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Not sure what changed?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024105367161213217

Maybe this was said deliberately . I really cannot believe that the FBI are not directly involved in what is and what isn't broadcast about the ransom notes received.

 

[aamillaa]

The sheriff said it.

Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026 - MEDIA, MAPS, TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION*' Nancy Guthrie, 84, missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026 - MEDIA, MAPS, TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION*

I find the timeline of this weird. Like surely the neighbor wouldn’t have called much earlier than AG? I’m not understanding a window where APS would’ve shown up and left a card. Bc it seems like LE would’ve already been on the scene, so wouldn’t APS have just checked in with LE? Why leave the card?

The only way this makes sense to me is if APS was there before cops were called. Bc even if they somehow would’ve arrived before LE, AG would’ve been there. Very tight window assuming the card was left bc no one else was at the house. MOO

 

[Chainspell]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024170890162745697

Watching the stream, TMZ acted real coy about the ransom note and the person at the 'desk' acted like he didn't know what was going on. Could be intentional (to rile up the ransom note writer), or just clickbait. JMO.

Stream is live, so I can't directly link any specific points.

 

[SRWCF]

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Maybe this was said deliberately . I really cannot believe that the FBI are not directly involved in what is and what isn't broadcast about the ransom notes received.

Sean says "alleged" ransom letters. Is he starting to doubt TMZ's credibility???

 

[SMK777]

I find the timeline of this weird. Like surely the neighbor wouldn’t have called much earlier than AG? I’m not understanding a window where APS would’ve shown up and left a card. Bc it seems like LE would’ve already been on the scene, so wouldn’t APS have just checked in with LE? Why leave the card?

The only way this makes sense to me is if APS was there before cops were called. Bc even if they somehow would’ve arrived before LE, AG would’ve been there. Very tight window assuming the card was left bc no one else was at the house. MOO

I believe the Sheriff said the neighbor called APS after NG was already missing, but don't know if that makes sense.

 

[Gunther Toody]

I feel like there were no organized ground searches in Tucson where the public was involved because the sheriff came out immediately and adamantly stated that this was an obvious abduction and not a case of an elderly woman wandering off. I think that statement alone pretty much put the kibosh on anyone from the public wanting to organize one of those grid type searches you often see take place in the case of a missing person.

What this did was divert resources away from finding Guthrie. The priority became identifying the offender, resources shifted toward DNA recovery, SAR became secondary unless new evidence would have forced it, which I do not believe happened.

 

[SMK777]

Sean says "alleged" ransom letters. Is he starting to doubt TMZ's credibility???

It does make you wonder.

 

[penguinface]

I find the timeline of this weird. Like surely the neighbor wouldn’t have called much earlier than AG? I’m not understanding a window where APS would’ve shown up and left a card. Bc it seems like LE would’ve already been on the scene, so wouldn’t APS have just checked in with LE? Why leave the card?

The only way this makes sense to me is if APS was there before cops were called. Bc even if they somehow would’ve arrived before LE, AG would’ve been there. Very tight window assuming the card was left bc no one else was at the house. MOO

JMO but I’m thinking the card was left on the Monday, morning to early afternoon.

 

[Van Helsing]

Agree. Could be an airsoft due to the purported flood lights being damaged (shot them out?). Looks weird enough from the images that it could also be a stun gun of some sort.

JMO.

It would be nice to know when and how the flood lights were damaged. During the roofing work is likely, by a ladder or discarded roofing materials. MOO.

 

[Friday Fan]

It is curious that the gun show owner pointed out that they were "unusual names." That likely means they were not Hispanic names, which are very common in the U.S., and even more common in Arizona. JMO.

I have no idea why the sheriff is going after "unusual names", unless it's easier to research people with "unusual" names.

To pass the background check, the buyer must be a either a US citizen or legal permanent resident and must possess a valid photo ID

Firearms Checks (NICS) | Federal Bureau of Investigation

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) conducts background checks on people who want to own a firearm or explosive, as required by law.

www.fbi.gov

 

[wibbleflea]

No-Backpack man is not casting a shadow from the moonlight before he steps under the cover of the the porch (in the other videos, his shadow is obvious)

Speculation, following your excellent analysis: is there any chance that the shadow of the perp in the better footage comes from next door's Ring floodlight camera, and not moonlight? I don't have a good idea of the next door house's location relative to NG's house, but there's a previously posted three-minute video on X here from Mac Colson (CBS 5, etc.) showing LE fiddling with that floodlight camera yesterday. It looked like the investigators were may have been attempting to adjust the direction of the camera and light, among other things. Or perhaps just examine its direction.

I agree that all the footage and stills are of the same person.

 

[Skigh]

Sean says "alleged" ransom letters. Is he starting to doubt TMZ's credibility???

Could be alleged because letters might be being sent ,but the letters are from a hoaxer not the someone involved with the kidnap.

 

[CandyKiss]

DBM

 

[LRinCA]

It would be nice to know when and how the flood lights were damaged. During the roofing work is likely, by a ladder or discarded roofing materials. MOO.

Makes me wonder if the roofers have all been cleared.

JMO/MOO

 

[AuntTricia]

If the abductor arrived by vehicle, wouldn't someone on NG's street would have ring camera footage? Maybe it didn't pick up the license plate number but maybe they have a make, model and color? How long was it before LE released the info about the white Hyundai Elantra in the BK case?

 

[penguinface]

Sean says "alleged" ransom letters. Is he starting to doubt TMZ's credibility???

I think it’s used more as a legal “CYA”, as “alleged” and “allegedly” often are by the media.

JMO

 

[Chainspell]

New TMZ video uploaded. Talking about possibilities of Nancy in Mexico (LE is treating it as a potential lead allegedly), note demanding a different type of crypto from bitcoin, refers to media as being a 'go-between'. New crypto account it sounds like, mentions FBI at the gun shops (sounds like a dead end according to their sources).

 

[SRWCF]

What this did was divert resources away from finding Guthrie. The priority became identifying the offender, resources shifted toward DNA recovery, SAR became secondary unless new evidence would have forced it, which I do not believe happened.

You are probably right about that. I think a ground search by the public in the early days certainly wouldn't have hurt the investigation. I mean, in situations such as these, people really, really want to help and this would have been a good way to allow that to happen.

As a sidenote, I had a dream the other night that they found NG alive and she was being hidden in the desert in an underground tunnel / cave. This means I'm either a visionary, or I'm consuming too much social media on this case!