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Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff pleads with suspect to ‘just let her go,’ insists case not cold​

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has made a plea to the suspect in Nancy Guthrie's disappearance, urging the individual to "just let her go."


JMO

Ugh. It's so devastating to know that Nancy IS out there somewhere, even if she's no longer alive. Whatever state she's in right now, I hope she's not suffering and she feels the prayers and support pouring in from all over. What evil people to do this to an elderly woman and her family, seemingly with no end in sight.

This case seems too crazy to sleuth these days. Hope the PCSD and FBI (and SG's PI) have lots of coffee.

MOO
 
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Sheriff believes NG is alive because there's no proof of death. Who is going to send a photo of a deceased person to LE? And, why would they?
I mean I guess that is his way of saying that, absent definitive proof he will keep pursuing this with the ultimate objective of finding her alive vs no longer keeping that as a consideration. I don't like either groups of LE and I think he has not done a great job here, but I will say if I were NG's family I'd be relieved that they are still considering that direction, on the off chance she is still alive and can be rescued. MO
 
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The silence is deafening, but not necessarily a bad thing. Sure, it can be frustrating for us and sometimes it means a case is growing cold, but I feel like LE's recent end to regular pressers and decreasing lack of public appeals, coupled with SG's general silence and measured (occasional) communications, speak volumes here. I think it might just mean they probably know who did this, or have a really good idea, and are just putting the pieces together.

Hope so anyway.

JMO.
 
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I guess I can't hold it against LE for still offering/conducting them, but polygraphs (personally) mean nothing to me, more or less. I know LE swears they use them to "help weed everyone out", but also it's pretty well-established that they're borderline meaningless, which is why they're not allowed as evidence in anything that counts for anything.

So. If they're giving people polygraphs, good for them, I guess. I hope it gives them data they can use. To me this just means they don't know for sure who did this and are hoping to stress someone out enough to make a mistake (totally reasonable and fair; also has NOTHING to do with whether or not polygraphs work as claimed).
Are they asking people to submit to a polygraph as a test to see if they will? Even if someone were innocent yet were extremely distraught which is understandable it could impact the results. IMO this could potentially derail an investigation moving in the right direction. I’m curious if this is a Pima county request only or FBI as well.
 
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I mean I guess that is his way of saying that, absent definitive proof he will keep pursuing this with the ultimate objective of finding her alive vs no longer keeping that as a consideration. I don't like either groups of LE and I think he has not done a great job here, but I will say if I were NG's family I'd be relieved that they are still considering that direction, on the off chance she is still alive and can be rescued. MO
Yeah, I think the Sheriff's in a bit of a no-win here. Realistically, Nancy probably isn't alive. He knows that, the FBI knows that and the bulk of the people following the case know that. However if he says so, he looks like an insensitive jerk who's giving up. Better to be positive and ensure the family and public they're still investigating full steam.
 
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My trust in the Daily Mail has tanked over the duration of this case, but "Exclusive":
She's spent the last two weeks filling in for close pal Savannah Guthrie after making an emotional return to the Today Show sofa and now the Daily Mail has learned that Hoda Kotb is hoping to make it permanent.

Kotb, 61, returned to the breakfast TV juggernaut after 54-year-old Guthrie's mom Nancy mysteriously vanished from her Tucson home two weeks ago.

Since then, Guthrie has been holed up in a desert mega-mansion with her siblings waiting out the investigation while the veteran anchor has taken her place on the hotseat.

Now Kotb has made it clear to Today Show bosses that she wants to return full time, despite quitting the show last year to spend more time with her two adopted daughters.

'This isn't just about feelings - it's about protecting the franchise,' an NBC insider exclusively told the Daily Mail.

'Morning TV is a multimillion-dollar machine, and they need stability. Right now, that stability is Hoda.'
 
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Hmmm. Interesting. Is that why SG's hubby flew to AZ yesterday?
Perhaps the FBI has asked each child and their spouses to submit to a polygraph. Dang!
 
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My trust in the Daily Mail has tanked over the duration of this case, but "Exclusive":
She's spent the last two weeks filling in for close pal Savannah Guthrie after making an emotional return to the Today Show sofa and now the Daily Mail has learned that Hoda Kotb is hoping to make it permanent.

Kotb, 61, returned to the breakfast TV juggernaut after 54-year-old Guthrie's mom Nancy mysteriously vanished from her Tucson home two weeks ago.

Since then, Guthrie has been holed up in a desert mega-mansion with her siblings waiting out the investigation while the veteran anchor has taken her place on the hotseat.

Now Kotb has made it clear to Today Show bosses that she wants to return full time, despite quitting the show last year to spend more time with her two adopted daughters.

'This isn't just about feelings - it's about protecting the franchise,' an NBC insider exclusively told the Daily Mail.

'Morning TV is a multimillion-dollar machine, and they need stability. Right now, that stability is Hoda.'
They’re just stirring the pot. Daily mail is like nails on a chalkboard atm
 
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Perhaps the FBI has asked each child and their spouses to submit to a polygraph. Dang!
Why would the sheriff publicly clear them and then do a lie detector test?
 
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Ok. I took a copy of the photo and played with the light levels sharpness contrast and definition. There is a pattern on the jacket! I'm confident that's a different jacket than lantana guy. It looks like swirls or the way light plays off of rip stop nylon. View attachment 646386
It's pitch black in the background. I think there is a chance this is from a different time or date or it's heavily altered before release. It was suppose to be a full moon, where is that moonlight?
 
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My trust in the Daily Mail has tanked over the duration of this case, but "Exclusive":
She's spent the last two weeks filling in for close pal Savannah Guthrie after making an emotional return to the Today Show sofa and now the Daily Mail has learned that Hoda Kotb is hoping to make it permanent.

Kotb, 61, returned to the breakfast TV juggernaut after 54-year-old Guthrie's mom Nancy mysteriously vanished from her Tucson home two weeks ago.

Since then, Guthrie has been holed up in a desert mega-mansion with her siblings waiting out the investigation while the veteran anchor has taken her place on the hotseat.

Now Kotb has made it clear to Today Show bosses that she wants to return full time, despite quitting the show last year to spend more time with her two adopted daughters.

'This isn't just about feelings - it's about protecting the franchise,' an NBC insider exclusively told the Daily Mail.

'Morning TV is a multimillion-dollar machine, and they need stability. Right now, that stability is Hoda.'
So first, like you said it's the Daily Mail.

HK is not going to come back and replace SG if SG wants to return. No way no how. NBC would not allow that to happen and there is no way HK would do that to SG. Loyal Today show fans like me as well as a lot of other people would have a fit! If this whole situation with NG wasn't so sad I would laugh at the DM's "Exclusive".

HK and SG were a great team at Today and I was sad to see HK go. Maybe she will come back but believe me, it won't be to replace SG unless she asks to be replaced. Plenty of other roles HK could take on the show.
 
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I have the same doorbell camera and they have a backup battery inside just in case power goes out.

Leaving with her out the front door makes the most sense, as it’s the easiest route, especially with potentially carrying someone. What’s questionable is why access and remove the front door camera from outside the home? If you already subdued her and accessed the home from the back; why not just open the front door from inside her house and put something over the camera to break it off? It would’ve completely prevented him from being seen at all from that camera.

What you said about simply removing the door camera from inside the home is one reason of many that I had pause when people were adamant of family involvement.
The other was the man looking at the side of Nancy's porch for something to help obscure and/or remove the camera.
Another thing is Nancy's door, her neighbor said the man appeared to her to not be familiar with that type of secure screen door.
Family and friends would already know about those things.

Sorry for the tangent...
I don't think the man initially planned on removing that door camera because I don't think he thought it would be working.
Now this is working on the data that the camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m. and he is seen at 2:12 a.m.
I think he might have already been inside and he was coming around to the front door to have someone open the front door for him to bring Nancy out.
Was he a lone wolf and was Nancy still conscious and alert albeit bleeding and he told her to come to the front door so he could bring her out to a waiting vehicle?
Or was it an acomplice of his who was already inside ready to help bring Nancy out?

The point being - he knew he had to remove that door camera the moment he walked up to her door and noticed it was still active. Active more than likely due to it being battery operated if disconnected or the power being cut - like yours.
 
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Why would the sheriff publicly clear them and then do a lie detector test?
Split between the sheriff and the FBI? I have no idea...
 
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So first, like you said it's the Daily Mail.

HK is not going to come back and replace SG if SG wants to return. No way no how. NBC would not allow that to happen and there is no way HK would do that to SG. Loyal Today show fans like me as well as a lot of other people would have a fit! If this whole situation with NG wasn't so sad I would laugh at the DM's "Exclusive".

HK and SG were a great team at Today and I was sad to see HK go. Maybe she will come back but believe me, it won't be to replace SG unless she asks to be replaced. Plenty of other roles HK could take on the s

So first, like you said it's the Daily Mail.

HK is not going to come back and replace SG if SG wants to return. No way no how. NBC would not allow that to happen and there is no way HK would do that to SG. Loyal Today show fans like me as well as a lot of other people would have a fit! If this whole situation with NG wasn't so sad I would laugh at the DM's "Exclusive".

HK and SG were a great team at Today and I was sad to see HK go. Maybe she will come back but believe me, it won't be to replace SG unless she asks to be replaced. Plenty of other roles HK could take on the show.
Daily mail is a site that pays for information, but doesn't necessarily resource the true value of the information.
 
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Would anyone be willing to tell me when this image was released and if LE said anything about it?

I could search through hundreds of pages or some nice person could fill me in. Please. 😘

IMG_0128.webp
 

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