AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SRWCF]

Back to that calling card from Adult Protective Services. How the heck did ANYONE get near that house undetected and get to the front door with all the media and cops etc crawling all over the place? When was it placed there , if anyone knows? jmo

Good question. I have recent experience dealing directly with Arizona APS (in Yuma, tho, which is 240 miles away from Tucson) and I can 100% guarantee that they do not work weekends. My mom's caseworker is very, VERY good and extremely responsive.[\OFFTOPIC]

 

[Forest_Wood]

Very puzzling. I'm confident that LE called the woman whose name was on the card to get further information. JMO

I'm just wondering with all these comments, what is the implication of this card having being left? The sheriff has addressed it which was posted up above. What makes it such an issue?

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

As a small experiment, I tried to roughly estimate the time of this video using shadow length. Huge caveat here that this is very, very rough.

I started with this frame.

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Then I made a very basic ratio of height (foot to top of head) and shadow length (top of head to end of head shadow).

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The ratio: 20 blocks / 33 blocks = 0.6

Then, using mooncalc,com, I set the date to Feb 1 and placed the location at Nancy's home.

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With a object to shadow ratio of 0.6, I adjusted the time slider until the shadow length grew to 1.05 meters (1.75 meters x 0.6).

The corresponding time is approximately 02:20.

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So, likely that just means my methodology is sloppy if the clip is from 02:12, but it's fairly close. Closer to 02:12 that 01:47, anyway.

Is there anything to be learned from this? No. lol

Brilliant analysis. The timing of all of this matters, I think, and after their initial presser with the times, LE hasn't detailed too much to the public about their further thoughts of the times of everything.

If the suspeccts were really in the house for 41 minutes, that seems like quite a bit of time. Curious what they were doing . . .

JMHO

 

[Love Never Fails]

Wouldn't a SG reward bring forth the culprits, if we think NG is being held for ransom?

I have asked that all along. It’s her mom and her decision, regardless of what FBI says.

 

[Kori17]

Wondering where these reporters go to the restroom!

OUCH

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Twice I've looked at that picture and twice it made me think of camo. The other picture with the backpack doesn't seem like it has a pattern. Were there two people out front? One with backpack and one without?

Have also wondered the same thing. MOO

 

[Love Never Fails]

I'm just wondering with all these comments, what is the implication of this card having being left? The sheriff has addressed it which was posted up above. What makes it such an issue?

I was under the impression someone left it before the kidnapping because someone said Nancy never used the front door due to the steps out front.

 

[submarine7]

Wouldn't a SG reward bring forth the culprits, if we think NG is being held for ransom?

Especially since it's been as low as $68k. I believe as of today, TMZ says it's nearly 6 million. I've been asking that same question, but we can only speculate about what that means.

 

[aafromaa]

Back to that calling card from Adult Protective Services. How the heck did ANYONE get near that house undetected and get to the front door with all the media and cops etc crawling all over the place? When was it placed there , if anyone knows? jmo

We don’t actually know when it was placed there. We only know the sheriff said the neighbors called APS the same day that NG was reported missing by the family and that it was there when BE did his video walk up to the front door which I believe was on the 3rd.

Having said that, if the sheriff is correct about when the call was placed, it is possible that APS arrived while LE was there and got permission from LE to put the card there or even asked a LE officer to place it there for them. It is also possible that APS put it there after LE released the house to the family but before BE did his vid. And it is also possible that APS arrived before the family did when they were called about NG missing the remote church service and called 911.

 

[Bluewing3102]

Wouldn't a SG reward bring forth the culprits, if we think NG is being held for ransom?

I think it's smart for SG not to put out a reward. Even if the ransom isn't real- they are being extorted for money by some form of criminal. Putting out a reward of their own money shows they are willing to pay and only encourages people like the ransom author to continue their antics.

The culprits who did this know they can't just turn themselves in and walk away with FBI reward money.
IMO

 

[mzufall]

How long has Nancy Guthrie been missing? See updated timeline of case

The 'Today' host's mother remains missing amid a desperate search.

www.usatoday.com

LE is law enforcement, which includes the Sheriff. But consistently reported is that it was NG’s other daughter, AP who reported her mother missing after NG’s friend called her out of concern because she hadn’t shown up to listen to the church service as planned. I have not seen any indication of a neighbour checking up on NG and noticing she wasn’t home.
JMO

How long has Nancy Guthrie been missing? See updated timeline of case

The 'Today' host's mother remains missing amid a desperate search.

www.usatoday.com

“That morning, Guthrie failed to show up at a friend's house to watch a church service online, as she routinely did, so they called her daughter, Annie, who lives nearby, a source close to the family told NBC News.

At 11:56 a.m., the family arrived to check on her, calling 911 at 12:03 to report her missing. Patrol cars arrived at 12:15 p.m. and the search for Guthrie begins.”

I can't seem to find where I read this... But from what I understood, SG recorded the Sunday morning services and NG and her friends would gather together and watch them at the friends house. When NG didn't show up, the friend (possibly neighbor, idk) called AG to check on her mom. Im assuming AG was called because she lives nearest to her mom. IMOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

OUCH

Watch for the cacti !

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Sheriff says it was put there on the day she was reported missing

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023909355750650040

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And it's totally bizarre that the woman from Adult Protective Services was allowed to walk up to the house - possibly over the drops of blood - and leave her card on the door.

JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

I think it's weird too. APS showing up at the request of LE or AG is one thing, but a neighbor calling feels like an overstep, especially considering police were already involved.

We don't know for sure, but I tend to think APS came by because of the call that NG was missing. Still, some elderly are abused. Governments wouldn't need APS departments if that didn't happen. Personally, I think it should be a capital crime.

 

[warp3dwing]

Brilliant analysis. The timing of all of this matters, I think, and after their initial presser with the times, LE hasn't detailed too much to the public about their further thoughts of the times of everything.

If the suspeccts were really in the house for 41 minutes, that seems like quite a bit of time. Curious what they were doing . . .

JMHO

Also wondering if perhaps the backpackless image was a thumbnail found in the Nest cache for the 02:12 registered humanoid sighting, and the video clips we've seen come from slightly later; e.g., 02:20-ish?

It's more likely that my math is slightly off because of optical errors, and that the video clips do come from 02:12, but ya never know.

 

[JellyMuffin]

Internet User Searched for Map of Nancy Guthrie’s Home Before Disappearance

An internet search was conducted for Nancy Guthrie’s home in the weeks leading up to her reported abduction. Citing Google Trends data, Fox News reported that someone in Arizona searched for Guthrie’s address between June 21 and 28, 2025. The address was searched again on January 11. According...

www.crimeonline.com

Hi! I was wondering if anybody knows if it’s possible for internet searches to be traced (like to an IP address or to a certain area)? I know the article says they might not be related, but it’s good to know someone thought to see if anybody was googling her before this happened.

 

[1.618]

As a small experiment, I tried to roughly estimate the time of this video using shadow length. Huge caveat here that this is very, very rough.

I started with this frame.

View attachment 646451

Then I made a very basic ratio of height (foot to top of head) and shadow length (top of head to end of head shadow).

View attachment 646452

The ratio: 20 blocks / 33 blocks = 0.6

Then, using mooncalc,com, I set the date to Feb 1 and placed the location at Nancy's home.

View attachment 646453

With a object to shadow ratio of 0.6, I adjusted the time slider until the shadow length grew to 1.05 meters (1.75 meters x 0.6).

The corresponding time is approximately 02:20.

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So, likely that just means my methodology is sloppy if the clip is from 02:12, but it's fairly close. Closer to 02:12 that 01:47, anyway.

Is there anything to be learned from this? No. lol

The jacket looks like it has a hood from the back. Also, I faintly see what looks like a watch (apple watch?) on the right wrist in the sleeve.

 

[RedHaus]

If the suspeccts were really in the house for 41 minutes, that seems like quite a bit of time. Curious what they were doing . . .

RSBM
I for one cannot let my imagination connect the 41--minute data point with the possible-perp-biological-material-found data point.

 

[MesquiteO21]

TMZ's promoting itself in the midst of a horrific situation. I find it revolting.

They’re treating the ransom letters like just another one of their gossip stories. The worst, most traumatic thing for NG and her family and it’s fodder for them. Honestly despicable.

moo

 

[shonyakay]

Articles about the gun store visit specifically say they asked the owner to run for purchases of firearms in the past year. Holsters don't have serials and are not on FFL bound books, and a purchase order search would not likely list "holster" but "other" or "misc".

Gun store owner says FBI asked him to check firearm sales against list of names, pics in Guthrie case

FBI agent visited Arizona gun store with photos and names to check purchases during Nancy Guthrie missing person investigation, local store owner claims.

www.foxnews.com

I think what we both were stating got lost in translation.

Of course they were looking to see if any of those people that the gun shop employee was shown had bought a gun there.

I was responding to your statement...

"There is no source for the list being based on holster purchases"

I was trying to point out that those certain people were being shown at the gun store because they had purchased a holster like that.

Understandably, I think you took that to mean I was implying the holster was bought at the gun store but that is not what I meant.

I was simply pointing out that those people were being shown based on having bought a similar holster like the man had in the video.

My apologies for any confusion on my end.


LE looked into all of the places in the area that sold a similar holster i.e. Walmart etc. and that is the list they compiled.